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#15 : August 01, 2008, 07:20:44 AM

Good riddance

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#16 : August 01, 2008, 01:50:29 PM

I've heard Bush supporters still existed... I just never believed it until now. �That must be a HUGE rock.
thats because you live Atlanta

So?  What's that supposed to mean? 

I find it VERY hard to believe anyone still supports Bush - unless you're just completely clueless to the world around you. 


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#17 : August 01, 2008, 01:49:01 PM

and my response to Mr. Bush's resignation speech:

Mr. Bush, you ran for President as a Conservative Republican, but in your terms as PotUS the National Debt has risen from $5.7 trillion to $9.5 trillion, and the Federal Deficit had nearly tripled.  What happened to your pledge of "less government"?  What happened to your promise of "fiscal rationality", a term you invented? What happened to less government and support for the small businessman?  yes, you stood on a podium and told the American people you would bring about more opportunities for small business but all we have seen is your support for Big oil and Walmart/massive business.  

You stood on that podium and told us about Alternative Energy plans for fuel cell tech, electric cars, etc, but all we have seen is incentives and support for Haliburton and other "old tech" big oil companies.

You were caught unawares in the 9/11 events, as were we all, but you promised us resolve, you promised us retribution, but instead we got a half a$$ed response to the true terror hotbed, Afghanistan.  And instead of justice we got a war of vendetta that only you had a issue with.  The one mid-east country most watched and most cornered, that certainly could not have had any part of the events of 9/11, is the one you choose to make an example out of???  That is kind of like the logic of beating your neighbors kid for something some other kid did.

And throughout this international clusterfilck you created, you somehow managed to totally ignore what was going on in your own backyard.

After brilliant and faithful service for nearly 2 decades, your Fed Reserve Chairman, after getting married and getting hooked on viagra and cialis, goes bonkers and starts making irrational decisions, and you ignore it.

Then your Attorney General gets involved in a nasty hiring faux pax and he gets Alzhiemers and can't rememner his own birthday, and you ignore it.

Your Sec of Defense tells the whole world (including our troops) that armor is unimportant, "you go to war with the army you have got".  in other words "dying soldiers, suck it up, I don't care." And you ignored it.

Mr. President, you have treated this job like some chore your daddy gave you, and you are suprised we, the American People, are upset with you!

Who the hell did you think you worked for, Haliburton?  Yes, we are upset.  You have broken every promise, and made us a laughing stock in the worlds eyes, what do you expect?  You have collected every paycheck, but you have yet to finish one single job you promised to complete.

Now you quit before the job is done, and try to put the blame on us.  Mr. President, keep your blame because WE THE PEOPLE were not given any power or authority to change anything.  We gave all of that to you, and you have failed us utterly.  Please do quit for it will save us the trouble of firing you.

I wish you the best in your future endeavors, but do not use us, the American People, as references for future jobs because your performance was not acceptable.

Wow.  This is the best post I've read in a LONG LONG time.  Well done.  And thank you. 

Especially the part about being "conservative" and his hypocrisy about small & big businesses.  You couldn't be more right.  He's done nothing for the average guy.  And Afghanistan.  Wow.  All of it is DEAD on.  Let's just end the thread here. 

I don't see how anyone can still support that man.  He's made a fool of us ALL.

12th buc... any response to Galt's post?  There shouldn't be.


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#18 : August 01, 2008, 01:52:10 PM

I find it VERY hard to believe anyone still supports Bush - unless you're just completely clueless to the world around you.

Well large numbers supported him a few years ago, his rating was very high and everyone was in favor of invading Iraq..............I wonder why people thought that way ^^^^^


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#19 : August 01, 2008, 01:54:03 PM

and my response to Mr. Bush's resignation speech:

Mr. Bush, you ran for President as a Conservative Republican, but in your terms as PotUS the National Debt has risen from $5.7 trillion to $9.5 trillion, and the Federal Deficit had nearly tripled. �What happened to your pledge of "less government"? �What happened to your promise of "fiscal rationality", a term you invented? What happened to less government and support for the small businessman? �yes, you stood on a podium and told the American people you would bring about more opportunities for small business but all we have seen is your support for Big oil and Walmart/massive business. �

You stood on that podium and told us about Alternative Energy plans for fuel cell tech, electric cars, etc, but all we have seen is incentives and support for Haliburton and other "old tech" big oil companies.

You were caught unawares in the 9/11 events, as were we all, but you promised us resolve, you promised us retribution, but instead we got a half a$$ed response to the true terror hotbed, Afghanistan. �And instead of justice we got a war of vendetta that only you had a issue with. �The one mid-east country most watched and most cornered, that certainly could not have had any part of the events of 9/11, is the one you choose to make an example out of??? �That is kind of like the logic of beating your neighbors kid for something some other kid did.

And throughout this international clusterfilck you created, you somehow managed to totally ignore what was going on in your own backyard.

After brilliant and faithful service for nearly 2 decades, your Fed Reserve Chairman, after getting married and getting hooked on viagra and cialis, goes bonkers and starts making irrational decisions, and you ignore it.

Then your Attorney General gets involved in a nasty hiring faux pax and he gets Alzhiemers and can't rememner his own birthday, and you ignore it.

Your Sec of Defense tells the whole world (including our troops) that armor is unimportant, "you go to war with the army you have got". �in other words "dying soldiers, suck it up, I don't care." And you ignored it.

Mr. President, you have treated this job like some chore your daddy gave you, and you are suprised we, the American People, are upset with you!

Who the hell did you think you worked for, Haliburton? �Yes, we are upset. �You have broken every promise, and made us a laughing stock in the worlds eyes, what do you expect? �You have collected every paycheck, but you have yet to finish one single job you promised to complete.

Now you quit before the job is done, and try to put the blame on us. �Mr. President, keep your blame because WE THE PEOPLE were not given any power or authority to change anything. �We gave all of that to you, and you have failed us utterly. �Please do quit for it will save us the trouble of firing you.

I wish you the best in your future endeavors, but do not use us, the American People, as references for future jobs because your performance was not acceptable.

Wow.  This is the best post I've read in a LONG LONG time.  Well done.  And thank you.  

Especially the part about being "conservative" and his hypocrisy about small & big businesses.  You couldn't be more right.  He's done nothing for the average guy.  And Afghanistan.  Wow.  All of it is DEAD on.  Let's just end the thread here.  

I don't see how anyone can still support that man.  He's made a fool of us ALL.

12th buc... any response to Galt's post?  There shouldn't be.
there are things i don't support with Bush, but i still think he did better then John Kerry or Al Gore could have done.


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#20 : August 01, 2008, 03:25:40 PM

I only have one: the tax cuts.

Yep tax cuts, mainly for the wealthiest in society and borrowing to fund public spending.......that is something to hang you hat on.

The tax cuts created economic growth and significantly increased government tax receipts.

The tax cuts worked.  It was the out-of-control spending that forced the borrowing, and subsequent recession of the economy.


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#21 : August 01, 2008, 02:02:39 PM

Pelosi as president?

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#22 : August 01, 2008, 02:47:17 PM

there are things i don't support with Bush, but i still think he did better then John Kerry or Al Gore could have done.

What would be something of significance you DO support that he's done?


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#23 : August 01, 2008, 02:59:24 PM

Post turtle is an awesome story as is the Bush speech

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#24 : August 01, 2008, 03:10:57 PM

there are things i don't support with Bush, but i still think he did better then John Kerry or Al Gore could have done.

What would be something of significance you DO support that he's done?

I only have one: the tax cuts.


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#25 : August 01, 2008, 03:14:40 PM

I only have one: the tax cuts.

Yep tax cuts, mainly for the wealthiest in society and borrowing to fund public spending.......that is something to hang you hat on.


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#26 : August 01, 2008, 03:36:34 PM

and my response to Mr. Bush's resignation speech:

Mr. Bush, you ran for President as a Conservative Republican, but in your terms as PotUS the National Debt has risen from $5.7 trillion to $9.5 trillion, and the Federal Deficit had nearly tripled.  What happened to your pledge of "less government"?  What happened to your promise of "fiscal rationality", a term you invented? What happened to less government and support for the small businessman?  yes, you stood on a podium and told the American people you would bring about more opportunities for small business but all we have seen is your support for Big oil and Walmart/massive business. 

You stood on that podium and told us about Alternative Energy plans for fuel cell tech, electric cars, etc, but all we have seen is incentives and support for Haliburton and other "old tech" big oil companies.

You were caught unawares in the 9/11 events, as were we all, but you promised us resolve, you promised us retribution, but instead we got a half a$$ed response to the true terror hotbed, Afghanistan.  And instead of justice we got a war of vendetta that only you had a issue with.  The one mid-east country most watched and most cornered, that certainly could not have had any part of the events of 9/11, is the one you choose to make an example out of???  That is kind of like the logic of beating your neighbors kid for something some other kid did.

And throughout this international clusterfilck you created, you somehow managed to totally ignore what was going on in your own backyard.

After brilliant and faithful service for nearly 2 decades, your Fed Reserve Chairman, after getting married and getting hooked on viagra and cialis, goes bonkers and starts making irrational decisions, and you ignore it.

Then your Attorney General gets involved in a nasty hiring faux pax and he gets Alzhiemers and can't rememner his own birthday, and you ignore it.

Your Sec of Defense tells the whole world (including our troops) that armor is unimportant, "you go to war with the army you have got".  in other words "dying soldiers, suck it up, I don't care." And you ignored it.

Mr. President, you have treated this job like some chore your daddy gave you, and you are suprised we, the American People, are upset with you!

Who the hell did you think you worked for, Haliburton?  Yes, we are upset.  You have broken every promise, and made us a laughing stock in the worlds eyes, what do you expect?  You have collected every paycheck, but you have yet to finish one single job you promised to complete.

Now you quit before the job is done, and try to put the blame on us.  Mr. President, keep your blame because WE THE PEOPLE were not given any power or authority to change anything.  We gave all of that to you, and you have failed us utterly.  Please do quit for it will save us the trouble of firing you.

I wish you the best in your future endeavors, but do not use us, the American People, as references for future jobs because your performance was not acceptable.

What an amazing post you hit everything dead on Galt!

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#27 : August 01, 2008, 03:38:10 PM

I only have one: the tax cuts.

Yep tax cuts, mainly for the wealthiest in society and borrowing to fund public spending.......that is something to hang you hat on.

The tax cuts created economic growth and significantly increased government tax receipts.

The tax cuts worked. It was the out-of-control spending that forced the borrowing, and subsequent recession of the economy.


Nope borrowing created most of the economic growth.  The graph below clearly shows government revenue dropping from 2000-2004, whilst spending has risen consistently.  From 2004 on wards revenues went up, which coincided with the housing boom.

This is a consumer lead economy.  People leveraged their equity, increased borrowing, increased spending and boosted the economy.  Big problem now is a large portion of the population have no more equity to leverage.  Now they are withdrawing 401k money, and using credit cards.  The US economy is fatally flawed right now, we are borrowing to stimulate the economy.  Eventually the creditors will call in those chips and start taking our assets......wait a minute they already have.




Look everyone, those nasty liberal bastards actually had revenues above spending before GW took over.



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#28 : August 01, 2008, 03:43:40 PM

This is a consumer lead economy.

Exactly.  So wouldn't letting the people keep more of their money be a good idea?


Look everyone, those nasty liberal bastards actually had revenues above spending before GW took over.

Yeah, that was brilliant of Al Gore to invent the internet so the economy could boom while he and Bill were in office.  No coincidences there...


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#29 : August 01, 2008, 03:48:43 PM

Exactly. So wouldn't letting the people keep more of their money be a good idea?

Nothing up with that if the economy is sound and spending is under control.  Unfortunately it coincided with dramatic increases in borrowing, and huge amounts of spending on foreign goods.  So instead of helping the economy it has damaged it for many years to come.   We have a turn of a currency, our companies are falling into foreign hands, our work force is under skilled and over paid.  Yep the Bush years have placed us nicely for competing in the new global economy.

Oh and BTW - I am a life long fully paid up conservative.


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