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« : May 11, 2009, 06:57:25 AM »
#3 Jon Gruden

This should bring some good discussion
Quote from: Raheem Morris
We got to get better at doing something, and that is what we have to set our focus on and that is something to get better at. That\\\\\\\'s what we are trying to do right now.

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« #1 : May 11, 2009, 06:59:46 AM »
Yep
                \'Every day above ground is a good day\'

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« #2 : May 11, 2009, 07:02:01 AM »
Quote from: Buc Wylde on May 11, 2009, 06:57:25 AM
#3 Jon Gruden

OF ALL TIME!     


It's an honor to have been a Buc fan when he was here.

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« #3 : May 11, 2009, 07:06:59 AM »
It was from NFL Network.  Here's the list.

1. Vince Lombardi
2. **CENSORED** Vermeil
3. John Gruden
4. Marty Schottenheimer
5. George Allen
6. Bill Cowher
7. Bill Parcells
8. Hank Stram
9. Sam Wyche
10. Bum Phillips


Glad to see Wyche on that list as well.   I always thought he got a bum deal in Tampa.   He was a good coach.   

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« #4 : May 11, 2009, 07:23:25 AM »
Quote from: Java on May 11, 2009, 07:06:59 AM
It was from NFL Network. Here's the list.

1. Vince Lombardi
2. **CENSORED** Vermeil
3. John Gruden
4. Marty Schottenheimer
5. George Allen
6. Bill Cowher
7. Bill Parcells
8. Hank Stram
9. Sam Wyche
10. Bum Phillips


Glad to see Wyche on that list as well. I always thought he got a bum deal in Tampa. He was a good coach.

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« #5 : May 11, 2009, 08:27:30 AM »
Motivational at what? Schottenheimer is motivational? At what choking and dying? I could basically say the same thing about Gruden but he found the nut one time.
All posts are opinions in case you are too stupid to figure that out on your own without me saying it over and over.

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« #6 : May 11, 2009, 08:47:15 AM »
Gruden could motivate a winning team, but he couldn't motivate when things were down.  I don't think he belongs on that list.

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« #7 : May 11, 2009, 08:55:32 AM »
Why do you necessarily have to be wrong just because a few million people think you are?

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« #8 : May 11, 2009, 08:58:29 AM »
Gruden sure as heck motivated a franchise turn around in Oakland...Yeah, Gruden only had one good season  ::)

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« #9 : May 11, 2009, 09:04:19 AM »
Bucs were 9-3 until Monte turned traitor.   If Raheem starts out 9-3 this year, I'll say he's a better motivator than Gruden.

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« #10 : May 11, 2009, 09:34:35 AM »
Quote from: Java on May 11, 2009, 09:04:19 AM
Bucs were 9-3 until Monte turned traitor.   

Great example of what I was speaking of.  Once all the business with Monte started Gruden was incapable of motivating the team to keep going.

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« #11 : May 11, 2009, 09:35:30 AM »
Gruden is a hell of a coach...I think were going to realize after the next couple of years just how good he was with what he worked with.  
Bring back GRUDEN!!!

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« #12 : May 11, 2009, 09:42:14 AM »
Quote from: DA954BADBOY on May 11, 2009, 07:23:25 AM
Quote from: Java on May 11, 2009, 07:06:59 AM
It was from NFL Network. Here's the list.

1. Vince Lombardi
2. **CENSORED** Vermeil
3. John Gruden
4. Marty Schottenheimer
5. George Allen
6. Bill Cowher
7. Bill Parcells
8. Hank Stram
9. Sam Wyche
10. Bum Phillips


Glad to see Wyche on that list as well. I always thought he got a bum deal in Tampa. He was a good coach.

AGREED

I actually like this list.  Gruden motivated that first Bucs team to win a Super Bowl in year one.  He also rebuilt the Raiders quickly and made them a contender - so much so that the year he left his old team also made the Super Bowl.  The other coaches are no slouches either.  I am a little surpriised by Bum Philips at number 10.  I would think Tom Landry would be higher than him.  I love Marty as he brought so many teams to the playoffs no matter where he was.  Even Sam Wyche was an amazing coach.  People forget but he got the Bucs to 7-9 from horrible within three years in Tampa, and drafted some of the key defenders that became the cornerstone of the franchise for years to come.

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« #13 : May 11, 2009, 09:43:14 AM »
Quote from: bradentonian on May 11, 2009, 09:34:35 AM
Quote from: Java on May 11, 2009, 09:04:19 AM
Bucs were 9-3 until Monte turned traitor.  

Great example of what I was speaking of.  Once all the business with Monte started Gruden was incapable of motivating the team to keep going.

Ya, but that all would have changed with a new year.  How often does your defensive coordinator leave you to go coach with his son in the middle of the year?   Morris' secondary players didn't seem to be motivated by Morris those last games either.

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« #14 : May 11, 2009, 09:45:41 AM »
Who is Gruden motivating this football season?
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