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: June 29, 2009, 09:40:22 PM

He hits the nail on the head here.  Taking away games is pointless, and FSU knows it - only reason they care is Bowden.  Think Bama cares about forfeiting wins?  I think he is right, NCAA doesn't want to cripple the prgrams that makes it $$$$$$.  Crippling is taking away scholarships (not just a few, but MANY), bowl bans, TV bans, etc.  But The NCAA doesn't want to do that in this day and age of billion dollar TV deals and multi-million dollar bowl games.  I think he is right...Bama or FSU could get in trouble on probation, and still not see a TV or post season ban.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/andy_staples/06/11/alabama.penalty/index.html

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Alabama sanctions show NCAA won't slaughter its cash cows

Barring an appeal, the NCAA will put Alabama on single-secret probation for three years and force the Crimson Tide to vacate 21 football wins from the 2005-07 seasons because several players used their textbook money to obtain free books for other students. Wow. Nothing strikes a blow for truth and justice like an all-out assault on Mike Shula's career won-loss record.

That isn't to say that Alabama's football program deserved a stiffer penalty in this case. Unlike when the Crimson Tide purchased a defensive tackle like a heifer at a livestock auction at the beginning of this decade, this crime didn't merit severe sanctions. The currently-on-appeal case of widespread academic fraud at Florida State might have, but the Seminoles lost a few scholarships and wouldn't give a flip about the wins they have to vacate except for the fact that those wins belong to Bobby Bowden, who may or may not be racing Penn State's Joe Paterno for the title of winningest coach in Division I-A history. And when (if?) the NCAA finishes its investigation into the allegations against former USC tailback Reggie Bush, don't be shocked if the Trojans receive a mere speedbump of a penalty -- even if every allegation turns out to be true.

Like New Mexico this year and New Jersey in 2007, it seems the NCAA has banned the death penalty. For the nation's marquee programs, 25-to-life probably is out as well. Stripping a handful of scholarships over three or four years and forcing the vacation of wins, the NCAA disciplinary equivalent of serving a 30-day jail sentence on weekends, is about the harshest penalty the once-feared Committee on Infractions will hand down to a name-brand football program.

So forget bowl bans. Forget the TV ban, the NCAA's version of the atomic bomb. NCAA leaders, representatives of the schools themselves, understand now that it's bad for business to slaughter the cash cows, even if some of those cows occasionally cheat on tests or take money from agents.

Let's hop in the time machine and travel back to 1987. The Bangles taught everyone to Walk Like an Egyptian. Cliff Huxtable dispensed wisdom to Theo and Rudy every Thursday, and Sam Malone served drinks and chased skirts an hour later. Also, the NCAA canceled Southern Methodist's football season. You read that correctly, under-25 fans. The NCAA wiped a big-name program off the face of the Earth for a season. The NCAA also added the following sanctions against the Mustangs:

• They could play only seven games, none at home.

• They would be allowed 15 scholarships.

• They were allowed only five assistant coaches.

• They were banned from television and from bowls.

SMU didn't even bother playing in 1988, choosing instead to field a roster of freshmen and practice for 1989.


Now, just imagine if the NCAA issued even one of those penalties to USC as a result of the Bush investigation. The heads of programming at ESPN/ABC and Fox Sports Net would suffer simultaneous heart attacks. If the Pac-10 was in the midst of negotiating a new TV deal, it would have to take significantly less money, hurting the conference's other nine schools. The same would go for a similar penalty against Alabama. In fact, the money involved has grown so much that had the Albert Means scandal occurred last year, the NCAA probably wouldn't have slapped Alabama with a bowl ban and a 21-scholarship reduction. The Crimson Tide's probation for the textbook case actually leaves Alabama open for the death penalty, but it's highly unlikely the committee would take so drastic a step even if 'Bama ran afoul of the rules again. Alabama -- or Florida or LSU or Tennessee -- is simply too valuable a commodity. During the next 15 years, CBS and ESPN/ABC will pay a combined $3 billion to televise SEC sports. If those networks couldn't televise Alabama-LSU or Florida-Tennessee, they might ask for a refund. When punishing Alabama also hurts Auburn and Mississippi State, the NCAA can't afford to throw the book at an offender.

Shortly before the NCAA revealed the penalties, a reporter from The Birmingham News caught up with Alabama coach Nick Saban and asked how Saban felt about finally putting this episode behind the program. "I'm really happy for the players we have in the program that this won't affect their future, nor will it affect the players we're recruiting," Saban told the paper. "We're always happy to be moving on, and we're looking forward to the future."

Maybe Pete Carroll should keep a copy of that quote to use the day the NCAA wraps the Bush investigation. Neither USC nor any other name-brand program that winds up in the NCAA's crosshairs should worry too much about suffering in the future. They're just too valuable to harm.

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#1 : June 29, 2009, 10:22:09 PM

You're refering to an SI report about probation?

Look up SI report "Broken Beyond Repair"

Credibility of SI

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#2 : June 29, 2009, 11:12:29 PM

You're refering to an SI report about probation?

Look up SI report "Broken Beyond Repair"

Credibility of SI

THUG U

No, I referred to an article by Andy Staples, that was on point.

That article you cited was a real hoot though.

http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1006688/1/index.htm

I really liked this part

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you must be horrified that for three years an academic counselor in the athletic department systematically looted the federal Pell Grant program, which provides funds for needy students, in part to support his cocaine habit; that a secretary in your football office admitted to the Herald that she supplied marijuana to, and used it with, players, including on the eve of the 1994 Fiesta Bowl; and that in 1988 one of your strength coaches pleaded guilty to possessing steroids.

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#3 : June 29, 2009, 11:31:18 PM

You're refering to an SI report about probation?

Look up SI report "Broken Beyond Repair"

Credibility of SI

THUG U

No, I referred to an article by Andy Staples, that was on point.

That article you cited was a real hoot though.

http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1006688/1/index.htm

I really liked this part

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you must be horrified that for three years an academic counselor in the athletic department systematically looted the federal Pell Grant program, which provides funds for needy students, in part to support his cocaine habit; that a secretary in your football office admitted to the Herald that she supplied marijuana to, and used it with, players, including on the eve of the 1994 Fiesta Bowl; and that in 1988 one of your strength coaches pleaded guilty to possessing steroids.

The more I read this story I smiled and smiled more. If you read this story which i asked you to find. Now read the book Cane Mutiny How The Miami Hurricanes Overturned The Football Establishment written by Bruce Feldman. He does a great job of digging in deep of the good,the bad,and the ugly. 24 arrest in 3 years yes reminds me of the late 80s. Now your catching on lol. While its a long boring offseason go ahead you can order it for cheap (like any other paperback) for cheap. I recall after the Peach Bowl Urban said "we need to be fast like this". We set the foundation to dominating CFB. Remember who made you.

BTW What did we do to CFB after they wrote that story?

I can post you tube videos


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#4 : June 29, 2009, 11:36:22 PM

You're refering to an SI report about probation?

Look up SI report "Broken Beyond Repair"

Credibility of SI

THUG U

No, I referred to an article by Andy Staples, that was on point.

That article you cited was a real hoot though.

http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1006688/1/index.htm

I really liked this part

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you must be horrified that for three years an academic counselor in the athletic department systematically looted the federal Pell Grant program, which provides funds for needy students, in part to support his cocaine habit; that a secretary in your football office admitted to the Herald that she supplied marijuana to, and used it with, players, including on the eve of the 1994 Fiesta Bowl; and that in 1988 one of your strength coaches pleaded guilty to possessing steroids.

The more I read this story I smiled and smiled more. If you read this story which i asked you to find. Now read the book Cane Mutiny How The Miami Hurricanes Overturned The Football Establishment written by Bruce Feldman. He does a great job of digging in deep of the good,the bad,and the ugly. 24 arrest in 3 years yes reminds me of the late 80s. Now your catching on lol. While its a long boring offseason go ahead you can order it for cheap (like any other paperback) for cheap. I recall after the Peach Bowl Urban said "we need to be fast like this". We set the foundation to dominating CFB. Remember who made you.

BTW What did we do to CFB after they wrote that story?

I can post you tube videos

Urban has never coached a peach bowl, so sorry, he didn't say that.

As for remembering who made you....UF made both FSU and Miami....if not for sanctions in the 80's, UM and FSU would never have had the success they had.

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#5 : June 29, 2009, 11:42:42 PM

You're refering to an SI report about probation?

Look up SI report "Broken Beyond Repair"

Credibility of SI

THUG U

No, I referred to an article by Andy Staples, that was on point.

That article you cited was a real hoot though.

http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1006688/1/index.htm

I really liked this part

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you must be horrified that for three years an academic counselor in the athletic department systematically looted the federal Pell Grant program, which provides funds for needy students, in part to support his cocaine habit; that a secretary in your football office admitted to the Herald that she supplied marijuana to, and used it with, players, including on the eve of the 1994 Fiesta Bowl; and that in 1988 one of your strength coaches pleaded guilty to possessing steroids.

The more I read this story I smiled and smiled more. If you read this story which i asked you to find. Now read the book Cane Mutiny How The Miami Hurricanes Overturned The Football Establishment written by Bruce Feldman. He does a great job of digging in deep of the good,the bad,and the ugly. 24 arrest in 3 years yes reminds me of the late 80s. Now your catching on lol. While its a long boring offseason go ahead you can order it for cheap (like any other paperback) for cheap. I recall after the Peach Bowl Urban said "we need to be fast like this". We set the foundation to dominating CFB. Remember who made you.

BTW What did we do to CFB after they wrote that story?

I can post you tube videos

Urban has never coached a peach bowl, so sorry, he didn't say that.

As for remembering who made you....UF made both FSU and Miami....if not for sanctions in the 80's, UM and FSU would never have had the success they had.

Facts to support that statement?
Fact UM 5 NC= UF 3 NC
Fact UM 3 perfect seasons what you got?
Fact we want our War Canoe back cowards.
THUG U
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#6 : June 30, 2009, 12:16:22 AM

Clueless.

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#7 : June 30, 2009, 12:20:19 AM

Clueless.

The Rock says "read the book jabrony" OR ILL LAY THE SMACKETH A DOWN
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#8 : June 30, 2009, 12:22:58 AM

Ladies and gentlemen, i THINK we have found runole jr......can't get in to UF, pays his way into Miami....

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#9 : June 30, 2009, 12:26:50 AM

Ladies and gentlemen, i THINK we have found runole jr......can't get in to UF, pays his way into Miami....

LMAO
 AGAIN I RAISE THE MIGHTY HAND OF THE U SLAPPETH THE GATOR NATION DOWN AND DEMAND YOU BOW TO THE MIGHTY THUGS OF THE U

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#10 : June 30, 2009, 05:08:26 AM

To the poster/ puppet above D954BADBOY who didn't even attend UF I offer a thank for the mention of me.


The sincerest form of flattery and envy is mentioning someone by name.   It is nice to know that you are always thinking about me!


And with the refrains of that haunting song in my head by Kenny Rogers that will always remind me of the gators......



"THEY ARE THE COWARDS OF THE COUNTRY"....MMMMM "THE COWARDS OF THE COUNTRY!"   LOL

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#11 : June 30, 2009, 04:24:21 PM

You're refering to an SI report about probation?

Look up SI report "Broken Beyond Repair"

Credibility of SI

Should be noted that ANDY STAPLES IS A GATOR BEAT WRITER!     and now we know the rest of the story!

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#12 : June 30, 2009, 04:41:15 PM

You're refering to an SI report about probation?  I think he is referring to an SI report. Why does that statement have a question mark?

Look up SI report "Broken Beyond Repair"

Credibility of SI It is difficult to determine what you mean by this sentence fragment. Are you implying SI has good credibility or poor credibility?

THUG U


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#13 : June 30, 2009, 04:47:42 PM

You're refering to an SI report about probation? I think he is referring to an SI report. Why does that statement have a question mark?

Look up SI report "Broken Beyond Repair"

Credibility of SI It is difficult to determine what you mean by this sentence fragment. Are you implying SI has good credibility or poor credibility?

THUG U

Good to see the punctuation police are out.
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