The rust excuse

[Lamond]

I don't disagree with that. But a loss is a loss. The season was over.

[Feel Real Good]

QB B's season ended just the same as QB A's.

And in 2000 Shaun King lost a wild card game just like Peyton Manning. Which one do you want?

[DanTurksGhost]

And Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl, but I sure never wanted him back here again.

[ufojoe]

Amazing how many conclusions can be reached from a Pre Season game?� Some fans really grasp at straws for their own personal agenda.

Garcia made some mistakes.. Who cares? it was a pre season exhibition game.

The last time we saw Garcia in January he underthrew 2 balls that were intercepted. Saturday he threw 2 more balls that were pathetically underthrown and picked off. If you (and Gruden) want to ignore the giant elephant in the room then go ahead. But some of us aren't so naive.

The INT in the end zone wasn't as much under thrown as it was a pass that shouldn't have been thrown in the first
place.

And Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl, but I sure never wanted him back here again.

I dunno, we sure could have used a Dilfer in 06....

QBA and QBB are neither impressive nor capable of winning the trophy.

Obviously, you haven't seen QBB perform.

Amazing how many conclusions can be reached from a Pre Season game?� Some fans really grasp at straws for their own personal agenda.

Garcia made some mistakes.. Who cares? it was a pre season exhibition game.

The last time we saw Garcia in January he underthrew 2 balls that were intercepted. Saturday he threw 2 more balls that were pathetically underthrown and picked off. If you (and Gruden) want to ignore the giant elephant in the room then go ahead. But some of us aren't so naive.

The INT in the end zone wasn't as much under thrown as it was a pass that shouldn't have been thrown in the first
place.

It was still underthrown, very much so....

[TBayXXXVII]

Take 2 vet QB's.

QB-A a professional football player for 15 years. QB-B a professional football player for 17 years.

QB-A working out all offseason. QB-B fishing, hiking, drinking beer and eating hot wings.

QB-A participating in OTA's. QB-B fishing, hiking, drinking beer and eating hot wings.

QB-A participating in Mini-Camps. QB-B fishing, hiking, drinking beer and eating hot wings.

QB-A misses most of Training Camp. QB-B misses most of training camp.

QB-A in the same offense, with the same players, with the same coaches and the same WR's. QB-B in a completely different offense, with completely different players, completely different coaches and WR's he's never passed a ball to.

QB-A is heralded as a great protector of the ball. QB-B known to toss an ill advised pass often that results in turnovers.

QB-A looks horrible in his first live game action. Weak throws, inaccurate passes and 2 INT's. QB-B looks sharp in his first action. Strong accurate throws on target and seems to know where his receivers should be even though he's never worked with them before.

QB-A is proclaimed to be rusty. QB-B....can he be anything other than rusty?

What's the difference between these 2 QB's? By all accounts shouldn't QB-B have looked worse? I mean no other factor at all than just the rusty excuse, QB-B should be a hell of a lot more rusty. It doesn't matter who they are, or what their resume is. If one of these QB's should be rusty it definitely should be QB-B. So was QB-A's horrible performance really do to rust?

You my friend, have started the foundation of "What separates a good QB from a GREAT QB?"

[DanTurksGhost]

I dunno, we sure could have used a Dilfer in 06....

No thanks.

[Lamond]

I'd rather the Bucs lose 26 in a row again that re-open the Trent Dilfer Pandora's Box one more time.

Just kidding....a little

[ABuccs Fan]

Again, it's about the rust. For a QB who has been a professional for 15 years, the rust excuse is laughable. As proven by the performance of Favre who should have been a hell of a lot more rusty and self admittedly had a fatigued arm. As will the performances of Manning and Brady when they come back after not playing for all off season. If Brady and Manning play as horrifically as Garcia did in their first games back, then I'll say all you "rust excusers" are right, and I'm wrong. But for now I think it's  disgustingly sad that this is what some of you are willing to accept.

[DanTurksGhost]

Coach would have used up his lifetime supply of Chucky faces in a single season.

If Brady and Manning play as horrifically as Garcia did in their first games back, then I'll say all you "rust excusers" are right, and I'm wrong. But for now I think it's disgustingly sad that this is what some of you are willing to accept.

^^^^ LMAO ^^^^

[ABuccs Fan]

You my friend, have started the foundation of "What separates a good QB from a GREAT QB?"

So good QB's suck when they are rusty? Or a good QB wouldn't get rusty? I'm of the mind that if Garcia was half as good as his nut huggers would want us to believe, he would never have performed as such the other night.

[Lamond]

All players get rusty when they don't play. That's why they play preseason games and have Training Camps.