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I agree, offense is more fun to watch than a 3-2 game.I thoroughly enjoyed the Ku-USF game, but I don't think either team is championship caliber. I agree, USC looks to be solid on both sides of the ball...which is why I said I think right now they are the best team. But a lot can change.
Oklahoma has it easy, as they don't get Missouri in reg. season and Texas and Kansas at home. Obviously they are likely to play Missouri in title game, but we'll see.I think Oklahoma is good, but think they are a bit over hyped. We won't know much about them until Oct. 11 when they play TX. Even then, Texas isn't that great IMO. I think UF-USC would be a great matchup, but UF has a tough road to get there. USC I agree should go undefeated, they don't have many tough games and all even remotely tough on at home. They will just need to avoid their usual slip up against a team they should beat by 20.....
Quote from: LFO on September 18, 2008, 11:56:38 PMHey the whole Pac 10 is 0-5 against the Mountain West.....Baylor is better then WazzuBYU is better then fucla... who beat TennesseeTCU is better then StanturdNew Mexico may be better then ArizonaSo ASU probably is the only real upset...
Hey the whole Pac 10 is 0-5 against the Mountain West.....
Quote from: OregonBucFan on September 19, 2008, 08:08:04 PMQuote from: LFO on September 19, 2008, 08:04:39 PMQuote from: OregonBucFan on September 19, 2008, 08:00:12 PMQuote from: LFO on September 19, 2008, 07:50:30 PMQuote from: OregonBucFan on September 19, 2008, 07:46:33 PMQuote from: LFO on September 19, 2008, 07:43:54 PMQuote from: OregonBucFan on September 19, 2008, 07:42:00 PMQuote from: LFO on September 19, 2008, 07:37:31 PMLose/Lose?LOL.ASU is supposed to be a top 3 PAC 10 team. �It's funny they are now relegated to being crappy....well you think its a big win now? I thought the pac-10 sucked? And MAYBE 2 good teams... but now there good like UCLA, oh wait they lost to a mountain west team...Georgia... you win, its expected � � � � � � � you lose... SEC spin, well its a tough road game they need to focus on the only good conference in any sports the SEC. They were just overlooking them. No, I don't think they are very good...but again, that was the point. �They were a favorite to win the conference, or at least compete for 2nd best. �And now you relegate them to being crappy. �I also don't think UGA is the world beater some think they are....they are a good team, but not unbeatable. �I don't really think any team is. �UGA needs to get ahead early, if they struggle early I think ASU has a shot. �ASU is and still is the 3rd best team. And no they were never the favorite to win the conference.... UCLA was I never said ASU was crappy they are probably 25-30 ranked team. I dont put much into the loss to UNLV. But they still have problems on defense and the OL. But year in and year out they tend to get a bit overrated. So, if ASU is the 3rd best PAC 10 team, and UGA is a top 2, at least top 3 SEC team....how is it lose/lose for UGA? If UGA loses on the road to them, why is that bad? Afterall, you say ASU is a top 3 PAC 10 team. Conversely, if they win against a top 3 PAC 10 team on the road, why is that not a big win? Are you suggesting that the Gap between the top of the SEC and top of the PAC 10, sans USC, is that great? You can't have it both ways. what Im saying...Pac-10 isnt very good this yearOk, thanks for clarifying that. and the SEC is overrated. Big12 is just as good.Only team that looks great in the SEC is Florida. And thats the only team thats actually fun to watch. Auburn... isnt and wont be top 10, probably finishes outside the top 25. Alabama... will finish in the 20'sLSU... good but no QB playGeorgia... overratedBig 12? They have Oklahoma. That's it. Nobody else can play the defense to win anything.As for those SEC teams, all are better than Oregon, who you anoint 2nd best PAC 10. If LSU doesn't have QB play, what do you think of Oregon? Roper blows, and now is hurt. Hope that backup is any good....
Quote from: LFO on September 19, 2008, 08:04:39 PMQuote from: OregonBucFan on September 19, 2008, 08:00:12 PMQuote from: LFO on September 19, 2008, 07:50:30 PMQuote from: OregonBucFan on September 19, 2008, 07:46:33 PMQuote from: LFO on September 19, 2008, 07:43:54 PMQuote from: OregonBucFan on September 19, 2008, 07:42:00 PMQuote from: LFO on September 19, 2008, 07:37:31 PMLose/Lose?LOL.ASU is supposed to be a top 3 PAC 10 team. �It's funny they are now relegated to being crappy....well you think its a big win now? I thought the pac-10 sucked? And MAYBE 2 good teams... but now there good like UCLA, oh wait they lost to a mountain west team...Georgia... you win, its expected � � � � � � � you lose... SEC spin, well its a tough road game they need to focus on the only good conference in any sports the SEC. They were just overlooking them. No, I don't think they are very good...but again, that was the point. �They were a favorite to win the conference, or at least compete for 2nd best. �And now you relegate them to being crappy. �I also don't think UGA is the world beater some think they are....they are a good team, but not unbeatable. �I don't really think any team is. �UGA needs to get ahead early, if they struggle early I think ASU has a shot. �ASU is and still is the 3rd best team. And no they were never the favorite to win the conference.... UCLA was I never said ASU was crappy they are probably 25-30 ranked team. I dont put much into the loss to UNLV. But they still have problems on defense and the OL. But year in and year out they tend to get a bit overrated. So, if ASU is the 3rd best PAC 10 team, and UGA is a top 2, at least top 3 SEC team....how is it lose/lose for UGA? If UGA loses on the road to them, why is that bad? Afterall, you say ASU is a top 3 PAC 10 team. Conversely, if they win against a top 3 PAC 10 team on the road, why is that not a big win? Are you suggesting that the Gap between the top of the SEC and top of the PAC 10, sans USC, is that great? You can't have it both ways. what Im saying...Pac-10 isnt very good this yearOk, thanks for clarifying that. and the SEC is overrated. Big12 is just as good.Only team that looks great in the SEC is Florida. And thats the only team thats actually fun to watch. Auburn... isnt and wont be top 10, probably finishes outside the top 25. Alabama... will finish in the 20'sLSU... good but no QB playGeorgia... overrated
Quote from: OregonBucFan on September 19, 2008, 08:00:12 PMQuote from: LFO on September 19, 2008, 07:50:30 PMQuote from: OregonBucFan on September 19, 2008, 07:46:33 PMQuote from: LFO on September 19, 2008, 07:43:54 PMQuote from: OregonBucFan on September 19, 2008, 07:42:00 PMQuote from: LFO on September 19, 2008, 07:37:31 PMLose/Lose?LOL.ASU is supposed to be a top 3 PAC 10 team. �It's funny they are now relegated to being crappy....well you think its a big win now? I thought the pac-10 sucked? And MAYBE 2 good teams... but now there good like UCLA, oh wait they lost to a mountain west team...Georgia... you win, its expected � � � � � � � you lose... SEC spin, well its a tough road game they need to focus on the only good conference in any sports the SEC. They were just overlooking them. No, I don't think they are very good...but again, that was the point. �They were a favorite to win the conference, or at least compete for 2nd best. �And now you relegate them to being crappy. �I also don't think UGA is the world beater some think they are....they are a good team, but not unbeatable. �I don't really think any team is. �UGA needs to get ahead early, if they struggle early I think ASU has a shot. �ASU is and still is the 3rd best team. And no they were never the favorite to win the conference.... UCLA was I never said ASU was crappy they are probably 25-30 ranked team. I dont put much into the loss to UNLV. But they still have problems on defense and the OL. But year in and year out they tend to get a bit overrated. So, if ASU is the 3rd best PAC 10 team, and UGA is a top 2, at least top 3 SEC team....how is it lose/lose for UGA? If UGA loses on the road to them, why is that bad? Afterall, you say ASU is a top 3 PAC 10 team. Conversely, if they win against a top 3 PAC 10 team on the road, why is that not a big win? Are you suggesting that the Gap between the top of the SEC and top of the PAC 10, sans USC, is that great? You can't have it both ways. what Im saying...Pac-10 isnt very good this yearOk, thanks for clarifying that.
Quote from: LFO on September 19, 2008, 07:50:30 PMQuote from: OregonBucFan on September 19, 2008, 07:46:33 PMQuote from: LFO on September 19, 2008, 07:43:54 PMQuote from: OregonBucFan on September 19, 2008, 07:42:00 PMQuote from: LFO on September 19, 2008, 07:37:31 PMLose/Lose?LOL.ASU is supposed to be a top 3 PAC 10 team. �It's funny they are now relegated to being crappy....well you think its a big win now? I thought the pac-10 sucked? And MAYBE 2 good teams... but now there good like UCLA, oh wait they lost to a mountain west team...Georgia... you win, its expected � � � � � � � you lose... SEC spin, well its a tough road game they need to focus on the only good conference in any sports the SEC. They were just overlooking them. No, I don't think they are very good...but again, that was the point. �They were a favorite to win the conference, or at least compete for 2nd best. �And now you relegate them to being crappy. �I also don't think UGA is the world beater some think they are....they are a good team, but not unbeatable. �I don't really think any team is. �UGA needs to get ahead early, if they struggle early I think ASU has a shot. �ASU is and still is the 3rd best team. And no they were never the favorite to win the conference.... UCLA was I never said ASU was crappy they are probably 25-30 ranked team. I dont put much into the loss to UNLV. But they still have problems on defense and the OL. But year in and year out they tend to get a bit overrated. So, if ASU is the 3rd best PAC 10 team, and UGA is a top 2, at least top 3 SEC team....how is it lose/lose for UGA? If UGA loses on the road to them, why is that bad? Afterall, you say ASU is a top 3 PAC 10 team. Conversely, if they win against a top 3 PAC 10 team on the road, why is that not a big win? Are you suggesting that the Gap between the top of the SEC and top of the PAC 10, sans USC, is that great? You can't have it both ways. what Im saying...Pac-10 isnt very good this year
Quote from: OregonBucFan on September 19, 2008, 07:46:33 PMQuote from: LFO on September 19, 2008, 07:43:54 PMQuote from: OregonBucFan on September 19, 2008, 07:42:00 PMQuote from: LFO on September 19, 2008, 07:37:31 PMLose/Lose?LOL.ASU is supposed to be a top 3 PAC 10 team. �It's funny they are now relegated to being crappy....well you think its a big win now? I thought the pac-10 sucked? And MAYBE 2 good teams... but now there good like UCLA, oh wait they lost to a mountain west team...Georgia... you win, its expected � � � � � � � you lose... SEC spin, well its a tough road game they need to focus on the only good conference in any sports the SEC. They were just overlooking them. No, I don't think they are very good...but again, that was the point. �They were a favorite to win the conference, or at least compete for 2nd best. �And now you relegate them to being crappy. �I also don't think UGA is the world beater some think they are....they are a good team, but not unbeatable. �I don't really think any team is. �UGA needs to get ahead early, if they struggle early I think ASU has a shot. �ASU is and still is the 3rd best team. And no they were never the favorite to win the conference.... UCLA was I never said ASU was crappy they are probably 25-30 ranked team. I dont put much into the loss to UNLV. But they still have problems on defense and the OL. But year in and year out they tend to get a bit overrated. So, if ASU is the 3rd best PAC 10 team, and UGA is a top 2, at least top 3 SEC team....how is it lose/lose for UGA? If UGA loses on the road to them, why is that bad? Afterall, you say ASU is a top 3 PAC 10 team. Conversely, if they win against a top 3 PAC 10 team on the road, why is that not a big win? Are you suggesting that the Gap between the top of the SEC and top of the PAC 10, sans USC, is that great? You can't have it both ways.
Quote from: LFO on September 19, 2008, 07:43:54 PMQuote from: OregonBucFan on September 19, 2008, 07:42:00 PMQuote from: LFO on September 19, 2008, 07:37:31 PMLose/Lose?LOL.ASU is supposed to be a top 3 PAC 10 team. �It's funny they are now relegated to being crappy....well you think its a big win now? I thought the pac-10 sucked? And MAYBE 2 good teams... but now there good like UCLA, oh wait they lost to a mountain west team...Georgia... you win, its expected � � � � � � � you lose... SEC spin, well its a tough road game they need to focus on the only good conference in any sports the SEC. They were just overlooking them. No, I don't think they are very good...but again, that was the point. �They were a favorite to win the conference, or at least compete for 2nd best. �And now you relegate them to being crappy. �I also don't think UGA is the world beater some think they are....they are a good team, but not unbeatable. �I don't really think any team is. �UGA needs to get ahead early, if they struggle early I think ASU has a shot. �ASU is and still is the 3rd best team. And no they were never the favorite to win the conference.... UCLA was I never said ASU was crappy they are probably 25-30 ranked team. I dont put much into the loss to UNLV. But they still have problems on defense and the OL. But year in and year out they tend to get a bit overrated.
Quote from: OregonBucFan on September 19, 2008, 07:42:00 PMQuote from: LFO on September 19, 2008, 07:37:31 PMLose/Lose?LOL.ASU is supposed to be a top 3 PAC 10 team. �It's funny they are now relegated to being crappy....well you think its a big win now? I thought the pac-10 sucked? And MAYBE 2 good teams... but now there good like UCLA, oh wait they lost to a mountain west team...Georgia... you win, its expected � � � � � � � you lose... SEC spin, well its a tough road game they need to focus on the only good conference in any sports the SEC. They were just overlooking them. No, I don't think they are very good...but again, that was the point. �They were a favorite to win the conference, or at least compete for 2nd best. �And now you relegate them to being crappy. �I also don't think UGA is the world beater some think they are....they are a good team, but not unbeatable. �I don't really think any team is. �UGA needs to get ahead early, if they struggle early I think ASU has a shot. �
Quote from: LFO on September 19, 2008, 07:37:31 PMLose/Lose?LOL.ASU is supposed to be a top 3 PAC 10 team. �It's funny they are now relegated to being crappy....well you think its a big win now? I thought the pac-10 sucked? And MAYBE 2 good teams... but now there good like UCLA, oh wait they lost to a mountain west team...Georgia... you win, its expected � � � � � � � you lose... SEC spin, well its a tough road game they need to focus on the only good conference in any sports the SEC. They were just overlooking them.
Lose/Lose?LOL.ASU is supposed to be a top 3 PAC 10 team. �It's funny they are now relegated to being crappy....
Quote from: LFO on September 19, 2008, 08:24:32 PMQuote from: OregonBucFan on September 19, 2008, 08:08:04 PMQuote from: LFO on September 19, 2008, 08:04:39 PMQuote from: OregonBucFan on September 19, 2008, 08:00:12 PMQuote from: LFO on September 19, 2008, 07:50:30 PMQuote from: OregonBucFan on September 19, 2008, 07:46:33 PMQuote from: LFO on September 19, 2008, 07:43:54 PMQuote from: OregonBucFan on September 19, 2008, 07:42:00 PMQuote from: LFO on September 19, 2008, 07:37:31 PMLose/Lose?LOL.ASU is supposed to be a top 3 PAC 10 team. �It's funny they are now relegated to being crappy....well you think its a big win now? I thought the pac-10 sucked? And MAYBE 2 good teams... but now there good like UCLA, oh wait they lost to a mountain west team...Georgia... you win, its expected � � � � � � � you lose... SEC spin, well its a tough road game they need to focus on the only good conference in any sports the SEC. They were just overlooking them. No, I don't think they are very good...but again, that was the point. �They were a favorite to win the conference, or at least compete for 2nd best. �And now you relegate them to being crappy. �I also don't think UGA is the world beater some think they are....they are a good team, but not unbeatable. �I don't really think any team is. �UGA needs to get ahead early, if they struggle early I think ASU has a shot. �ASU is and still is the 3rd best team. And no they were never the favorite to win the conference.... UCLA was I never said ASU was crappy they are probably 25-30 ranked team. I dont put much into the loss to UNLV. But they still have problems on defense and the OL. But year in and year out they tend to get a bit overrated. So, if ASU is the 3rd best PAC 10 team, and UGA is a top 2, at least top 3 SEC team....how is it lose/lose for UGA? If UGA loses on the road to them, why is that bad? Afterall, you say ASU is a top 3 PAC 10 team. Conversely, if they win against a top 3 PAC 10 team on the road, why is that not a big win? Are you suggesting that the Gap between the top of the SEC and top of the PAC 10, sans USC, is that great? You can't have it both ways. what Im saying...Pac-10 isnt very good this yearOk, thanks for clarifying that. and the SEC is overrated. Big12 is just as good.Only team that looks great in the SEC is Florida. And thats the only team thats actually fun to watch. Auburn... isnt and wont be top 10, probably finishes outside the top 25. Alabama... will finish in the 20'sLSU... good but no QB playGeorgia... overratedBig 12? They have Oklahoma. That's it. Nobody else can play the defense to win anything.As for those SEC teams, all are better than Oregon, who you anoint 2nd best PAC 10. If LSU doesn't have QB play, what do you think of Oregon? Roper blows, and now is hurt. Hope that backup is any good....Hmmm......sorry OBF.
Never seen such a positive spin put on a loss to a non BCS team.Especially when you were just here touting Oregon as the 2nd best PAC 10 team.What does that say about the PAC 10 then?Just trying to figure out where you are coming from here. Because it seems all over the place lately/
Well at least Oregon has USC setup for the upset.