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#165 : September 18, 2008, 01:28:25 PM

MSNBC says the Palin bounce is over

What?  Shocking.

You should probably start another thread with this revelation of the non-partisan news channel that is MSNBC.


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#166 : September 18, 2008, 01:35:41 PM

Meanwhile, Rupert Murdoch's Fox Network still has McCain up by 3 points...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,420361,00.html

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#167 : September 18, 2008, 01:41:18 PM

Meanwhile, Rupert Murdoch's Fox Network still has McCain up by 3 points...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,420361,00.html

More breaking news.  Thanks for posting.


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#168 : September 18, 2008, 10:50:26 PM

MSNBC says the Palin bounce is over - Obama has +5 point lead on some polls and as little as +2 on Gallup.

Hope she didn't quit her Gov job.

The Palin and R convention bounce are over. IMO, it's Obama's race to lose.

Palin is one of those fresh, new, honest faces who isn't a liar like the other politicians...

http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0908/Palin_asked_daughters_on_veep_vote_after_they_were_already_in_OH_for_announcement.html?

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Appearing on Fox last night, Sarah Palin told Sean Hannity a heartwarming story of how she asked her teenage daughters for their opinion before accepting the vp offer.

"So ask the girls what they thought and they’re like, ‘Absolutely, let’s do this, Mom,’” Palin recounted of her daughters, Bristol and Willow.

Yet, according to the campaign-provided timeline of how Palin's selection came about, her kids only found out the big news after they were spirited from Alaska to Ohio for the announcement.

By itself, the tale is a small thing.    Perhaps Palin was more running it by them then asking them.  But why, when many of her policy-related statements are coming under question, would Palin embroider something that is so easily proven untrue?

Al Gore was roasted in 2000 for his exaggerations, and the pattern of them gave Republicans a brutal frame to use against him.   With these sorts of stories, Palin is giving Democrats the same sort of ammunition.




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#169 : September 19, 2008, 06:49:13 PM

Does anyone else think it funny to hear a guy like Hagel make a case that PALIN isn't qualified to Vice President? I think if you'd check the time in office for the HEAD of the Democrat ticket to the time in office of the NUMBER TWO spot of the Republican ticket - you'd see a very interesting correlation.

Only, last time I checked - you're suppsed to compare number ones vs number ones...I guess we make that allowance when Obama doesn't exactly compare favorably to McCain's experience...

Besides, Obama has no shot at this. When you have an economic downturn you don't ADD universal healthcare, universal college education and universal increase in minimum wage - without that tax increase Obama has often discussed - and in order to pay for his programs ANYONE under 100K per year better start reaching for his wallet...because you got rich overnight (even if you still have too much month left at the end of your paycheck).

Doesn't matter how you frame it - the number two on the Democrat ticket stuck his foot in his mouth and proved to ALL Americans what their plans are when he informed a crowd that it was their patriotic duty to pay (intent = higher) taxes...I mean after Obama's struggle to come to terms with patriotism, don't you find it odd that they'd pick that line?

No, I don't think America really thinks "Fiscal Responsibility" when they think Democrat party. I think when anyone says "democrat party" they HEAR "Keg Party" party"...Eat drink and be merry - somebody else is paying...!"

McCain called the current economic problem - BACK IN 2005!! Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Act of 2005. THE DEMOCRATS KILLED THE BILL IN COMMITTEE. The number two LARGEST recipient of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac lobby money was SENATOR BARAK OBAMA.  When the bill was introduced (ironically by Chuck Hagel, with co-sponsorship by John McCain, Elizabeth Dole and John Sunnunu) he stated the problems we would face if these entities were left to run amok the way they had been functioning. Turns out - like the surge - McCain was right.

That's what American's trust - a straight shooter. Not one that speaks of hope and change wihtout any definitive course of action.

Having no substance is why democrats can't gain the national office, having substance that isn't all together pretty - but understood and agreed to by the American people - is why McCain/Palin will be elected.

There may not be any further tax cuts - but you can BET there will be trimming of budget programs. Once items like social security and welfare were considered untouchable - not so after this crisis. Trust me, the Democrats know what's in store for the next President - while they may make a public show - they don't want any part of making constituents mad by trimming the untouchables.

..think it over, you'll probably agree.

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