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#15 : July 13, 2009, 09:24:43 PM

The problem is that he and Ruud have both shown through their play, on the field, for THE BUCS that they deserve new lucrative contracts.  But in order to get that new contract, they need to be a player that has never played a down for the Bucs in order to be the highest paid player at their position in the NFL.  :-)

Wrong. Bryant's franchise tag puts him in the top 5 in the league at his position and Ruud is an '05 draftee that signed a 5 year deal, meaning he has no negotiating power if there is not a new CBA.

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#16 : July 14, 2009, 04:21:20 AM

The problem is that he and Ruud have both shown through their play, on the field, for THE BUCS that they deserve new lucrative contracts. But in order to get that new contract, they need to be a player that has never played a down for the Bucs in order to be the highest paid player at their position in the NFL. :-)

Wrong. Bryant's franchise tag puts him in the top 5 in the league at his position and Ruud is an '05 draftee that signed a 5 year deal, meaning he has no negotiating power if there is not a new CBA.
But you set a precedent by giving another player....with 2 years left on their contract......a new lucrative contract.  And that player has never played a down for the Bucs.  Regarding the franchise tag...you are right, he has a ONE year deal.  Not exacty a 6 year $36.1 million dollar..with 20 guaranteed....deal is it?

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#17 : July 14, 2009, 04:41:57 AM

The problem is that he and Ruud have both shown through their play, on the field, for THE BUCS that they deserve new lucrative contracts. But in order to get that new contract, they need to be a player that has never played a down for the Bucs in order to be the highest paid player at their position in the NFL. :-)

Wrong. Bryant's franchise tag puts him in the top 5 in the league at his position and Ruud is an '05 draftee that signed a 5 year deal, meaning he has no negotiating power if there is not a new CBA.
But you set a precedent by giving another player....with 2 years left on their contract......a new lucrative contract.  And that player has never played a down for the Bucs.  Regarding the franchise tag...you are right, he has a ONE year deal.  Not exacty a 6 year $36.1 million dollar..with 20 guaranteed....deal is it?

You DON'T trade away 2 draft picks for a player who can walk away in two years without signing him to a long-term deal. That precedent has long been set by the league and you will find in almost every instance teams that give up picks for a player will give the player a new deal just like the NEW 6-yr. $52 million contract extension we gave Keshawn when we traded for him in 2000. If I recall, Mr. Derrick Brooks wanted a new contract that year and didn't get it until holding out the following year.

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#18 : July 14, 2009, 06:45:25 AM

Im not sure what another year will prove.  He is not going to cut his own NFL throat and fall back into old ways.  He showed last season what he was capable of.  The Bucs did nothing to help themselves by franchising him.  If he playes up to the standard he set last year, his price on the market goes up and the interest in him will grow.  IMO they should have locked him down when they had a chance.

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#19 : July 14, 2009, 09:12:11 AM

People fail to remember last year he wasn't even playing football.  Another year to prove that it wasn't a fluke is deserved.


You are right, he wasnt playing football the year prior to joining the Bucs, and with that said the man came off the couch , caught 80 balls for over 1200 yards and 7tds in the "NFL".  This man playing ability has never been the problem, its been his attitude. For  the first time in a while we have a true number 1 WR IMO.  We have our franchise QB on the roster, we have a real athletic playmaking TE, a true number 1 WR and a plethora of RB with a good young O-Line to run behind. Lets not move backwards; lets build our offense around these players. With Winslow and Bryant, its about time we have some attitude on offense












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#20 : July 14, 2009, 11:38:14 AM

The problem is that he and Ruud have both shown through their play, on the field, for THE BUCS that they deserve new lucrative contracts. But in order to get that new contract, they need to be a player that has never played a down for the Bucs in order to be the highest paid player at their position in the NFL. :-)

Wrong. Bryant's franchise tag puts him in the top 5 in the league at his position and Ruud is an '05 draftee that signed a 5 year deal, meaning he has no negotiating power if there is not a new CBA.
But you set a precedent by giving another player....with 2 years left on their contract......a new lucrative contract. And that player has never played a down for the Bucs. Regarding the franchise tag...you are right, he has a ONE year deal. Not exacty a 6 year $36.1 million dollar..with 20 guaranteed....deal is it?

You DON'T trade away 2 draft picks for a player who can walk away in two years without signing him to a long-term deal. That precedent has long been set by the league and you will find in almost every instance teams that give up picks for a player will give the player a new deal just like the NEW 6-yr. $52 million contract extension we gave Keshawn when we traded for him in 2000. If I recall, Mr. Derrick Brooks wanted a new contract that year and didn't get it until holding out the following year.
We just have a different point of view on what is right in regards to the players that have proven...thru their play for the Bucs....that they deserve to be rewarded too.  I don't buy your point and you apparently don't buy mine, so we will just have to agree to disagree.

Truths:
1.  Never have an argument with an idiot.  They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with their experience.
2.  For some it would be better if they remained silent and be thought a fool than to speak and erase all doubt.
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