You've got to be kidding me....

[TURBO]

. The family is broken because we don't believe in the fairy tale God anymore and we are making our own rules! Pray?? Forget that ....you and your liberal buddies will never ever get it.

Because everyone knows that people that pray to a god never have problems in life.....only the atheist heathens, right?

ignorance at its finest!

[Morgan]

.... if that means dumping off their responsibilities on others, so be it. 

Matthew 7:1

[TURBO]

.... if that means dumping off their responsibilities on others, so be it.

Matthew 7:1

lol

you are a piece of work man...

[BucsGuru]

. The family is broken because we don't believe in the fairy tale God anymore and we are making our own rules! Pray?? Forget that ....you and your liberal buddies will never ever get it.

Because everyone knows that people that pray to a god never have problems in life.....only the atheist heathens, right?

Why do you think we are praying??  Goodness sakes man, you and Joe are beginning to look like cousins in your thinking.

[MrFreakinMiyagi]

. The family is broken because we don't believe in the fairy tale God anymore and we are making our own rules! Pray?? Forget that ....you and your liberal buddies will never ever get it.

Because everyone knows that people that pray to a god never have problems in life.....only the atheist heathens, right?

Why do you think we are praying?? Goodness sakes man, you and Joe are beginning to look like cousins in your thinking.

I don't always agree with Joe, but this is a low blow.

[Morgan]

I always wondered why 100,000 people died in Jakarta from that tsunami -

None of them prayed.

[BucsGuru]

Looking for an argument Morgan.  I don't know why those people died in Jakarta.  Prayers aren't always answered.  There is the will of God, and the sovreign will of God. 

[BucsBullsBolts]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081113/ap_on_re_us/safe_haven

LINCOLN, Neb. – The mother was running out of more than patience when she abandoned her 18-year-old daughter at a hospital over the weekend under Nebraska's safe-haven law. She was also running out of time: She knew that state lawmakers would soon meet in a special session to amend the ill-fated law so that it would apply to newborns only.

"Where am I going to get help if they change the law?" said the mother, who lives in Lincoln and asked to not be identified by name to protect her adopted child.

To the state's surprise and embarrassment, more than half of the 31 children legally abandoned under the safe-haven law since it took effect in mid-July have been teenagers.

But state officials may have inadvertently made things worse with their hesitant response to the problem: The number of drop-offs has almost tripled to about three a week since Gov. Dave Heineman announced on Oct. 29 that lawmakers would rewrite the law.

With legislators set to convene on Friday, weary parents like the Lincoln mother have been racing to drop off their children while they still can.

On Thursday, authorities searched for two teens � a boy and girl, ages 14 and 17 � who fled an Omaha hospital as their mother tried to abandon them. The mother was trying to take them from the car to the emergency room when they took off.

Child welfare experts said the late deluge of drop-offs was probably inevitable. After all, they said, some date had to be picked to begin changing the law.

But some of them said lawmakers and the governor missed chances to change the law early because they underestimated the number of desperate families looking for help. Heineman called the special session only after a spate of five drop-offs in eight days.

Reluctance to pull senators away from their jobs and election campaigns, along with the estimated $70,000 to $80,000 cost of a special session, were among the reasons Heineman's office cited in holding off on calling a special session sooner.

"I think there was a fair amount of denial on the part of legislators that it would snowball," said Karen Authier, executive director of the Nebraska Children's Home Society.

The safe-haven law was intended to save "Dumpster babies" by allowing desperate young mothers to abandon their newborns at a hospital without fear of prosecution. But lawmakers could not agree on an age limit, and the law as passed uses only the word "child."

All states have safe-haven laws, but in every state but Nebraska, the law applies to infants only.

Authier said her group and others had warned senators after the law passed early this year that there could be problems, but the lawmakers did not believe it.

"It wasn't like talking to a stone wall," Authier said. "It was just that people who aren't in the business of dealing with families, they aren't aware how desperate some of these families are."

Sure enough, 18 teenagers � five 17-year-olds, two 16-year-olds, six 15-year-olds, two 14-year-olds, three 13-year-olds � have been abandoned, along with eight children who were 11 or 12. Five of the children dropped off have been from out of state.

The Lincoln mother who dropped off her 18-year-old daughter said she was repeatedly turned down when she sought help from police, state social services authorities and the girl's school. The woman said her daughter had been diagnosed with a mental illness when she was 12 and had deep psychological scars from childhood abuse and from being left alone with her dead biological mother for a week.

The woman said she felt she had no choice but to leave her daughter at the hospital after a recent flurry of assault, stealing, sleeping around and cutting school.

"I thought she would get help" through the safe-haven law, the mother said.

However, state authorities refused to take the young woman into custody, saying Nebraska law regarding juveniles does not let authorities take in anyone older than 17. The woman left with her daughter.

Fourteen children in all have been left at three hospitals operated by Alegent Health in the Omaha area.

"These are largely families at a point of incredible desperation," said Wayne Sensor, chief executive of Alegent Health. "They aren't bad parents or bad kids. They simply don't know what services are available out there."

Everybody is not cut out for parenthood and this is a perfect example of why abortions should never be made illegal ....

[MrFreakinMiyagi]

Everybody is not cut out for parenthood and this is a perfect example of why abortions should never be made illegal ....

Please don't go there.

[ufojoe]

You have no idea what situation they're in. Or do you?

If you do, please share.

I have a pretty good idea.

They are all too lazy to raise their kids. Many probably have drug problems.

Give them the benefit of the doubt all that you want.

I feel for the children.

So, in other words, you really have no idea what their situation is. If you do, provide some specifics.

We all feel for the children.

[ufojoe]

BTW, I never said that I condone what these folks are doing. It's awful. I can't imagine giving away my cat let alone
a child. But as I said, I don't know the situation and I'm not in their shoes. So, I can't judge them. If some new
info. comes forward so that we can see what's going on in each case, I'd be curious to see it.

The most judgmental people on this board are the ones who preach non-judgment.

[nybuccguy]

Everybody is not cut out for parenthood and this is a perfect example of why abortions should never be made illegal ....

Please don't go there.

 Ã‚  Why, because it makes sense?  If abortion is made illegal, you will have a hundred times more messed up parenting incindints than you see here. This is childs play compared to illegal abortion.

[ufojoe]

Here's one story...

http://www.journalgazette.net/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081114/LOCAL03/811140259/1002/LOCAL

I'm sure there are plenty of same sex couples who would be willing to adopt these kids.

[olafberserker]

Everybody is not cut out for parenthood and this is a perfect example of why abortions should never be made illegal ....

Please don't go there.

 Ã‚  Why, because it makes sense?  If abortion is made illegal, you will have a hundred times more messed up parenting incindints than you see here. This is childs play compared to illegal abortion.

How about proper use of birth control?  Not that I'm clamoring for abortion to be made illegal, but let's put the blame where it belongs.

[MrFreakinMiyagi]

Everybody is not cut out for parenthood and this is a perfect example of why abortions should never be made illegal ....

Please don't go there.

   Why, because it makes sense?  If abortion is made illegal, you will have a hundred times more messed up parenting incindints than you see here. This is childs play compared to illegal abortion.

There is no excuse for killing an innocent life.

That's why we won't go there.