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I said it before, JJ is better than them all. Has Lukes mobility, Lefty's smarts and accuracy and Freemans youth.
Quote from: O.S. Buc76 on August 16, 2009, 01:45:48 AMNope, he will get his chance to start and hopefully will make the best of it.You have lost your mind brother!! If you think McClown gets to start after what happened tonight, well then I truly don't know how to respond. My first stab would be for you to go back AND WATCH THE FREAKIN GAME! Are you serious? Josh Johnson looked far better than Luke and that's being kind.If you think starting Simms a few years ago was bad, you haven't seen nothing yet with starting Luke at home against the Cowboys...we might actually end up blowing up the entire franchise with that stunt. Please find someone else to support.
Nope, he will get his chance to start and hopefully will make the best of it.
Quote from: dalbuc on August 16, 2009, 01:51:34 AMI think people might be getting a bit too giddy over lighting up the 4th team defense. Tyler Palko was the "best" QB for ARI, in basically the same spot, Drew Stanton was large for DET, and Erik Ainge outplayed both Clemens and Sanchez for the Jets. It is a long way from whipping up on those guys and playing real NFL level players.Agree 100%; and JJ is simply a leftover from the Gruden era who is going to be allowed to put some game film together in the pre-season, that he can take with him on the way out the door in 3 weeks.
I think people might be getting a bit too giddy over lighting up the 4th team defense. Tyler Palko was the "best" QB for ARI, in basically the same spot, Drew Stanton was large for DET, and Erik Ainge outplayed both Clemens and Sanchez for the Jets. It is a long way from whipping up on those guys and playing real NFL level players.
I'll bet the house that he makes this team and plays more than anyone thinks right now!
Quote from: O.S. Buc76 on August 16, 2009, 01:54:12 AMQuote from: dalbuc on August 16, 2009, 01:51:34 AMI think people might be getting a bit too giddy over lighting up the 4th team defense. Tyler Palko was the "best" QB for ARI, in basically the same spot, Drew Stanton was large for DET, and Erik Ainge outplayed both Clemens and Sanchez for the Jets. It is a long way from whipping up on those guys and playing real NFL level players.Agree 100%; and JJ is simply a leftover from the Gruden era who is going to be allowed to put some game film together in the pre-season, that he can take with him on the way out the door in 3 weeks. I'll bet the house that he makes this team and plays more than anyone thinks right now!
People need to stop saying JJ got lucky on a broken play. Yes, it looked like a broken play for the offense. But the defense was well within their wits to what was going on, and JJ took it to the house through the middle of the field outrunning every Titans defender. That deserves some merit. Also, I know he had only a couple passes for 15 yds. But, he showed accuracy and poise in the pocket. This kid is doing what he can with what he is given, no matter how little that is. I also believe we should wait and see what he can do against some of the bigger boys but I believe in him.
Quote from: anterrabae33 on August 16, 2009, 12:20:49 PMPeople need to stop saying JJ got lucky on a broken play. Yes, it looked like a broken play for the offense. But the defense was well within their wits to what was going on, and JJ took it to the house through the middle of the field outrunning every Titans defender. That deserves some merit. Also, I know he had only a couple passes for 15 yds. But, he showed accuracy and poise in the pocket. This kid is doing what he can with what he is given, no matter how little that is. I also believe we should wait and see what he can do against some of the bigger boys but I believe in him. THIS. People are acting like bobbling the snap somehow makes everyone on the other team run with cement shoes, and thus outrunning the entire defense is no longer impressive. Let's also not act like turning a botched play into a TD isn't a huge plus.Johnson clearly looked the best last night out of the 4 QBs. I'm not naive enough to say "MAKE HIM STARTERZ!!1!" based on one drive against 3rd/4th stringers in a preseason game, but I also think that you have to recognize that this is all Johnson's being given to work with. And if he stands out, why not give him a chance? I know Freeman is expected to be the future, and I hope he is, but putting all our eggs in his basket would be a huge mistake. "Future franchise QB" is a term we've seen thrown on a LOT of QBs who ended up being terrible in the NFL. Assuming that somehow Freeman is guaranteed to be our future QB is just foolish. So why throw away a guy with a ton of potential just because you drafted another guy in the 1st round? It's not like Johnson costs much to keep around. Give him a shot if he earns it.
Quote from: nubcake on August 17, 2009, 01:43:13 AMQuote from: anterrabae33 on August 16, 2009, 12:20:49 PMPeople need to stop saying JJ got lucky on a broken play. Yes, it looked like a broken play for the offense. But the defense was well within their wits to what was going on, and JJ took it to the house through the middle of the field outrunning every Titans defender. That deserves some merit. Also, I know he had only a couple passes for 15 yds. But, he showed accuracy and poise in the pocket. This kid is doing what he can with what he is given, no matter how little that is. I also believe we should wait and see what he can do against some of the bigger boys but I believe in him. THIS. People are acting like bobbling the snap somehow makes everyone on the other team run with cement shoes, and thus outrunning the entire defense is no longer impressive. Let's also not act like turning a botched play into a TD isn't a huge plus.Johnson clearly looked the best last night out of the 4 QBs. I'm not naive enough to say "MAKE HIM STARTERZ!!1!" based on one drive against 3rd/4th stringers in a preseason game, but I also think that you have to recognize that this is all Johnson's being given to work with. And if he stands out, why not give him a chance? I know Freeman is expected to be the future, and I hope he is, but putting all our eggs in his basket would be a huge mistake. "Future franchise QB" is a term we've seen thrown on a LOT of QBs who ended up being terrible in the NFL. Assuming that somehow Freeman is guaranteed to be our future QB is just foolish. So why throw away a guy with a ton of potential just because you drafted another guy in the 1st round? It's not like Johnson costs much to keep around. Give him a shot if he earns it.This. This post can not be quoted enough. Nail, meet head.
Quote from: Pirates on August 17, 2009, 05:43:03 AMQuote from: nubcake on August 17, 2009, 01:43:13 AMQuote from: anterrabae33 on August 16, 2009, 12:20:49 PMPeople need to stop saying JJ got lucky on a broken play. Yes, it looked like a broken play for the offense. But the defense was well within their wits to what was going on, and JJ took it to the house through the middle of the field outrunning every Titans defender. That deserves some merit. Also, I know he had only a couple passes for 15 yds. But, he showed accuracy and poise in the pocket. This kid is doing what he can with what he is given, no matter how little that is. I also believe we should wait and see what he can do against some of the bigger boys but I believe in him. THIS. People are acting like bobbling the snap somehow makes everyone on the other team run with cement shoes, and thus outrunning the entire defense is no longer impressive. Let's also not act like turning a botched play into a TD isn't a huge plus.Johnson clearly looked the best last night out of the 4 QBs. I'm not naive enough to say "MAKE HIM STARTERZ!!1!" based on one drive against 3rd/4th stringers in a preseason game, but I also think that you have to recognize that this is all Johnson's being given to work with. And if he stands out, why not give him a chance? I know Freeman is expected to be the future, and I hope he is, but putting all our eggs in his basket would be a huge mistake. "Future franchise QB" is a term we've seen thrown on a LOT of QBs who ended up being terrible in the NFL. Assuming that somehow Freeman is guaranteed to be our future QB is just foolish. So why throw away a guy with a ton of potential just because you drafted another guy in the 1st round? It's not like Johnson costs much to keep around. Give him a shot if he earns it.This. This post can not be quoted enough. Nail, meet head.This is starting to look alot like San Deigo's "problem". River's and Brees, tho both qbs are in the top 10. Its no question you'd take Drew over Phillip. I'm not comparing Josh to Brees...but I too am starting to feel like Josh Johnson is the best qb on this roster. Didn't the guy light it up in the senior bowl against top D1 talent???