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#30 : December 28, 2006, 09:24:37 PM

This thread wasn't a "fire Gruden" thread, but many want to make it out to be.  The point of the thread is to at least at some point during the Gruden Era, we hold HIM accountable for the finished results.  I understand the cap, injuries, etc, but other coaches in this league seem to find a way to win and deal with those problems.  If we have ANOTHER losing season next year, it will be four losing seasons out of six.  But people will continue to say that we need to wait one more year, give more time, etc.  There seems to be no end in site for many who think that this team will be as it was with Gruden at the helm. 



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#31 : December 28, 2006, 09:35:00 PM

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This may be over your head and difficult for you to digest, but it IS about hate....right along with your countless other anti-Gruden drivel that you torture the forums with.  You'd find fault with Gruden even if he went 16-0 and rolled to a Super Bowl win.

Your disdain is blatantly obvious and you appear obsessed with your dislike.  So you can backpedal if you like in saying it isn't about hate.  But you are too late.  You've already shown your hand.


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#32 : December 28, 2006, 09:42:26 PM

Prefer, it's pointless to argue; we will just have to agree to disagree.  By the way, very cool signature.

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#33 : December 28, 2006, 09:50:20 PM

So what is the bottom line if no Super bowl no excuses? If no playoff , If no winning record. What do we need to do to justify the no excuses?

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#34 : December 28, 2006, 09:53:56 PM

So what is the bottom line if no Super bowl no excuses? If no playoff , If no winning record. What do we need to do to justify the no excuses?

A COMPETITIVE team for sixteen games with hopefully a winning record at the end to show for it.

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#35 : December 29, 2006, 06:05:46 PM

All this talk about getting a vet QB in here, and I still can't get anyone to give me a legit name.

I dont think Garcia will be available by the time free agency rolls around. There is no gurantee that McNabb will be ready to start next year. He could pull a Culpepper where he isnt ready to play and end up screwing up their season. So I think the Eagles will resign Garcia and pay him. Especially if he leads that team into the playoffs.

That leaves Jake "the mistake" Plummer. Who is someone that most people in Tampa already do not want.

After that...there isn't any vets. Everyone is holding on to their QBs.

Doesn't Garcia get to make that choice whether he hits FA or not-- he is going to want a team he can start for right away. And not have the looming notion of as soon as McNabb is healthy he is out. Garcia has a chance at one more pay day-- and the Eagles never give up big jack for anyone-- he would be crazy not to test FA waters.

Also in addition to Jake, there are talks of Carr that are still viable, Brunell?-- slim pickings but there are some names out there. We defintiely need a vet to push or replace Simms.

You see, Garcia wants to be on a team that has a chance of going to the Super Bowl next year. The Bucs will not be a Super Bowl team next year. If we make the right movies, maybe we can compete for a wild card considering how weak the NFC really is. But this is not a Super Bowl team.

Thats what everyone said about Tampa the last time we went 5-11 yet we won the division-- how many picked NO to go to contend for a possible SB birth this year.

Tampa with an easy schedule and thr right FA moves could do just about anything-- since parity started in this league it is an any given Sunday race now- especially in the NFC. The SB favorite this year was Carolina- Point is you never know and this is a system Garcia could flourish in and he knows that. Not to mention at his age one final payday is what talks not a chance at a SB.

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