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#90 : September 21, 2009, 07:51:25 PM

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#91 : September 21, 2009, 07:52:22 PM

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#92 : September 21, 2009, 07:54:29 PM

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#93 : September 21, 2009, 07:55:18 PM

Okay - if there are NFL average players on the above lists - then they are better than what I am seeing.  Thanks for playing

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#94 : September 21, 2009, 08:00:23 PM

? The fact is this, we can get better players if we want them, but we wont spend the money to get them.

I've read similar posts and asked the same question 6 times, and have yet to get an answer. So I'll try again.

What players could we have gotten if we had spent the money?

I'll rephrase it, even though I know there will be no answer.

Name 2 Free Agents we didn't get, because of money, that are better than what we have.

Holding breath for answer

Did you enjoy your complimentary "Sprint" playing card that you got from the game?

So the count is now 7 times that I have asked the same question, and still not one single answer.

WHAT BETTER PLAYERS COULD WE HAVE GOTTEN, IF WE HAD SPENT THE MONEY?

Either your post was rash and baseless crap, or you can name some players we didn't get because we didn't spend the money.

Albert Hanesworth.  Keith Brooking.  Laverneous Coles.  Tj Houshmandzadeh.  Chris Canty.  T.O.  Brett Favre.  

According to Haynesworth, we offered more money, he just preferred Washington (but I'm not sure I believe him).

Is Brooking better than what we have? I don't think so.
Is Coles? 3 rec 20 yards, Stovall has 4 for 93, Stroughter has 4 for 35 and MC80 has 7 for 120, so NO
Favre was retired and not available (and said he'd only re-un-retire for Minny)
TO? Money had nothing to do with not wanting him.
TJ was also not a money issue, it was an age issue.
I'll give you Canty, but did we not go after him because of money, or because Morris/Bates weren't interested?


Would you agree a high profile player or two would put butts in the seats?  I do.

Yes, but that's moot.

We tried to get Haynesworth and offered a 9 digit contract, so you can't say "if we had spent the money" because they tried to spend the $$.

And other than over 30 TJ and Over 30 and a PITA TO, who are these high profile players?


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#95 : September 21, 2009, 08:04:09 PM

Agree 100% with jimbobuc ^^^^
So do I !!

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#96 : September 21, 2009, 08:05:09 PM

man, if only we had gone after Mike McKenzie or Fakhir Brown. Damn those cheap owners.


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#97 : September 22, 2009, 11:28:05 AM


Albert Hanesworth. Keith Brooking. Laverneous Coles. Tj Houshmandzadeh. Chris Canty. T.O. Brett Favre.

Other than Canty (who we should have gone after) and Haynesworth who we did none of those guys are part of any team that wants to build for the future.

That wasn't the question.  The question was "Name 2 Free Agents we didn't get, because of money, that are better than what we have."


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#98 : September 22, 2009, 11:29:43 AM

How about if I name 2 head coaches the Bucs didn't get that were better than what they got?   That list is alot longer than 2.
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