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: January 17, 2009, 07:46:08 AM

If he had started Luke McCown at the beginning of the season, and missed the playoffs, he would have an understandable excuse and would still be HC. Garcia killed any chance he had. We can now expect two or three mediocre seasons before any chance being competitive again. The biggest mistake for the owners was firing Allen. Does McCown now follow Gruden to his next team since he loves him so much?

At least we now have a foundation of young players on offense and defense to build on.

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#1 : January 17, 2009, 07:52:11 AM

Gruden's biggest mistake was attaching his wagon to Allen. 

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#2 : January 17, 2009, 08:27:40 AM

At least we now have a foundation of young players on offense and defense to build on.

Yeah this is the problem, we don't. Who is this foundation you speak of?

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#3 : January 17, 2009, 09:22:18 AM

Gruden's biggest mistake was attaching his wagon to Allen. 
Agreed. When McKay left, Gruden basically said he could do a better job building a roster. He couldn't.

FRG is the most logical poster on this board.  You guys just don\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.

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#4 : January 17, 2009, 09:37:34 AM

No. Gruden's biggest mistake was sticking with Grads for 13 games (a couple of years ago). He lost the lockerroom at that point and never quite got full crdibility back with the players or organization.

This season his mistakes started y alienating his QB in training camp.

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#5 : January 17, 2009, 09:38:57 AM

If he had started Luke McCown at the beginning of the season, and missed the playoffs, he would have an understandable excuse and would still be HC. Garcia killed any chance he had. We can now expect two or three mediocre seasons before any chance being competitive again. The biggest mistake for the owners was firing Allen. Does McCown now follow Gruden to his next team since he loves him so much?

At least we now have a foundation of young players on offense and defense to build on.

No, actually, if McGump12 would have started since week 1, Gruden & Allen would have been fired 3 weeks ago (the day after the season ended).







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#6 : January 17, 2009, 09:39:40 AM

His problem was Rich Gannon and Jerry Rice. He went dumpster diving and got huge returns and kept trying to reproduce that magic here.

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#7 : January 17, 2009, 10:12:05 AM

Grudens biggest problem, was John Gruden !!!

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#8 : January 17, 2009, 10:13:04 AM

Biggest mistake was his obsession with Griese.

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#9 : January 17, 2009, 10:14:45 AM

His biggest mistake was attempting to win with veteran players at key positions.

His luckiest break was coming to Tampa to receive a free Lombardi trophy thanks to the Defense and Monte Kiffin.
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