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#15 : December 11, 2008, 02:24:14 PM

Smith was open ... the play worked ... Garcia/Smith didn't get it done
Garcia is roughly the 20th highest paid quarterback in the NFL and Alex Smith makes near the league minimum. Maybe the Bucs should lean on their higher paid/pedigreed players.

FRG is the most logical poster on this board.  You guys just don\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.

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#16 : December 11, 2008, 02:27:06 PM

Smith was open ... the play worked ... Garcia/Smith didn't get it done
Garcia is roughly the 20th highest paid quarterback in the NFL and Alex Smith makes near the league minimum. Maybe the Bucs should lean on their higher paid/pedigreed players.

What?   They're in the game to get the job done ... period ... and high school kids are capable of completing that play

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#17 : December 11, 2008, 02:27:27 PM

Smith was open ... the play worked ... Garcia/Smith didn't get it done


It's Thursday for crying out loud.  When are you guys going to get over it and move on?


If the play call worked, we would have had 7


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#18 : December 11, 2008, 02:30:00 PM

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#19 : December 11, 2008, 02:31:46 PM

Smith was open ... the play worked ... Garcia/Smith didn't get it done
Garcia is roughly the 20th highest paid quarterback in the NFL and Alex Smith makes near the league minimum. Maybe the Bucs should lean on their higher paid/pedigreed players.

What?   They're in the game to get the job done ... period ... and high school kids are capable of completing that play
Players get paid a lot and/or drafted high because they're supposed to be good. Why depend on success from your lesser players and not give your top players a chance to succeed?

FRG is the most logical poster on this board.  You guys just don\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.

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#20 : December 11, 2008, 02:32:04 PM

Smith was open ... the play worked ... Garcia/Smith didn't get it done


It's Thursday for crying out loud.  When are you guys going to get over it and move on?


If the play call worked, we would have had 7


No, if the guys executed we sould have 7 ... the play was there .... he can't throw it and catch it too ... geez you guys are ridiculous ....

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#21 : December 11, 2008, 02:33:48 PM

Smith was open ... the play worked ... Garcia/Smith didn't get it done
Garcia is roughly the 20th highest paid quarterback in the NFL and Alex Smith makes near the league minimum. Maybe the Bucs should lean on their higher paid/pedigreed players.

What?   They're in the game to get the job done ... period ... and high school kids are capable of completing that play
Players get paid a lot and/or drafted high because they're supposed to be good. Why depend on success from your lesser players and not give your top players a chance to succeed?


Give me a break ... both Garcia and Smith have had plenty of success and on plays like that along the goal line I might add .... these guys weren't just signed off the street last week ... give it a rest ... like I said if Gru ran it 3 times up the middle the whiners would be complaining that we didn't try a PA.

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#22 : December 11, 2008, 02:35:19 PM

Smith was open ... the play worked ... Garcia/Smith didn't get it done


It's Thursday for crying out loud.  When are you guys going to get over it and move on?


If the play call worked, we would have had 7


No, if the guys executed we sould have 7 ... the play was there .... he can't throw it and catch it too ... geez you guys are ridiculous ....

Execution risk is part of the playcall


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#23 : December 11, 2008, 02:44:53 PM


1st down. Nothing wrong with passing the ball here. Alex Smith was not wide open like was stated in the other thread. As a matter of fact he was far from wide open. He was actually well covered, and Garcia only had one place to throw the ball to, and that was way out in front of Alex Smith. Garcia actually made the throw, circumstances dictated if the ball was caught it would have been a finger tip grab. Ball's flight pattern and Smith's body position required it to almost be a 1 handed catch. Smith didn't have much help in cradling the ball with his left hand, and is most likely why he wasn't able to grasp it.

Smith wasn't "wide open" in the sense that he was alone in the endzone but it was a play the combo of Garcia and Smith should have completed. Garcia had enough room on Smith's body to make the throw without a defender being able to knock the ball away and Smith approached the ball awkwardly with it out in front of him. It was definitely an attempt that should have worked.

Passing the ball on third down I thought was the right play. It appeared they were outside the 1 yard line and, particularly the way the Bucs have been running the ball, that was going to be a very long 1 yard. I do agree that Garcia bailed way too early and limited his looks to one or two guys.

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#24 : December 11, 2008, 03:04:13 PM

Smith was open ... the play worked ... Garcia/Smith didn't get it done


It's Thursday for crying out loud. When are you guys going to get over it and move on?


If the play call worked, we would have had 7


No, if the guys executed we sould have 7 ... the play was there .... he can't throw it and catch it too ... geez you guys are ridiculous ....

Execution risk is part of the playcall


not really ... execution is execution ... maybe you can question player development/coaching or whatever, but that play has been successful plenty of times ... no reason not to assume that the NFL QB can get it to the NFL TE and the NFL TE can catch it ... again this wasn't something crazy being called for two guys off the street ....


if we give it to Caddy on 1st down and the play gets blown up in the back field and he fumbles it away, was that a bad play call at that point ...

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#25 : December 11, 2008, 03:06:26 PM

if we give it to Caddy on 1st down and the play gets blown up in the back field and he fumbles it away, was that a bad play call at that point ...
By the same extension, wouldn't that be bad execution and not a bad play call?

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#26 : December 11, 2008, 03:07:02 PM

if we give it to Caddy on 1st down and the play gets blown up in the back field and he fumbles it away, was that a bad play call at that point ...
By the same extension, wouldn't that be bad execution and not a bad play call?


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#27 : December 11, 2008, 03:10:21 PM

if we give it to Caddy on 1st down and the play gets blown up in the back field and he fumbles it away, was that a bad play call at that point ...

So by that logic, the pass on first down was a bad call at that point, right? Because if not, then Caddy fumbling would not be a bad call at that point like you say, but bad execution, like you say..

See the paradox there?

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#28 : December 11, 2008, 03:13:01 PM

if we give it to Caddy on 1st down and the play gets blown up in the back field and he fumbles it away, was that a bad play call at that point ...
By the same extension, wouldn't that be bad execution and not a bad play call?


bingo ....
Then why have a coach? If the players fail it's their fault for not executing, anyways.

FRG is the most logical poster on this board.  You guys just don\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.

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#29 : December 11, 2008, 03:14:50 PM

Smith was open ... the play worked ... Garcia/Smith didn't get it done


It's Thursday for crying out loud. When are you guys going to get over it and move on?


If the play call worked, we would have had 7


No, if the guys executed we sould have 7 ... the play was there .... he can't throw it and catch it too ... geez you guys are ridiculous ....

Execution risk is part of the playcall


not really ... execution is execution ... maybe you can question player development/coaching or whatever, but that play has been successful plenty of times ... no reason not to assume that the NFL QB can get it to the NFL TE and the NFL TE can catch it ... again this wasn't something crazy being called for two guys off the street ....


if we give it to Caddy on 1st down and the play gets blown up in the back field and he fumbles it away, was that a bad play call at that point ...

Gruden could dial up Grads throwing bombs to Galloway on a fly route all day long, but if Grads continues to miss them because he has no arm, do you blame that all on his execution?  

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