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#30 : January 27, 2009, 12:42:22 PM

interesting background info...i thought people were too quick to assume that just because an assistant coach is working under a coordinator who runs "system x" and has the players to run that system, that assistant will automatically run "system x" when he gets his chance.  if i believed in a pass-heavy offense, i wouldn't thumb my nose at a job working under a run-first coordinator if that was the only guaranteed opportunity in front of me...

based on the info you provided, DTG, it sounds like he has solid credentials in running a ground-based attack, which is appealing to me.....considering that the new coordinator will inherit a full house of offensive assistants, it makes sense that we don't go after a high profile guy who will want to clean house and isn't willing to work with mann, mangurian, olson, and company

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#31 : January 27, 2009, 12:51:18 PM

I'd like the idea of giving Johnson his shot with the Bucs.

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#32 : January 27, 2009, 02:52:09 PM

Johnson=M.Shula..... Forget it...Click

You come to this conclusion exactly... how?

I mean, according to many years ago, Marvin Lewis = Tony Dungy...

Turk , you remember (Dungy era)  Bucs run 25/30 times a game and people wanted blood.  Bring back a run offense and a ,don't lose the game , passing offense and people here will go bonkers. 

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#33 : January 27, 2009, 02:53:28 PM

Turk , you remember (Dungy era)  Bucs run 25/30 times a game and people wanted blood.  Bring back a run offense and a ,don't lose the game , passing offense and people here will go bonkers. 

Ummm, please describe what makes Craig Johnson = Mike Shula. You stated they're the same guy. I'd like you to expound on what about their coaching makes them so similar.

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#34 : January 27, 2009, 04:01:27 PM

Young can play pretty good in my opinion.

His problems don't really seem to be from mechanics or coaching or anything like that but more of a mental thing.


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#35 : January 28, 2009, 12:26:58 AM

Honestly, I know I'm going to fall in love with whomever the choice is in the end anyway. But I happen to think the Bucs have had Chan Gailey peged as the next OC for a while now. I believe they have been in contact with either him or his agent to figure out who or what he would like in terms of supporting staff and have been working to fill those spots in the mean time. If it's not Gailey, an lesser known guy like Craig Johnson wouldn't be in a position to demand (or hand pick) his staff anyway. Either way I'm excited about what's happening.

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#36 : January 28, 2009, 08:55:31 AM

DTG, do you have any insite on why the WR coach Mann was retained?

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#37 : January 28, 2009, 11:15:10 AM

Honestly, I know I'm going to fall in love with whomever the choice is in the end anyway. But I happen to think the Bucs have had Chan Gailey peged as the next OC for a while now. I believe they have been in contact with either him or his agent to figure out who or what he would like in terms of supporting staff and have been working to fill those spots in the mean time. If it's not Gailey, an lesser known guy like Craig Johnson wouldn't be in a position to demand (or hand pick) his staff anyway. Either way I'm excited about what's happening.

Doc:

There could be some truth in your theory.

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#38 : January 28, 2009, 11:18:00 AM

DTG, do you have any insite on why the WR coach Mann was retained?

Coach Mann has a lot of respect on this team. Some don't blame his coaching as much as the other problems such as poor choices (Stovall, Jackson) or poor offensive design/execution and the HC's doghouse for the failure of others. Recall that some guys have had some pretty good seasons under Coach Mann.

That's really about all I know, nothing too specific.

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#39 : January 28, 2009, 02:59:16 PM

Honestly, I know I'm going to fall in love with whomever the choice is in the end anyway. But I happen to think the Bucs have had Chan Gailey peged as the next OC for a while now. I believe they have been in contact with either him or his agent to figure out who or what he would like in terms of supporting staff and have been working to fill those spots in the mean time. If it's not Gailey, an lesser known guy like Craig Johnson wouldn't be in a position to demand (or hand pick) his staff anyway. Either way I'm excited about what's happening.

Doc:

There could be some truth in your theory.

I'm also of the camp that they're waiting to see what happens with Gailey. If Gailey is retained they may go Johnson or Zampese.  Didn't Olson have his play calling duties stripped by Linehan when he was with the Rams?


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#40 : January 28, 2009, 05:29:36 PM

If we really want to run the football, we have to be able to throw downfield. 


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#41 : January 29, 2009, 12:28:47 AM

Honestly, I know I'm going to fall in love with whomever the choice is in the end anyway. But I happen to think the Bucs have had Chan Gailey peged as the next OC for a while now. I believe they have been in contact with either him or his agent to figure out who or what he would like in terms of supporting staff and have been working to fill those spots in the mean time. If it's not Gailey, an lesser known guy like Craig Johnson wouldn't be in a position to demand (or hand pick) his staff anyway. Either way I'm excited about what's happening.

Doc:

There could be some truth in your theory.

I'm also of the camp that they're waiting to see what happens with Gailey. If Gailey is retained they may go Johnson or Zampese. Didn't Olson have his play calling duties stripped by Linehan when he was with the Rams?
DTG: It's intriguing to say the least. I like alot of what Rah had to say in his interview. I like that he said he enjoys interviewing the candidates cause it give him an opportunity to learn from each of them. I know I'm in the minority, but I'm begining to think that the HC position is going to allow Rah to focus on the personnel he loves so much, and not have to get caught up in the X's and O's of the team. I believe a guy like Gailey or even Johnson will have the opportunity to come in here and impliment their system and Rah is going to give them all the support they need. I think, If the players buy into Rah, they will buy into his coaching staff..... As long as they prove to be dedicated to their craft.

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#42 : January 29, 2009, 10:31:38 AM

DTG: It's intriguing to say the least. I like alot of what Rah had to say in his interview. I like that he said he enjoys interviewing the candidates cause it give him an opportunity to learn from each of them. I know I'm in the minority, but I'm begining to think that the HC position is going to allow Rah to focus on the personnel he loves so much, and not have to get caught up in the X's and O's of the team. I believe a guy like Gailey or even Johnson will have the opportunity to come in here and impliment their system and Rah is going to give them all the support they need. I think, If the players buy into Rah, they will buy into his coaching staff..... As long as they prove to be dedicated to their craft.

Coach Gruden was immersed in the details of the offensive side of the football, which was a positive for the team in 2002, since that's what they needed. Had Dungy retained a top-flight OC and let him work, he likely would have remained the HC here. However, Coach's immersion in the offense was to the detriment of the team in the end, as we all saw.

On the other hand, Coach Morris will not steep himself so much in either side of the ball that he can't be the catalyst of energy the players often need. Coach Morris will delegate a lot of the X's and O's to the experts who know more about it than he does. Instead, my take is that he'll be the motivator and the leader and will allow the experts to do their more detailed jobs.
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