Gruden and Griese are 7-1.....

[Badabing]

so even tho we are winning with Gruden and Griese...you want to go to McCown?  Why?


It's not like McCown is the future, the dude is 27 years old.  He would be just another stop gap.

I vote we rename McCown - McClock (until he get's his timing right...)

(Ok - little bored today...)

so even tho we are winning with Gruden and Griese...you want to go to McCown?  Why?


It's not like McCown is the future, the dude is 27 years old.  He would be just another stop gap.

10 years is not a stop-gap Carmella.  1 year is.  Did you guys sell your house yet?

[Badabing]

so even tho we are winning with Gruden and Griese...you want to go to McCown?  Why?


It's not like McCown is the future, the dude is 27 years old.  He would be just another stop gap.

10 years is not a stop-gap Carmella. 1 year is. Did you guys sell your house yet?

10 years?  So you think McCown will play to 37?  Not every QB plays to that age.  Would you be shocked if McCown wasn't resigned this off-season?  So why waste the time on him. We will keep Griese, Josh Johnson next year and most likely add another vet to compete with Griese or at least back him up.  Heck, maybe even draft a QB, but I dont see them having 2 inexperienced QBs behind Griese.

  Also, due to Jeff not getting that bonus last year we had to go into foreclosure

[BuckEmUp]

Lets hope JC does not see this thread.  He might have a stroke.


That video was funny.

IT got me pumped also.

[1sparkybuc]

so even tho we are winning with Gruden and Griese...you want to go to McCown?  Why?


It's not like McCown is the future, the dude is 27 years old.  He would be just another stop gap.

I'm fine with Griese as the starter, and with McCown and Johnson backing him up. It would be a good thing to give McCown some game experience to build on the THREE (count them) THREE 3 starts that he has had with this team, in the right situation, just in case he might be needed later on. Griese will not be here for ten years. McCown might. Gruden has him as the #2 QB for a reason. Play him late in a game that has already been decided. He has the skills and he has the talent and he's several years younger than Rich Gannon was when Gruden had success with him.

We damn sure don't want Garcia back out there.

[Badabing]

McCown wont be here next year, let alone the next 10...

also Garcia is arguably our best QB....if you want to give Griese that spot, then Garcia is at the very least 2nd best....

get a grip..."damn sure dont want Garcia back out there"...pfft you wont be saying that after another 3 INT Griese performance if we dont come out on top....

[Simms2Clayton05]

As long as we are winnin with griese at qb why change it? Until we start seein the Griese from chicago, he will be the starter here. Plus McCown said he wants to stay here.

McCown wont be here next year, let alone the next 10...

also Garcia is arguably our best QB....if you want to give Griese that spot, then Garcia is at the very least 2nd best....

get a grip..."damn sure dont want Garcia back out there"...pfft you wont be saying that after another 3 INT Griese performance if we dont come out on top....

If Griese falters I'd like McCown out there.  I never want to see Garcia on the field again.  It's over for him, he's deader'n disco.

And I love how you all riding the jock of a 38 year old QB but but consider a 27 year old a "stop gap".  I think your infatuation has robbed you of all sense...

[Simms2Clayton05]

Garcia sux and he wont play another down for us. Hes not gonna play his heart out for this team again, so why put the ball in his hand. Meanwhile Griese and McCown do have something to play for here. They want to be full time starters here. Even if Griese continues to play well, I think McCown wants to stay here because he knows the sytem and prolly has a better chance clicking here than anywhere else. I think he knows the longer he is here, the more he will know what to do when he does go on the field. Then he can do what this offense wants to accomplish.

[sammy8887]

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80b1fcd7

Hadn't seen this one before...

That video was very telling of Gruden needing a QB that fits his personality...great piece...

[GameTime]

so even tho we are winning with Gruden and Griese...you want to go to McCown?  Why?


It's not like McCown is the future, the dude is 27 years old.  He would be just another stop gap.

a 27 year old stopgap?  ha.  worst case scenario at that age is 5-6 years.  and thats no stopgap.

i wont argue having griese at QB, we are winning games and thats all that matters.  but the team is not above constructive criticism, especially on a MB.  i still think we are winning despite griese, not because of him.  25th in ypa, 25th in completion%, 25 in passer rating.  even with those numbers, he easily could be our best option.

[The Q]

As long as Griese is winning, there will be no change at QB.
I will repeat that: AS LONG AS THE BUCS WIN, GRIESE STAYS AT QB.
It's pretty simple, win and play. Garcia is waiting in the wings. Luke is waiting in the wings. It's all good. Just win!

[michael89156]

Griese all the way.............give Luke mop up duty for experience.

[kevinmills]

It's funny how perceptions get exaggerated over time. People keep digging on McCown's internal clock. You would think he was getting sacked out there every play and was a hot mess. And Rob Johnson? RJ never moved the team down field like McCown has in his limited time and wasnt nearly as accurate.

McCown did make some bone headed plays last year I'll admit. At the same time he hadnt started but a handful of games in his young career. Growing pains are to be expected with any young QB.