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Palin thinks that the government gets to decide whether a woman can keep the fetus inside her body. That is government intrusion on a very personal matter.
�Personally, I would counsel the person to choose life, despite horrific, horrific circumstances that this person would find themselves in,� Palin said. �If you�re asking, though, kind of foundationally here, should anyone end up in jail for having an � abortion, absolutely not.�
Quote from: Biggs3535 on October 01, 2008, 06:52:45 PMThe argument comes down to at what point do you believe a baby is a living human being?� In my opinion, the baby is a living human being when it's born.
The argument comes down to at what point do you believe a baby is a living human being?�
Quote from: JavaBuc on October 01, 2008, 06:55:06 PMQuote from: Biggs3535 on October 01, 2008, 06:52:45 PMThe argument comes down to at what point do you believe a baby is a living human being?� In my opinion, the baby is a living human being when it's born.Do living human beings have heart beats? or brain activity?
Quote from: Biggs3535 on October 01, 2008, 07:15:25 PMQuote from: JavaBuc on October 01, 2008, 06:55:06 PMQuote from: Biggs3535 on October 01, 2008, 06:52:45 PMThe argument comes down to at what point do you believe a baby is a living human being?� In my opinion, the baby is a living human being when it's born.Do living human beings have heart beats? or brain activity?If the woman throws the thing out of her body and it can't survive, it wasn't a person yet.
Quote from: Biggs3535 on October 01, 2008, 07:15:25 PMQuote from: JavaBuc on October 01, 2008, 06:55:06 PMQuote from: Biggs3535 on October 01, 2008, 06:52:45 PMThe argument comes down to at what point do you believe a baby is a living human being?� In my opinion, the baby is a living human being when it's born.Do living human beings have heart beats? or brain activity?If the woman throws the thing out of her body and it can't survive, it wasn't a person yet.
Quote from: JavaBuc on October 01, 2008, 06:55:06 PMQuote from: Biggs3535 on October 01, 2008, 06:52:45 PMThe argument comes down to at what point do you believe a baby is a living human being?� In my opinion, the baby is a living human being when it's born.Do living human beings have heart beats? or brain activity?
Quote from: Biggs3535 on October 01, 2008, 06:52:45 PMThe argument comes down to at what point do you believe a baby is a living human being?� In my opinion, the baby is a living human being when it's born.
The argument comes down to at what point do you believe a baby is a living human being?�
An aborted baby can't even survive if you hook it up to as many machines as you want.I'm not questioning people's education who believe abortion should be illegal, I'm questioning their common sense.This issue is absolutely a no-brainer.
For once, (if this is true) I would have to be against this chick. I was for her completely intitially, but hearing this makes me sick.So I guess it's ok for rapists to keep they're genetics going?
Like it's fair that the raped woman gets to carry a baby she didn't even want for 9 months, then have it taken away?
It may NOT be fair for the fetus, but that what it is, a fetus...NOT a baby. (Personally, I don't think ANYTHING is truly alive until it can remember, or recall past events) (e.g. Running into a electric fence. Once you do it, you don't do it again.)
And I suppose we (taxpayers) should surpport the "unwanted" children as well?
This whole thing stinks worse than my socks. I don't surpport "killing" anything.. But look at it this way, If the woman that is raped can't get "it" out, they may kill themselves, or go "underground" to get the fetus aborted. Imvho, neither option sounds all to good. Besides, there have been plenty of fetuses aborted with less reasonings why.
If a woman chooses to carry the baby full-term, then good for her! If not, I could still completely understand wanting to get something "foreign" out of their bodies. NOT praising O-bama in any way, but I wouldn't be able to vote for someone who would think thats "ok".
This abortion issue is not even an issue to me. For someone like Palin (or anyone else) to say a woman doesn't have the right to choose to have an abortion is ridiculous. If I thought there was any chance at all that current abortion laws were going to be overturned, I'd vote against Palin simply because of that. However, I don't think there is that chance.This is the one issue that seems to me to be a no-brainer, yet religious fanatics seem to keep sticking to their guns and saying there should be no abortion. RIDICULOUS. I think it's an embarrassment for an educated person to even consider such a thing. It's the woman's right to choose - period.
If a woman or child becomes pregnant because rape, there is no denying that it would be a traumatic experience. The child though, had no say in the manner in which it was consumated. It would be a situation that would have to be dealt with delicately and with compassion. A great deal of support would be needed, but there are people, like me, who think that killing a child for a crime it did not commit is an extreme measure.
Quote from: olafberserker on October 01, 2008, 07:03:56 PMQuote from: JavaBuc on October 01, 2008, 06:55:06 PMQuote from: Biggs3535 on October 01, 2008, 06:52:45 PMThe argument comes down to at what point do you believe a baby is a living human being?? In my opinion, the baby is a living human being when it's born.That's why you see things differently on the issue.Differently from who? This is not an issue. It's the woman's right to choose. If we were to make abortion illegal, the women would just go off and get illegal abortions and may die because of it. Why even attempt to go there? It's moronic to even consider making abortion illegal.
Quote from: JavaBuc on October 01, 2008, 06:55:06 PMQuote from: Biggs3535 on October 01, 2008, 06:52:45 PMThe argument comes down to at what point do you believe a baby is a living human being?? In my opinion, the baby is a living human being when it's born.That's why you see things differently on the issue.
Quote from: Biggs3535 on October 01, 2008, 06:52:45 PMThe argument comes down to at what point do you believe a baby is a living human being?? In my opinion, the baby is a living human being when it's born.
The argument comes down to at what point do you believe a baby is a living human being??