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Quote from: DexJax10 on December 20, 2008, 09:56:17 AMQuote from: John Galt? on December 19, 2008, 12:23:52 PMQuote from: DexJax10 on December 19, 2008, 12:54:08 AMI think Jon makes a run at Tim...Urban and Jon are close (Notre Dame connection) and he will get an insiders look at what he can doWhen Tim comes out I think Jon's eye will be on #15 from UFOnly 3 INTs in 13 games is something that would catch JG's eyes. But I don't think he'll have a shot at him. Detroit, KC, Minny, Maybe NYJ, SF, are all in need of a QB and all draft ahead of us.I dont think they take Tebow though. Thats the thing hes such an unknown risk that some teams may want to pass and get more of a sure thing...or maight wait to see if he falls to them in round 2He is not a bigger risk than Mike Williams, Charles Rogers, Joey Harrington, Sylvester Morris, Troy Williamson, Alex Smith, Mike Nugent (seriously a kicker as your first pick??)...Also, don't discount Oakland taking a stab at him. Crazy Al is likely to do anything.
Quote from: John Galt? on December 19, 2008, 12:23:52 PMQuote from: DexJax10 on December 19, 2008, 12:54:08 AMI think Jon makes a run at Tim...Urban and Jon are close (Notre Dame connection) and he will get an insiders look at what he can doWhen Tim comes out I think Jon's eye will be on #15 from UFOnly 3 INTs in 13 games is something that would catch JG's eyes. But I don't think he'll have a shot at him. Detroit, KC, Minny, Maybe NYJ, SF, are all in need of a QB and all draft ahead of us.I dont think they take Tebow though. Thats the thing hes such an unknown risk that some teams may want to pass and get more of a sure thing...or maight wait to see if he falls to them in round 2
Quote from: DexJax10 on December 19, 2008, 12:54:08 AMI think Jon makes a run at Tim...Urban and Jon are close (Notre Dame connection) and he will get an insiders look at what he can doWhen Tim comes out I think Jon's eye will be on #15 from UFOnly 3 INTs in 13 games is something that would catch JG's eyes. But I don't think he'll have a shot at him. Detroit, KC, Minny, Maybe NYJ, SF, are all in need of a QB and all draft ahead of us.
I think Jon makes a run at Tim...Urban and Jon are close (Notre Dame connection) and he will get an insiders look at what he can doWhen Tim comes out I think Jon's eye will be on #15 from UF
Quote from: Rowdie on December 19, 2008, 02:11:35 PMQuote from: Biggs3535 on December 19, 2008, 11:52:44 AMQuote from: Rowdie on December 19, 2008, 10:55:04 AMIt's just hard to go from Urban's O to a pro style O. However, the kid seems really bright and I don't think an nfl contract to go to his head so, if someone can do it, why not tebow? Alex Smith's problems aren't transferring to a Pro-Style Offense. His arm strength is questionable and he has a problem holding onto the ball. Two things that won't be a deterrent for Tebow.It remains to be seen if Tebow will be able to read a Pro-Style defense, although the Alabama game was a pretty good measuring stick.Wait, did he just develop those issues when he got drafted? 'cause if not I guess the problem would still be from going to a prostyle O since those issue didn't seem to bother him at Utah. It doesn't matter what type of offense the player runs, he either has a good arm or he doesn't. Smith doesn't have that strong of an arm and Tebow does. There really isn't much of a debate about that.
Quote from: Biggs3535 on December 19, 2008, 11:52:44 AMQuote from: Rowdie on December 19, 2008, 10:55:04 AMIt's just hard to go from Urban's O to a pro style O. However, the kid seems really bright and I don't think an nfl contract to go to his head so, if someone can do it, why not tebow? Alex Smith's problems aren't transferring to a Pro-Style Offense. His arm strength is questionable and he has a problem holding onto the ball. Two things that won't be a deterrent for Tebow.It remains to be seen if Tebow will be able to read a Pro-Style defense, although the Alabama game was a pretty good measuring stick.Wait, did he just develop those issues when he got drafted? 'cause if not I guess the problem would still be from going to a prostyle O since those issue didn't seem to bother him at Utah.
Quote from: Rowdie on December 19, 2008, 10:55:04 AMIt's just hard to go from Urban's O to a pro style O. However, the kid seems really bright and I don't think an nfl contract to go to his head so, if someone can do it, why not tebow? Alex Smith's problems aren't transferring to a Pro-Style Offense. His arm strength is questionable and he has a problem holding onto the ball. Two things that won't be a deterrent for Tebow.It remains to be seen if Tebow will be able to read a Pro-Style defense, although the Alabama game was a pretty good measuring stick.
It's just hard to go from Urban's O to a pro style O. However, the kid seems really bright and I don't think an nfl contract to go to his head so, if someone can do it, why not tebow?
The question about running the offense is if a player can go through his reads in a defense. Smith hasn't struggled too much that, Vince Young has. It remains to be seen if Tebow will or will not have that problem. I don't know if Tebow is as smart a guy as Alex Smith, but I'm pretty sure he's smarter than Vince Young.
Exactly. Every college player is at best, a 50/50 shot at becoming a good NFL player.
Right so the arm strength didn't change, and Smith was great running his college offense and sucked at his pro offense, so how that's not problems adjusting to the pro style offense I guess will just remain a mystery to me 'cause it sure seems like that's pretty straight forward.
Quote from: Rowdie on December 23, 2008, 10:33:29 AMRight so the arm strength didn't change, and Smith was great running his college offense and sucked at his pro offense, so how that's not problems adjusting to the pro style offense I guess will just remain a mystery to me 'cause it sure seems like that's pretty straight forward. Smith doesn't suck at running his offense, he sucks at holding onto the ball and making the throws because of lack of arm strength.