Welcome, Guest
Pewter Report  >>  Boards  >>  Pirate's Cove (Moderators: 3rd String Kicker, PRPatrol)  >>  Topic: Lou Pritchett's letter to Hussein Obama « previous next »
Page: 1 2 3 4 5

GhostRider

******
Hall of Famer

Posts : 5991
Offline
#45 : July 31, 2009, 05:20:07 PM

mrtks - take a moment after you wipe and point out where i was wrong and we can debate it.  if you are entering the discussion from the perspective that i will not admit to being wrong, prior to establishing the fact, you are suggesting i am not willing to debate.  let's see where we finish - you get a "do over".

the thread was about a letter.  it was then turned into satire by someone that is comfortable portraying anyone that questions the president as racist - which kinda sorta paints every black Democrat as a racist in history, but i don't buy that either...  

i responded with a letter of my own, authored by me, not received via email, just my thoughts.  your reaction was unstable and without position.

rather than attacking me, feel free to disagree.  don't even comment.  i disagreed with Mr. Mojo, but that is it - doesn't make him an a-hole, doesn't make me hate him, just disagree.  you suggested footwear for some part of my body that did not imply my feet.

now, if (as it appears through your own actions) you have no counter-position, please continue the rant.  it has no substance, but does provide a certain degree of comedy in a country on a tragic course...


Here's where you're dead wrong.  I don't think everyone who questions the President or his policies is racist.  Far from it.  I myself take exception to quite a few of his policies.  But TURDO there has done nothing but attack this man from the get go over stupid things like his middle name, and the relative attactiveness of the man's wife (yet he never was bold enough to post any pics of his woman).  These actions clearly point to personal bias, rather than reasoned, informed critiques.  TURDO is a racist.  His postings are dripping with bigotry toward minorities and homosexuals.  He is who he is, and I'm going to call a spade a spade.


Ironphist

******
Hall of Famer

Posts : 2385
Offline
#46 : July 31, 2009, 05:23:38 PM

i think you should suggest, with your freedom enjoyed via the loss of life and limb of the American soldier, you should suggest to other countries that they revamp their governments every 100 years and see how that plays out.

only here, where your right to piss on the documents that have led to the greatest democracy in the history of history, can you claim it ain't workin' and you'll get a rousing applause from the grand recipients of the Federal Handout System.

what would a modern, we'll call it a Constitution but that's just details, document look like in contrast to what we see today?  where is this country falling short by you?  name one thing the government should provide that private industry should give up?  name an opposing program you would be willing to cut without any issues.

like Bill Maher who doesn't have time for the execution of a plan at the detail level, this is another great idea on paper.  You are asking a nation's government that cannot balance a budget to re-org every 100 years?  

how do ideas that won't work, cannot work, and have no shot at ever happening get the 5 minutes it took to respond?

i think the pothole in the road should fill itself because i said so...

John Galt?

*
Hall of Famer
******
Posts : 18831
Offline
#47 : July 31, 2009, 05:24:28 PM

�He is who he is, and I'm going to call a spade a spade.


That's racist!

The proper term is excavation implement.


Ironphist

******
Hall of Famer

Posts : 2385
Offline
#48 : July 31, 2009, 05:28:26 PM

Mr. Mojo,

I wrote the letter.  I did so from a contrarian position to the satire provided by an earlier poster.  I wanted to point out the pure hypocrisy of the lame attempt at humor by providing some opposing views.  I've never referenced Turbo aside from responding to a direct inquiry.

You wrote - "Here's where you're dead wrong" and then went on a rant about positions held and posted by another poster...

I don't have anything against your point of view aside from disagreeing with it.  I would hope that would not agitate you to the point of telling me where I could optionally display footwear...

"the thread was about a letter.  it was then turned into satire by someone that is comfortable portraying anyone that questions the president as racist - which kinda sorta paints every black Democrat as a racist in history, but i don't buy that either...  

i responded with a letter of my own, authored by me, not received via email, just my thoughts."

John Galt?

*
Hall of Famer
******
Posts : 18831
Offline
#49 : July 31, 2009, 05:38:29 PM


Eh.  As humor goes, that's lukewarm at best, but nice effort.  See, this is where most people misunderstand me.  I'm not for having NO constitution/bill of rights.  I just think the one we CLAIM to care about is outdated, and it's time to draw up a new one based on the needs and challenges of modern society.  Time for a new Bill of Rights.  In fact, we should probably draft a new one ever couple hundred years.  Assuming this nation actually lasts that long.  Our current constitution has been ignored, circumvented or altered for years now.  It's like a patchwork blankie that has seen it's best days come and go...

Thomas Jefferson would probably agree. Especially considering how 2 of our 3 branches have turned that 212 year old document into a convenience to be used only when necessary rather than a framework.

Hypothetically, there is some rationale for a "reboot", but realistically I don't think there exists enough authors free from greed and personal interests to write it.


GhostRider

******
Hall of Famer

Posts : 5991
Offline
#50 : July 31, 2009, 05:39:38 PM

i think you should suggest, with your freedom enjoyed via the loss of life and limb of the American soldier, you should suggest to other countries that they revamp their governments every 100 years and see how that plays out.

only here, where your right to piss on the documents that have led to the greatest democracy in the history of history, can you claim it ain't workin' and you'll get a rousing applause from the grand recipients of the Federal Handout System.

what would a modern, we'll call it a Constitution but that's just details, document look like in contrast to what we see today?  where is this country falling short by you?  name one thing the government should provide that private industry should give up?  name an opposing program you would be willing to cut without any issues.

like Bill Maher who doesn't have time for the execution of a plan at the detail level, this is another great idea on paper.  You are asking a nation's government that cannot balance a budget to re-org every 100 years?  

how do ideas that won't work, cannot work, and have no shot at ever happening get the 5 minutes it took to respond?

i think the pothole in the road should fill itself because i said so...

Your slant is more than apparent.  The soldiers who died were volunteers who fought for money.  Some were heros, and some were just dumb kids in the wrong place at the wrong time.  In Korea, they weren't protecting the Constitution.  Neither were they in Nam.  Nor Iraq (either time), nor Afganistan.  Hell, the last war we fought against an actual threat to our way of life was WW2.  Our "soldiers" (in reality, mostly our children) have been dying for reasons that have nothing to do with protecting the Constitution for so long now that you really can't bring them into the argument.  What conservatives fail to realize is that regardless of your efforts, time is marching on.  Needs and challenges of the future demand foward thinking government.  Our current system is a joke.  In fact, the very notion of seperate countries is outdated and ineffecient.  We've become a global marketplace, but still cling the the outmoded ideas of seperatism.  Freedom is an illusion.  Democracy in a 2 party system is also by and large an illusion.  People have been so deluded into believing that we still have a choice of leadership in this Republic, that they actually polarize and choose sides (rabidly, as apparently in your case) never realizing that the ideologies and philosophies they hold so strongly to are just marketing spin by corrupt and wealthy imperalists desperate to stay in power at any cost, at the ultimate cost----the enlightenment of the People.


GhostRider

******
Hall of Famer

Posts : 5991
Offline
#51 : July 31, 2009, 05:41:55 PM


Eh.? As humor goes, that's lukewarm at best, but nice effort.? See, this is where most people misunderstand me.? I'm not for having NO constitution/bill of rights.? I just think the one we CLAIM to care about is outdated, and it's time to draw up a new one based on the needs and challenges of modern society.? Time for a new Bill of Rights.? In fact, we should probably draft a new one ever couple hundred years.? Assuming this nation actually lasts that long. Our current constitution has been ignored, circumvented or altered for years now. It's like a patchwork blankie that has seen it's best days come and go...

Thomas Jefferson would probably agree. Especially considering how 2 of our 3 branches have turned that 212 year old document into a convenience to be used only when necessary rather than a framework.

Hypothetically, there is some rationale for a "reboot", but realistically I don't think there exists enough authors free from greed and personal interests to write it.

Too true.  Those who seek public office are too corrupt to hold it, those who don't are too stupid to be given it...What we really need is disaster to wipe out about a third of the population, crumble the world governments and let us start from scratch. 


Booker

******
Hall of Famer

Posts : 8294
Offline
#52 : July 31, 2009, 05:53:55 PM

Has mrtks ever had a rationale argument? Or ever posted what Obama has done so well so far or any information at all?

BucsBullsBolts

******
Hall of Famer

Posts : 4823
Offline
#53 : July 31, 2009, 06:02:22 PM

Has mrtks ever had a rationale argument?

I've honestly never thought I'd ever have a need for an "Ignore" feature on a message board but she has coverted me .... problem is not enough people on here have the will power to not reply so I'd still be seeing the nonsense in their posts.   ::)

John Galt?

*
Hall of Famer
******
Posts : 18831
Offline
#54 : July 31, 2009, 06:07:41 PM

Has mrtks ever had a rationale argument? Or ever posted what Obama has done so well so far or any information at all?


Pretty sure she is 0-849 in that department.

she is the Detroit Lions of informative posters.


Ironphist

******
Hall of Famer

Posts : 2385
Offline
#55 : July 31, 2009, 06:08:14 PM

my slant is apparent because it is obvious.  there's no hidden agenda on my end.  i believe in specific measures that would be wildly unpopular to many, but would be IMO in the best interests of our country.  the whole military is a volunteer organization.  they know the drill in terms of protecting us against opposing forces both foreign and domestic.  you can discount that and add your slant which appears to be a borderless world with regularly updated rules of law depending on the era and that time is the moral compass.  

i call that hyperbole and worst of all, there is no plan intertwined in the rhetoric.  it's utopia, but it's irrelevant.  but, if your answer to the world's ills is to wish in one hand and crap in the other - see which fills up first.  we don't have the luxury of dealing in theory or on a chalkboard... as you say - time marches on.  we have what we've built, so short of your population massacre, we kinda have to work within the framework of that which our forefathers gave us.  as inconvenient as that may be - it has a good track record vs. the entirety of known history.  watching efforts to multiply California by 50 surely doesn't seem like a good starting point to most.

our soldiers, in your opinion, are dying for reasons outside of the protection of our country, but the president's hometown is enjoying what he left in his wake with one headline after the other - been a great year back in the old neighborhood.  i'm a little more ol' fashioned.  i think the best and the bravest we have to offer and who volunteer for the right to wear the uniform do so with honor, believe in their mission, and by and large are better people for the experience.  we don't retain a military because the food is so good...

so specifically, without another New World Order theory, how do we get to your utopia?  let's assume we don't get that small meteor you're after.  i would argue that you're wasting a pretty good mind on things that will never come to pass.  this doesn't elevate you personally or professionally, so it is either a hobby or your slant is as bad/polar as mine...

TURBO

******
Hall of Famer

Posts : 15826
Offline
#56 : July 31, 2009, 06:44:00 PM

TURDO is a racist.  His postings are dripping with bigotry toward minorities and homosexuals.  He is who he is, and I'm going to call a spade a spade.

Real tough guy, you make me laugh...

When you look for it, anyone can be a racist.   I have nothing against minorities, and if you can find a post where your theory is proven, I will applaud you.

Homosexuals, well, that is another debate, but I can tell you this, I am against homo marraige, but if they want civil unions, have at it...  Marriage is between a MAN and a WOMAN, sorry for being such a blundering traditionalist.

I dislike Obama and his wife (who is butt ugly btw), but that has nothing to do with the color of his skin.  She would be ugly if she were white too.  If Obama was a white man with the name Hussein, it would still bother me.  I have always found it odd that America would nominate a president with that name in these times...  Does that make me a racist?  To you it does, to me, that name makes me uncomfortable, but I'm willing to admit it, and if others were honest on this forum, it would bother them too.  I'm not expecting anyone to come forward and say the same, so if you think that is my intention, you are wrong.

So Mr. Tough Guy MoJo, continue with your attempt at painting me a racist, but I have nothing against the color of a man's skin, only his actions, and to this point, he has done nothing to change my views based on his actions before, during and after the election.  I couldn't stand Bush either, but that was a non-issue to you because his skin was white.  Guys like you are always looking to play the race card, even and especially where it has no business.


dbucfan

*
Hall of Famer
******
Posts : 45987
Offline
#57 : July 31, 2009, 07:46:28 PM

...What we really need is disaster to wipe out about a third of the population, crumble the world governments and let us start from scratch. 

Really??? - pleasant dreams.  Time to finish dropping out I would offer.

\"A Great Coach has to have a Patient Wife, A Loyal Dog, and a Great Quarterback. . . . but not necessarily in that order\" ~ Coach Bud Grant

samsdad

******
Hall of Famer

Posts : 3177
Offline
#58 : July 31, 2009, 09:16:19 PM

let me translate the letter...

Dear President Obama:

You scare me because you're black.

Lou Pritchett

DING DING DING

WINNER WINNER


mrtks

*****
Pro Bowler

Posts : 1075
Offline
#59 : July 31, 2009, 09:59:37 PM

Has mrtks ever had a rationale argument? Or ever posted what Obama has done so well so far or any information at all?
I kinda think the same about posters here. They dredge for articles to post and go on and on about how god awful everything is and how our president is surely taking us down the wrong path. I do not agree with Phist that we are on a 'tragic' path at all. Don't know why you're so sure we are but I find all the sky is falling doom and gloom exceedingly annoying. I see a prez that is doing his best, trying to help the people who need it, and trying to clean up the mess left behind by the worst president in the history of our country. And the idiots that go around yapping about his middle name, his supposed religion, and his middle name don't want this country to be better. They want to be able to say, "See, we told you he couldn't do it." And there are more than a few that are simly racists. Including those who refer to him by only his middle name in an effort to mislead people as to his place of birth, loyalties, and religion. All of this really can't be countered with articles and facts. And I have never heard him once say "Hey, socialism is the way to go." I believe he can turn this country around but it will take awhile and won't be easy.

Page: 1 2 3 4 5
Pewter Report  >>  Boards  >>  Pirate's Cove (Moderators: 3rd String Kicker, PRPatrol)  >>  Topic: Lou Pritchett's letter to Hussein Obama « previous next »
:

Hide Tools Show Tools