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#285 : April 02, 2010, 07:01:57 AM

I normally try to stay out of the more intense conversations regarding the Progressive/Socialist/Communist evaluations.  But - if one objectively looks at those philosophies for operating government it is fairly early on that one finds the basis for the atrocities that took place not just in Germany, Russia and China.  Nor does one have to look far to find other people with the same beliefs in governmental control of citizenry in other countries who agree with what most call atrocities - and await the chance to move such beliefs forward.  Whether that includes abortion, genocide, mercy killing/euthanasia or some other name - it is all from a similar tenet that permits one to believe they are entitled to make such decisions or take such actions that would affect others.  Certainly something I disagree with vehemently - I struggle with an individual choice - but feel that is for the individual - but making the decision for others - no - just no.  Not in a Free Country, a Democracy, a Socialist or Communist society.

Millions died in Germany, tens of millions in Russia, and perhaps hundreds millions in China, atrocities continue in Europe, Africa, Asia... and perhaps other areas that would surprise where one man's thoughts seek to rule over another man's actions. 

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#286 : April 02, 2010, 07:40:49 AM

Isn't it interesting that the goal is at the very least the thing that caused the worst problem on earth - a socialist republic.

And how Ironic - that of ALL the socialist republic the one most often fawned over is the one that killed the MOST of it's own people...?

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#287 : April 02, 2010, 07:51:09 AM

Isn't it interesting that the goal is at the very least the thing that caused the worst problem on earth - a socialist republic.

And how Ironic - that of ALL the socialist republic the one most often fawned over is the one that killed the MOST of it's own people...?

Seriously dude. Most of Europe has some sort of socialistic elements in their structure and politics, and we don't kill our citizens.

If you don't wanna be like us, that's 100% acceptable but to say that you are moving towards a socialistic republic is a stupid statement.

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#288 : April 02, 2010, 07:51:39 AM

I am not saying that is the only genocidal cause - but rather it is almost a characteristic of that movement.  

Admire - look around - when you see the socialist movement the inclination is there - maybe not in practice, yet - but there nonetheless

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#289 : April 02, 2010, 03:47:40 PM

Isn't it interesting that the goal is at the very least the thing that caused the worst problem on earth - a socialist republic.

And how Ironic - that of ALL the socialist republic the one most often fawned over is the one that killed the MOST of it's own people...?

Seriously dude. Most of Europe has some sort of socialistic elements in their structure and politics, and we don't kill our citizens.

If you don't wanna be like us, that's 100% acceptable but to say that you are moving towards a socialistic republic is a stupid statement.

Reallly - this should be fun!

What do you think socialism is?

What do you call it when the government (tax-payers) bails-out financial institutions that only some use?

What do you call it when the government (funded by taxpayers) takes an ownership position of a private company and then forces the company to accept a labor union to it's board of director?

What do you call it when the government then spends more of taxpayer money to stimulate the economy - only things gets worse - so they double the national debt on a healthcare that the president and congress refuse to accept? How about when most of America is pleased with healthcare - we just don't like the cost due to regulations - so these guys over rule their own people and force a bankrupting program down our throats that sacrifices care for cost - in order to get their hands on the $12,000 per year that 120,000,000 Americans spend on healthcare?

If you're not from here - don't open your mouth - it's because of our military, for which you pay NOTHING - that you even have insurance anyway. You abrogated your responsibilities years ago - by both blood and US dollars - we have subsidized your health care.

We know what your system smells like - the MAJORITY of Americans do not want it.

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