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: September 28, 2009, 05:38:32 PM

Well, considering that one of the reasons we're supposed to believe they fired Gruden is that he wouldn't get a young long term QB, it would be kind of ironic that we fired him right after he got one.




And made no attempt to play him-even in garbage time.
And what would that have to do with anything - the team was 9-3, no way to get to #4, and then in December - desperate for a win for the playoffs.   I wouldn't make anything of his lack of PT. 

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#1 : September 28, 2009, 05:16:06 PM

lol i know this team is married to freeman, but it would make for a nice QB controversey.




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#2 : September 28, 2009, 05:17:14 PM

wouldnt we have to say that allen gave us our franchise QB? 

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#3 : September 28, 2009, 05:20:56 PM

i could care less who it is, as long as we get a franchise qb. people will complain of course, but you will always have people complaining on these boards. there are way too many idiots on here, so of course they will make it about gruden vs morris. but who gives a damn if its freeman or jj, i just hope one of them pans out to be a franchise qb, its about time we have on here.

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#4 : September 28, 2009, 05:22:52 PM

i honestly wouldnt care either. even if JJ ends up tanking at least hes fun to watch.




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#5 : September 28, 2009, 05:23:08 PM

wouldnt we have to say that allen gave us our franchise QB?  
That would be a fact - in the same way as he refused some other selections Gruden wanted.  One would assume both would be somewhat in accord - but who really knows.  The fact is the GM does retain that right.

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#6 : September 28, 2009, 05:29:41 PM

I dont see how it could be a bad thing. If JJ works out then we get our franchise qb like we wanted. Anytime you get a 5th round QB to be your franchise guy consider it a win. Even if we did draft a QB in round one.



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#7 : September 28, 2009, 05:30:14 PM

Well, considering that one of the reasons we're supposed to believe they fired Gruden is that he wouldn't get a young long term QB, it would be kind of ironic that we fired him right after he got one.


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#8 : September 28, 2009, 05:36:49 PM

Well, considering that one of the reasons we're supposed to believe they fired Gruden is that he wouldn't get a young long term QB, it would be kind of ironic that we fired him right after he got one.




And made no attempt to play him-even in garbage time.

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#9 : September 28, 2009, 05:39:12 PM

Well, considering that one of the reasons we're supposed to believe they fired Gruden is that he wouldn't get a young long term QB, it would be kind of ironic that we fired him right after he got one.




And made no attempt to play him-even in garbage time.

Yes but you know a large chunk of JJ love here is based on the "he's Gruden's guy" theory and now with the "he was the future under Gruden" myth being spun this is just another sad weapon for the Gruden fans to try and claim he shouldn't have been fired.

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#10 : September 28, 2009, 05:40:55 PM

Well, considering that one of the reasons we're supposed to believe they fired Gruden is that he wouldn't get a young long term QB, it would be kind of ironic that we fired him right after he got one.


And made no attempt to play him-even in garbage time.
? He was fourth on the depth chart, you suit up three QBs, two on the active roster, one emergency. He was always 4th on the depth chart, that comment makes no sense!

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#11 : September 28, 2009, 05:45:28 PM

If Johnson became our franchise QB, how ironic would that be...Gruden was fired in part for not ever developing a franchise QB yet he would deserve all the accolades for drafting one.

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#12 : September 28, 2009, 05:46:44 PM

Well, considering that one of the reasons we're supposed to believe they fired Gruden is that he wouldn't get a young long term QB, it would be kind of ironic that we fired him right after he got one. 




And made no attempt to play him-even in garbage time.

Yes but you know a large chunk of JJ love here is based on the "he's Gruden's guy" theory and now with the "he was the future under Gruden" myth being spun this is just another sad weapon for the Gruden fans to try and claim he shouldn't have been fired.
That could be Dal, but regardless - it would be ironic.  Last year was a year to learn for JJ.  He did, he just didn't get to use what he had learned.  Not unusual for a first year qb - as you know.  And last year the staff did decide to run with 4 qbs to make sure they kept him.

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#13 : September 28, 2009, 05:47:54 PM

If Johnson became our franchise QB, how ironic would that be...Gruden was fired in part for not ever developing a franchise QB yet he would deserve all the accolades for drafting one.

again, allen would deserve all the accolades for drafting one.  and by all, i dont mean ALL, i just mean that we have heard repeatedly that allen was in charge of the draft.

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#14 : September 28, 2009, 05:48:51 PM

That could be Dal, but regardless - it would be ironic. �Last year was a year to learn for JJ. �He did, he just didn't get to use what he had learned. �Not unusual for a first year qb - as you know. �And last year the staff did decide to run with 4 qbs to make sure they kept him.

Odds are he'll be as good as Luke McCown. We'll have a ton of post-game threads this week about how he didn't get any help, how the line wasn't blocking, how if it weren't were X drops he'd have been really good and, of course, it is only his 1st start. The sadness here will roll on and on and on until we get a real QB.

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If you think Manziel is the best QB in this draft I can safely assume you are an idiot and will treat you as such.
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