News and Notes (Plummer, Schaub, Steinbach)

schaub is severely OVER-RATED! What has he done in the NFL to make so many posters here want him so bad?

Scott Mitchell, anyone?

How about A.J. Feeley?

(in "6 Degrees of Kevin Bacon:" style)...JAY FEIDLER!

On the other hand...Matt Hasselbeck.

This is true.  Orrr...Jacque Delhomme.

[Skull and Bones]

Mark Eckel of the Trenton Times says he "wouldn't be surprised" if the Packers go after Matt Schaub if Brett Favre retires.

Anyone else find it funny/ironic how Favre was a backup QB in ATL before the Packers picked him up?

ummmmm, no, not really...

I find it funny that Farve actually failed the physical exam for that trade and the doctor told the Packers that he would maybe play 5 years tops.  Ron Wolf still went ahead with it and Farve hasn't missed a game in 15 years.

schaub is severely OVER-RATED! What has he done in the NFL to make so many posters here want him so bad?

Scott Mitchell, anyone?

How about A.J. Feeley?

(in "6 Degrees of Kevin Bacon:" style)...JAY FEIDLER!

On the other hand...Matt Hasselbeck.

Schaub is Rob Johnson part two in the making.

Or maybe he's Jay Cutler part 2. Or maybe he's Ben Roethlisberger part 2. Philip Rivers part 2.

People havent been pimping Schaub because of the New England game. I don't even remember what game that was. Schaub has all the tools, and ever since about 1 full year into the league most people in league circles knew he was a steal in round 3 and was also in an offense where he would NEVER get a shot at competing for the starting job. Ask Gruden what he thinks of Schaub. He thinks very highly  of him, and he should. He fits Grudens system to a tee, he showed his abilities in this system in college.

Of course any player 'could' be Rob JOhnson, or 'could' be anyone until they 'are' someone. Vince YOung couldve been Akili Smith last year if you talked to a lot of people, but maybe now those same people call him Steve Young or Steve McNair.



btw, Eric Steinbach is from a town about 35 miles outside of Chicago (think Hudson to Tampa) and it makes A LOT of sense for him to go to Da Bears if the Bengals dont resign him

I don't think VY is either Young nor McNair....

schaub is severely OVER-RATED! What has he done in the NFL to make so many posters here want him so bad?

Scott Mitchell, anyone?

How about A.J. Feeley?

(in "6 Degrees of Kevin Bacon:" style)...JAY FEIDLER!

[Pick6]

if you look at it objectively, schaub hasn't even been as good as rattay as a career spot-starter. 4-12 makes fans want to do crazy things, like trade silly picks for a guy who hasn't even been as good as a guy we can't wait to see the back of...

totally missing the point. I never once in this thread said the Bucs should trade for Schaub. The discussion revolved around his skill set and opinions on how good of a QB he is or isn't.

i never implied that you did.  the other post i quoted asked why so many fans wanted to trade for schaub, i was basically putting my 2 cents in that it's a difficult position to objectively justify .  as for schaub's skill set and how good he is, IMO the hard facts people have on schaub don't justify him being put too far from tim rattay on the NFL QB totem pole.

just trying to respond to 2 points in 1 post.

The Bengals and free agent offensive lineman Eric Steinbach are expected to begin contract talks in the coming days.

Steinbach is said to be Cincinnati's top offseason priority, but is "sure to visit Chicago and Cleveland" if a deal can't be reached. The Bills have also been mentioned as possible suitors for the versatile Steinbach.
http://www.daytondailynews.com/s/content/oh/story/sports/pro/bengals/2007/01/27/ddn012707inside.html

The Akron Beacon Journal suggests the Browns may wait until Jake Plummer is released after June 1 by the Broncos.

It's suggested as a "best option" move. Cleveland may not be willing to trade much for Plummer, whereas Houston would seem more likely to give up something with marginal value, possibly a fourth-round pick.
http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/sports/football/nfl/cleveland_browns/16565752.htm

Mark Eckel of the Trenton Times says he "wouldn't be surprised" if the Packers go after Matt Schaub if Brett Favre retires.

Lot of "ifs" here, and the Packers' organization seems set on Aaron Rodgers as Favre's eventual successor. Schaub is more likely to stay with Atlanta following Mike Vick's incident at Miami International Airport.
http://www.nj.com/columns/times/eckel/index.ssf?/base/columns-0/11699607088420.xml&coll=5&thispage=2

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schaub is severely OVER-RATED!  What has he done in the NFL to make so many posters here want him so bad?

[keeponbucn]

schaub is severely OVER-RATED!  What has he done in the NFL to make so many posters here want him so bad?

He's never had the chance. In spot duty he's already proven to have pocket presence than Herpy and the WR's don't have stone hands once Schaub is throwing to them. He's pretty accurate with the pill as well.

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that's only spot duty keeponbucn. the hillarious thing about Schaub is people on this board have been mentioning him for 2 years now, when he's never played more then garbage time.  Its not as if he stepped in like Garcia in Philly and led ATL to several victories while Vick was hurt for a prolonged period. Hell, has he even started a single game for Atlanta?  Its hilarious, like when people were comparing Brackins to Moss and people were calling Razzano the Razzmanian devil.  Why?  Based on what? People will latch onto a name and squeeze all they can out of it. 

[alldaway]

Schaub is Rob Johnson part two in the making. 

[keeponbucn]

that's only spot duty keeponbucn. the hillarious thing about Schaub is people on this board have been mentioning him for 2 years now, when he's never played more then garbage time. Its not as if he stepped in like Garcia in Philly and led ATL to several victories while Vick was hurt for a prolonged period. Hell, has he even started a single game for Atlanta? Its hilarious, like when people were comparing Brackins to Moss and people were calling Razzano the Razzmanian devil. Why? Based on what? People will latch onto a name and squeeze all they can out of it.

I with ya but IMO he's never had the chance. Yes, he started 1 time against the Pats last year and threw for 300yrds. The reson's he's only played in garbage time is because Vick is un-benchable due to his contract. It's simple, if the Falcons honestly had an open competition for that position Schuab would win easily. Trust me on that.

[stereochemistry]

schaub is severely OVER-RATED! What has he done in the NFL to make so many posters here want him so bad?

He's never had the chance. In spot duty he's already proven to have pocket presence than Herpy and the WR's don't have stone hands once Schaub is throwing to them. He's pretty accurate with the pill as well.

Pretty accurate?  He's got a lower career completion% than Vick does.

He's looked great in ONE game, the NE game.  And we've all seen how young, unknown QBs can play when they first start out, only to fall apart when game film becomes available.  He's got as much potential as any young, inexperianced QB, but the world beater status that he's been given based on his paltry career is ridiculous.

[ABuccs Fan]

schaub is severely OVER-RATED!  What has he done in the NFL to make so many posters here want him so bad?

that's only spot duty keeponbucn. the hillarious thing about Schaub is people on this board have been mentioning him for 2 years now, when he's never played more then garbage time.  Its not as if he stepped in like Garcia in Philly and led ATL to several victories while Vick was hurt for a prolonged period. Hell, has he even started a single game for Atlanta?  Its hilarious, like when people were comparing Brackins to Moss and people were calling Razzano the Razzmanian devil.  Why?  Based on what? People will latch onto a name and squeeze all they can out of it. 

Because he pancaked 300 lb. D-linemen in 2 preseason games. ...and made Zach Thomas look like a paper bag when he blew him up and knocked him on his ass for 6 yards.

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schaub is severely OVER-RATED! What has he done in the NFL to make so many posters here want him so bad?

He's never had the chance. In spot duty he's already proven to have pocket presence than Herpy and the WR's don't have stone hands once Schaub is throwing to them. He's pretty accurate with the pill as well.

well, in spot duty, Grads looked pretty good in pre-season too...

spot duty means nothing...

no way would I mortgage the farm for a guy who has only seen spot duty in the NFL...