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#15 : June 26, 2009, 09:17:36 AM

Gruden scripted plays and got cute after that??????You think he followed script exactly then just made plays up? Funny post bucin texas

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#16 : June 26, 2009, 09:57:34 AM


I dont see where the evidence is that the team is going to be bad next year. We have the same players on defense minus Jovan Haye who sucked last year, an old Derrick Brooks, and an over rated Cato June. We get a beast at LB in Crowell who is just rehabbing right now. Ok so I can see why you might say it because we have a new defense but the new defense is designed to help the defense get more pressure on the QB which we sucked at last year.


We get better by releasing the DT that sucked last year and replace him with one that was even worst than him, that’s getting better. Replace a Pro Bowler LB and replace him with one coming of a Knee surgery, I don't remember a LB that had a knee surgery and played better or at the same level he did before the injury, maybe I'm wrong. And that’s getting better. Bates defense is a hit and miss defense and we are going to give a lot of big plays and points, will also create more pressure and hope to cause more turnovers, not necessarily a better D.

The Offense could be better, but the defense has to be good for them to be good, it’s hard to be a run heavy team when you are trailing most of the time. It doesn't work that way. McGarbage couldn’t beat out a skill challenged 95yo Garcia even when he was injured, 2 project QB’s and 2 journeymen at the position doesn’t make it better. And they said JG collected QB’s. Huh.

That and the fact that none of the players have played this type of Offense and Defense, more likely half of the players will struggle making the adjustment, doesn’t make this team better at all. Maybe next year but I don't expect this team to contend, if they do great, but not even ownership is counting on that this year. That's why is called a re-building year not a get better year.

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#17 : June 26, 2009, 10:02:20 AM

Going 9-7 two seasons in a row, fading down the stretch both years, and showing no improvement and no real plan beyond "Let's plug the leaks for one more year"?  Yeah, that'll get you fired.

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#18 : June 26, 2009, 10:36:44 AM

What's sad is that Raheem Morris is basically being set up to fail by this ownership.

If the cap goes away next year, the Glazers are going to gut the team's payroll.

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#19 : June 26, 2009, 10:38:24 AM

Going 9-7 two seasons in a row, fading down the stretch both years, and showing no improvement and no real plan beyond "Let's plug the leaks for one more year"?  Yeah, that'll get you fired.

So, we have plugged all the leaks this year?

Why do you necessarily have to be wrong just because a few million people think you are?

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#20 : June 26, 2009, 10:42:43 AM

Going 9-7 two seasons in a row, fading down the stretch both years, and showing no improvement and no real plan beyond "Let's plug the leaks for one more year"?  Yeah, that'll get you fired.

So, we have plugged all the leaks this year?

Not only that, but most of the media say the Bucs have no plan and no direction.

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#21 : June 26, 2009, 11:26:13 AM

What's sad is that Raheem Morris is basically being set up to fail by this ownership.

If the cap goes away next year, the Glazers are going to gut the team's payroll.

The cap is going away, but the floor is going to remain. 

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#22 : June 26, 2009, 11:39:13 AM

What's sad is that Raheem Morris is basically being set up to fail by this ownership.

If the cap goes away next year, the Glazers are going to gut the team's payroll.

The cap is going away, but the floor is going to remain.

No, the floor goes away if/when the cap does.

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#23 : June 26, 2009, 11:47:07 AM

The key is no difference between Garcia and McClown/Leftwich. All the Garcia haters will see just how good we had it, if McClown/Lefty are starting

There is no difference. All Garcia did was manage the offense. He was no play maker. I will give him the play against the Chiefs last year to win the game. Whoever starts at QB this year will make just as much an impact as Garcia did if not more because of the offense and the players around them that Garcia didnt have around him last year. The real reason why you, LAC, and Java dont think the bucs will do well this year is because of the coaching change. Dont deny it. Its true. Theres a reason why the Glazers made him head coach besides money. He is the next up and comer coach in the league. Give him a chance!

Ok Jim, glad you know what I'm thinking.  The reason were garbage has more to do with the QB play than the coaching change.

Bring back GRUDEN!!!

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#24 : June 26, 2009, 12:06:25 PM


"Yeah and the thing is all the Bucs will need this year is a game manager at QB. �Last year that wasn't the case. �Heck it was never the case under Gruden's anemic offense. � I don't see the Bucs winning a bunch of games this year but I also don't see them having a December collapse. � �Gruden had his scripted plays then he tried to get cute after that. � I don't see Jags offense being so pathetic in the red zone and I don't see him giving up on the run after it's been successful in the first half. � �I think we'll see a Bucs team that doesn't settle for field goals all the time this year. � We will have the weapons in AB, Winslow, Stevens, and Ward. �"

No such thing has a December collapse when your team is 1-12....I consider that a season collapse and a change should be made again since this up and coming coach obviously isn't the real deal.


Using the quote feature shouldn't be as hard as you're making it.   Then again I shouldn't give you much credit in the brains department.  respond to me on the other account please.  I like the sig pic better.    Oh and you're right about making a change.   We give one coach 7 years to do something and the next one should only have a single season.  that makes sense.


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#25 : June 26, 2009, 12:09:16 PM

Gruden scripted plays and got cute after that??????You think he followed script exactly then just made plays up? Funny post bucin texas

No what's funny is how poorly you failed to comprehend what I said.   Show me where I said he "made plays up"   I said he tried to get cute as in he was abandoning the run game too early and trying to wow us with his deadly 5 yard passing route attack.   It failed to put up touchdowns plain and simple.   If you don't agree with that then you obviously haven't been watching the Bucs these last few years. 


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#26 : June 26, 2009, 12:34:03 PM

Going 9-7 two seasons in a row, fading down the stretch both years, and showing no improvement and no real plan beyond "Let's plug the leaks for one more year"?  Yeah, that'll get you fired.

So, we have plugged all the leaks this year?

Not only that, but most of the media say the Bucs have no plan and no direction.
Gruden couldn't plug all his leaks in 7 years. Why should we expect Morris to get it done on 5 months?

FRG is the most logical poster on this board.  You guys just don\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.

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#27 : June 26, 2009, 01:49:59 PM

As long as the Owners aren't willing to spend the money, no coach will be able to patch the holes.

Why do you necessarily have to be wrong just because a few million people think you are?

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#28 : June 26, 2009, 01:55:04 PM

As long as the Owners aren't willing to spend the money, no coach will be able to patch the holes.
Jeff Faine, Antonio Bryant, Derrick Ward, Michael Clayton, and Kellen Winslow, Jr. disagree.

FRG is the most logical poster on this board.  You guys just don\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.

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#29 : June 26, 2009, 01:58:50 PM

Your everyday fan and what he thinks from the comment section.

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June 25th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

I have lived in Tampa for years and I have NEVER seen advertisements for TICKETS AVAILABLE. Never seen it. Well, driving by Raymond James Stadium today there was a HUGE sign on the side of the stadium �Season Tickets Available� with a phone #. Billboards are everywhere, radio ads, etc..

I am telling you - these off-season front office change is a collasal mistake. This franchise is going to PLUMMET.

4 & 12??? Which ones make up the 4??!!! They�ll be lucky to win 3. I see 2-14. Maybe they had to fire Gruden because he would have gone freaking beserk to have all that cap room and not get any good players�..anyone ever thought about the money - It�s ALWAYS the money!

Sounds like they have it all under control now. Tampa is going to get what it deserves this year.

They fired GruAllen after going 9 & 7???!! Are you freaking kidding me?


This franchise was in trouble with ticket sales long before the new regime arrived. There are several factors as to why:
start with the economy, then go look at the ticket prices and new deposits required on the renewals, then you can look at our playoff record since 2003. I could go on and on. To lay this at the feet of the new guy's is not fair.
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