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#15 : May 21, 2009, 09:10:01 PM

Ok rule 10+ years ago. Now? Not so much.

Mike Tomlin disagrees.

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#16 : May 22, 2009, 01:37:58 AM

I may be wrong but, off the top of my head, I can only think of one minority GM in the league. So the rule would probably be a good idea until the ratio is more representative of the player population as a whole, like with the NBA. If anything, it will force the league to explore more talent rather than just recycling the same old execs.

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#17 : May 22, 2009, 01:38:50 AM

Ok rule 10+ years ago. Now? Not so much.

Mike Tomlin disagrees.

Mike Tomlin didn't win the Superbowl.

**CENSORED** Lebeau and the Big Ben/Santonio Holmes did.



Personally, the whole Raheem Morris hiring was pre-mature at best.


I sense a major Knee-jerk reaction to the thought of Raheem being the HC for the Broncos. Hopefully Bates and Jags can run this team and keep Rah around for the Cheerleading.


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#18 : May 22, 2009, 02:01:36 AM

I may be wrong but, off the top of my head, I can only think of one minority GM in the league. So the rule would probably be a good idea until the ratio is more representative of the player population as a whole, like with the NBA. If anything, it will force the league to explore more talent rather than just recycling the same old execs.

So since blacks make better athletes, they also make better front office personnel?   Just curious, where do non-blacks fit in?    Are they allowed to work as well?   I always thought we all had different skills.  Just because a person can run faster than another doesn't make him a better businessman.   To say the number of GM's should be representative of the "player population" is ridiculous.   If the number of black GM's was equal to the % of blacks in the general population, that would make sense.  But to say equal to the player population is nuts.

Why don't they just pass a rule that all coaches, players, owners, front office personnel, radio and tv analysts, and anyone else associated with the NFL have to be black.   But let some of the cheerleaders remain white.  That doesn't seem to be a problem - yet. 

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#19 : May 22, 2009, 03:29:37 AM

I may be wrong but, off the top of my head, I can only think of one minority GM in the league. So the rule would probably be a good idea until the ratio is more representative of the player population as a whole, like with the NBA. If anything, it will force the league to explore more talent rather than just recycling the same old execs.

So since blacks make better athletes, they also make better front office personnel?   Just curious, where do non-blacks fit in?    Are they allowed to work as well?   I always thought we all had different skills.  Just because a person can run faster than another doesn't make him a better businessman.   To say the number of GM's should be representative of the "player population" is ridiculous.   If the number of black GM's was equal to the % of blacks in the general population, that would make sense.  But to say equal to the player population is nuts.

Why don't they just pass a rule that all coaches, players, owners, front office personnel, radio and tv analysts, and anyone else associated with the NFL have to be black.   But let some of the cheerleaders remain white.  That doesn't seem to be a problem - yet. 

Well, according to the model used by the NBA, they tend to believe that former players have a better understanding of the skill sets needed to play the sport and are a better judges of available talent than non-former players. If you want to carry that analogy over to the NFL, one former player GM (Matt Millen) was considered a total failure at the job. Another former player (Ozzie Newsome) is often referenced as one of the best GM's and evaluators of talent. So I guess the verdict is still out.

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#20 : May 22, 2009, 04:29:52 AM

I may be wrong but, off the top of my head, I can only think of one minority GM in the league. So the rule would probably be a good idea until the ratio is more representative of the player population as a whole, like with the NBA. If anything, it will force the league to explore more talent rather than just recycling the same old execs.

So since blacks make better athletes, they also make better front office personnel?   Just curious, where do non-blacks fit in?    Are they allowed to work as well?   I always thought we all had different skills.  Just because a person can run faster than another doesn't make him a better businessman.   To say the number of GM's should be representative of the "player population" is ridiculous.   If the number of black GM's was equal to the % of blacks in the general population, that would make sense.  But to say equal to the player population is nuts.

Why don't they just pass a rule that all coaches, players, owners, front office personnel, radio and tv analysts, and anyone else associated with the NFL have to be black.   But let some of the cheerleaders remain white.  That doesn't seem to be a problem - yet. 

Java I get your point. People want to mis construed it to make it sound like your hating... Rooney rule is outdated. Racial handicap is disgusting to me.


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#21 : May 22, 2009, 08:54:50 AM

You think these unfailr hiring practices would stop after Obammy was elected.  Come on give a white brother a break.

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#22 : May 22, 2009, 08:57:25 AM

Ok rule 10+ years ago. Now? Not so much.

Mike Tomlin disagrees.

Mike Tomlin didn't win the Superbowl.

**CENSORED** Lebeau and the Big Ben/Santonio Holmes did.



Personally, the whole Raheem Morris hiring was pre-mature at best.


I sense a major Knee-jerk reaction to the thought of Raheem being the HC for the Broncos. Hopefully Bates and Jags can run this team and keep Rah around for the Cheerleading.

FYI  - Tomlin won the SB with Cowher's team. 

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#23 : May 22, 2009, 11:49:30 AM

Tomlin would've gotten that interview without that rule. He was one of the hottest names out there and it wasn't because he was a black coach... it was because he was a good coach.

It's an outdated rule. The Glazers didn't interview any white coaches before hiring Raheem? Are people freaking out about that?

People see what they WANT to see.

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#24 : May 22, 2009, 12:32:31 PM



It's an outdated rule. The Glazers didn't interview any white coaches before hiring Raheem? Are people freaking out about that?



Sure they did. It probably went something like this, "Hey Tuna, we know you left us standing at the alter twice before but we decided to make a coaching change and we thought third times a charm. Do you think you might be interested in the job?....CLICK......hello....Bill?....you still there?"



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#25 : May 22, 2009, 12:34:38 PM

It's an outdated rule. The Glazers didn't interview any white coaches before hiring Raheem? Are people freaking out about that?

Hell yea. Have you not read the board?

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#26 : May 22, 2009, 12:58:15 PM

I think it is a bad rule for hiring GMs.  Now with the head coaching positions, if a team wants a certain head coach they are going to go after that head coach full steam.  They'll interview the "token" black guy just to meet the Rooney rule even if they have no intention in hiring him.

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#27 : May 22, 2009, 03:07:20 PM

This is a dumb rule.  All the rule states is that you have to interview a mintority.


So If im a racist NFL owner, whats so bad about interviewing a black candidate and then telling him, "alright well we will let ya know"


If a black, white, yellow, maroonish colored person is the best candidate, than that is probably who the Owner is going to hire.

And I agree with PAC here. Did the Bucs interview a white candidate for coach before hiring Raheem?

It's 2009.  We have a White-black president.  Do people still think that a person won't get a job because of the color of their skin?  Yeah maybe if you are applying for V.P. of the KKK or Black Panther party, but aside from that, you should be alright.
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