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#15 : August 28, 2009, 10:10:50 AM

Rah was more than fair.

He could have called the game for Byron to get a ton of easy throws but Byron didn't get many.

Bullcrap.

Leftwich had easy throws, don't act like he had to squeeze the ball in between defenders on deep throws all night long.  I've seen less-open receivers watching the Big 12 QB's throw ball.  I'd bet all 3 other QB's on the bench could made the throws Leftwich missed.


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#16 : August 28, 2009, 10:17:33 AM

Bullcrap.

Leftwich had easy throws, don't act like he had to squeeze the ball in between defenders on deep throws all night long.  I've seen less-open receivers watching the Big 12 QB's throw ball.  I'd bet all 3 other QB's on the bench could made the throws Leftwich missed.
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You struggle to read English like McNown struggle to read a defense.

Did Rah call a safe game for Byron? Was that the real offense on display or dd they dial up a bunch of swing passes and screens and fullback in the flat type things to pump up his completion percentage and make people like SR happy? No. The gameplan wasn't padded towards making Byron's numbers looks better which was my point - not the question of did Byron execute that plan well. The question is was the competition rigged and there's just no evidence of that.

All posts are opinions in case you are too stupid to figure that out on your own without me saying it over and over.

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#17 : August 28, 2009, 10:20:10 AM

Somehow I don't think Byron cares what his stats are. It's about taking chances at making big plays. I can practically see him him drooling to wind up that windmill and let it rip.

Quit beefing about the past and start hoping for the future

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#18 : August 28, 2009, 10:23:15 AM

Somehow I don't think Byron cares what his stats are. It's about taking chances at making big plays. I can practically see him him drooling to wind up that windmill and let it rip.

One thing about BL: he's going to make a lot of mistakes, but that won't for a second stop him from going back out there and letting it fly. McCown? Probably not.

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#19 : August 28, 2009, 10:26:27 AM

Rah knew who he wanted before the game ever started. He gave us garbage about how they would both play with the same people and make it an even competition.

McCown came in and Faine went out. In came the receivers for the practice squad. Anyone who's truthful with themselves would admit that Leftwich couldn't have avoided the sacks. Lefty had all day to throw and Luke was running for his life.

I'm not thrilled with either one, but it's as plain as day that the competition was rigged in Lefty's favor. I hate being lied to. [banghead] [banghead] [banghead]

I won't say it was rigged but Faine is Way > the ragdoll....could have been the difference...IMO

Without Carl Nix it feels like our running game just took a death blow to the face!


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#20 : August 28, 2009, 10:30:36 AM

Bullcrap.

Leftwich had easy throws, don't act like he had to squeeze the ball in between defenders on deep throws all night long.� I've seen less-open receivers watching the Big 12 QB's throw ball.  I'd bet all 3 other QB's on the bench could made the throws Leftwich missed.
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You struggle to read English like McNown struggle to read a defense.

Did Rah call a safe game for Byron? Was that the real offense on display or dd they dial up a bunch of swing passes and screens and fullback in the flat type things to pump up his completion percentage and make people like SR happy? No. The gameplan wasn't padded towards making Byron's numbers looks better which was my point - not the question of did Byron execute that plan well. The question is was the competition rigged and there's just no evidence of that.

You struggle with the quote feature just like you struggle to see both of sides of the argument.

I don't recall saying Leftwich had a "safe game plan," I said he had easy throws to make and missed them.  That has been par for course for Mr. Leftwich this preseason.


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#21 : August 28, 2009, 10:32:15 AM

Both QB's have shown that they are what they are. No minds have been changed. Leftwich has a poor completion percentage and a big windup, McCown is a slow decision maker and if you blitz the guy you're going to completely take him off his game.

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#22 : August 28, 2009, 10:34:54 AM

Both QB's have shown that they are what they are. No minds have been changed. Leftwich has a poor completion percentage and a big windup, McCown is a slow decision maker and if you blitz the guy you're going to completely take him off his game.


That's the simple end of it...I agree.  It's like picking poison...

Without Carl Nix it feels like our running game just took a death blow to the face!


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#23 : August 28, 2009, 10:36:32 AM

haha, Joe Buck said Fatty was going into the 3rd. So after the delay , it's pouring rain all the sudden there's number 12.   haha.

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#24 : August 28, 2009, 10:37:20 AM

haha, Joe Buck said Fatty was going into the 3rd. So after the delay , it's pouring rain all the sudden there's number 12.   haha.

I don't get it. Explain?

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#25 : August 28, 2009, 10:44:02 AM

how about the fact that Luke never had a chance to set his feet, there are some guys on the O line who let the miami defense fly by on purpose.  first 5 drop back Luke got hit 5 times!!!!! HOW ODD!!!!!  And If Freeman is our future we're screwed!!!!


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#26 : August 28, 2009, 10:51:12 AM

haha, Joe Buck said Fatty was going into the 3rd. So after the delay , it's pouring rain all the sudden there's number 12. haha.

I don't get it. Explain?

What i'm saying is Morris limited the damage Leftwich was doing to himself and saw an oppurtunity to stick McCown out there in the pouring rain after a 45 min delay.  You should know as well as anyone that they should have had the starter already set going into the Miami game.  Morris or whoever made the decisiion (and we all know it wasn't Jags)  made a cluster &$*# out of this whole QB situation.   For the most part this is what's known nationally, "The Bucs don't know who to start".       It's not hard to make a decision,,,, "Freeman is the starter, Leftwich will backup and we're attempting to trade McCown".   That easy.

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#27 : August 28, 2009, 11:02:01 AM

What i'm saying is Morris limited the damage Leftwich was doing to himself and saw an oppurtunity to stick McCown out there in the pouring rain after a 45 min delay.

Morris said this week that Leftwich would start and that each QB would play approximately a quarter and a half, roughly 2-3 series. Your conspiracy theory is dead.


You should know as well as anyone that they should have had the starter already set going into the Miami game.

Why? Why do other teams make decisions on who will be starting QB after the third pre-season game but Morris is not allowed the same luxury?

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#28 : August 28, 2009, 11:13:05 AM

I won't say it was rigged... but it clearly was less than fair... and it wasn't what Raheem claimed earlier in the week.  Each playing with the same players.. that didn't happen.  Stovall has the game of his life... and McCown is throwing to Kelly Cambell?

It doesn't really matter, at the end of the day, we are arguing about which pile of poop stinks less.  McCown... had no receivers open and a lot of pressure in his face... still didn't nothing to inspire confidence.

Byron had plenty of time and wide open receivers and threw 5 feet in front of them or 5 feet over them.  You can't be thrilled with either one to be honest.

I was looking forward to watching Freeman come in... but apparently he's learning all the wrong things from these two.  I think both of them need to get off the team, if this is the example they are going to set for the rookie.

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#29 : August 28, 2009, 11:13:46 AM

What i'm saying is Morris limited the damage Leftwich was doing to himself and saw an oppurtunity to stick McCown out there in the pouring rain after a 45 min delay.

Morris said this week that Leftwich would start and that each QB would play approximately a quarter and a half, roughly 2-3 series. Your conspiracy theory is dead.


You should know as well as anyone that they should have had the starter already set going into the Miami game.

Why? Why do other teams make decisions on who will be starting QB after the third pre-season game but Morris is not allowed the same luxury?


IMO,  so many questions surrounding this team, from mgmt to players. Morris should have decided a starter and made a confident decision. "This is our starting QB".   I think the last thing this organization needed was a indecisive decision at the most important position on the team.  All i'm saying

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