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: December 04, 2008, 08:42:24 PM

Here is a break down on the Buccaneers third down conversion stats, broken down by running and passing as well as yardage needed to get a first down.

The Bucs have converted 67 / 172 overall third down attempts for a conversion rate of 39.0%

They have converted 21 / 48 attempts on the ground for a conversion rate of 43.8%

They have converted 46 / 124 attempts through the air for a conversion rate of 37.1%

Based off of yardage needed is as follows

1 to 3 yards the Bucs are 29 / 57 for a conversion rate of 50.9%
4 to 6 yards the Bucs are 17 / 36 for a conversion rate of 47.2%
7 to 10 yards the Bucs are 15 / 43 for a conversion rate of 34.9%
11 to 20 yards the Bucs are 6 / 35 for a conversion rate of 17.1%
20+ yards the Bucs are 0 / 1 for a conversion rate of 0.0%

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#1 : December 04, 2008, 08:47:46 PM

1 to 3 yards the Bucs are 29 / 57 for a conversion rate of 50.9%

This is where i have a problem with the "greatness" of our o-line. I'd be very curious to see how we rank vs the Giants, Vikes, Titans or Dallas.

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#2 : December 04, 2008, 08:49:30 PM

although we've only run 48 total 3rd downs...

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#3 : December 04, 2008, 09:48:58 PM

Hate, that would be because we choose to pass on those 3rd and short situations instead of trusting our RB corp and 1st and 2nd round O-Linemen.


Also, a lot of times on 3rd and long we run a draw.

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#4 : December 04, 2008, 10:50:08 PM

Seems like half the time we are in 3rd and short we line up in the shotgun


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#5 : December 04, 2008, 10:57:47 PM

I think alot of it has to do with them passing out of 3rd and less then three yards, it doesnt allow for the offensive line to be able to establish an offensive identity. Which works against them team in other short yardage situations.   

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#6 : December 05, 2008, 11:03:59 AM

only 50% on 1-3 yards?   thats terrible.   that number should be at 65-70%


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#7 : December 05, 2008, 11:12:40 AM

only 50% on 1-3 yards? thats terrible. that number should be at 65-70%



Anyone know league average?


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#8 : December 05, 2008, 11:17:23 AM

I think alot of it has to do with them passing out of 3rd and less then three yards, it doesnt allow for the offensive line to be able to establish an offensive identity. Which works against them team in other short yardage situations.

I agree. There has to be a balance, I'd be interested in how many times they pass when it's 3rd and less than 3. What's worse is it's usually a 4 yrd hook route and the LB's sit on them, can't stand that.

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#9 : December 05, 2008, 12:00:02 PM

I think alot of it has to do with them passing out of 3rd and less then three yards, it doesnt allow for the offensive line to be able to establish an offensive identity. Which works against them team in other short yardage situations.

I agree. There has to be a balance, I'd be interested in how many times they pass when it's 3rd and less than 3. What's worse is it's usually a 4 yrd hook route and the LB's sit on them, can't stand that.
Got to call plays that are designed to get you past the chains. If they are being called, and the QB is audibling out of them.....well then.....new QB possibly? Nothing makes me want to kick the neighbor's dog more than a 3rd and 7 and we get 5 yards on some dumb pass play where the WR has his back turned to the defense waiting for a pass that's 2 yards short. Catch the ball and immediately tackled. Punt team......

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#10 : December 05, 2008, 12:34:34 PM

interesting that the % for 1-3 and 4-6 really isnt any different. I pulled up some other teams on CBSsportsline - when you start looking across the board, this stats for many teams are similar. a few stand out - Giants, Cowboys - otherwise most are similar. Although, surprisingly Carolina's isn't that good. Our conversion % is lower than most though. See below

67/172 Bucs
69/152 Giants
67/151 Cardinals
66/151 Jets
54/153 Panthers
72/156 Cowboys
63/166 Titans
68/166 Steelers
68/148 Saints

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