Horrifying

[Stankhornia]

Here's a list of offensive skill position players drafted under Gruden's regime from Oakland to Tampa:

10 seasons worth

Jon Ritchie FB - 3rd round
Dameane Douglas WR - 4th round
Jerry Porter WR - 2nd round
Mondriel Fulcher TE - 7th round
Marques Tuiasosopo QB - 2nd round
Ken Yon Rambo WR - 7th round
Aaron Lockett WR - 7th round
Travis Stephens RB - 4th round
Marquise Walker WR - 3rd round
Chris Simms QB - 3rd round
Michael Clayton WR - 1st round
Nate Lawrie TE - 6th round
Mark Jones WR - 7th round
Casey Cramer FB - 7th round
Carnell Williams RB - 1st round
Alex Smith TE - 3rd round
Larry Brackins WR - 5th round
Rick Razzano FB - 7th round
Paris Warren WR - 7th round
JR Russell WR - 7th round
Maurice Stovall WR - 3rd round
Bruce Gradkowski QB - 6th round
TJ Williams TE - 6th round
Tim Massaquoi TE - 7th round
Kenneth Darby RB - 7th round
Dexter Jackson WR - 2nd round
Josh Johnson QB - 5th round
Cory Boyd RB - 7th round

Matt Millen thinks Jon Gruden sucks at evaluating talent.........

 

[mjs020294]

Nice list.....can we have a breakdown of which ones are playing in the Arena League, and who is at McDonalds?

[JasonOfthetower]

Puts it in perspective, doesn't it? For some reason, the scouting staffs at Oakland and Tampa Bay can't pick offensive talent.

[SHIVVER]

Zero Pro Bowlers, in 10 years.......  Ouch!

[mjs020294]

Zero Pro Bowlers, in 10 years.......  Ouch!

He pulls cool faces and has a great nickname though.

[oregonbucfan]

Jon Ritchie is the best... sad

[SHIVVER]

Dude, I'm a Gruden Honk, and this list scares the ISHT out of me.....

[TheChronicHotAir]

It's "by design".


If he drafts GREAT players, then the players get the credit.

He's such a GREAT COACH, he wants to prove to everyone that he can draft Joe-the-Plummer (or sign Jake-the-Plummer) and *dazzle* the whole NFL with his 'Geniusness'.



  [banghead]

[redbeard10]

That is a worrisome list, but it is also filled mainly with 6th and 7th round picks.

[mjs020294]

I think you guys are very unfair.  Caddy's jock from his first three games and Chris Simms's spleen are in the HoF.

[jerseybucsfan]

There is plenty of documentation that Gruden wanted Brian Westbrook instead of Travis Stephens and got shot down. JF has also stated numerous times that he is NOT calling all the shots under Allen. You really think Gruden would have left himself with this little offensive talent and all that cap space were it HIS choice?
That's ludicrous to think so. And yet you want to pin all these inept drafts on him. Whatever. Believe what you want to believe. No degree of truth will change your minds apparently.

[celler1210]

Dude go ahead and show the list of players that McKay/Dungy drafted--not Wyche or any of the older regime.. I'll give you Dunn.

[mjs020294]

Dude go ahead and show the list of players that McKay/Dungy drafted--not Wyche or any of the older regime.. I'll give you Dunn.

What does that have to do with anything?  Who cares about Dungy, he wasn't very good and he is GONE.

Concentrate on the current coach and the quality of the product on the filed or lack thereof.....its the only thing that matters.

[jerseybucsfan]

The list didn't exactly concentrate on that, did it? What relevance does Oakland's choices have to Gruden in Tampa Bay now? ZERO. So you're playing both sides of the fence.

[anterrabae33]

10 picks in the 3rd round and under out of 28 ( I think)
One was OROY (Injuries broke what could have been)
Clayton had a great first season (Then he realized he had money and didn't have to play hard)
Ritchie played for two teams that got (didn't win) to the Super Bowl before his career was ended by an injury

I'm just saying it's not like he had prime picks and when he did he made some moves that really could have played out differently.
Then look at the non-skill players. Look at our O-Line. Look at the defensive picks.
He's not the worst at drafting is all I'm saying