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: October 23, 2009, 01:06:21 PM

If Ponder has a game like that November 28, then the Heisman talk is earned.

That will be a "heisman game" for him.

I can see that happening.  Even if the Noles lose that game (likely by giving up score after score to Tebow) Ponder will shred that secondary.


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#1 : October 23, 2009, 12:59:16 PM

If Ponder has a game like that November 28, then the Heisman talk is earned.

That will be a "heisman game" for him.


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#2 : October 23, 2009, 09:14:16 AM





This is the best QB in the nation and nobody's talking about him.  Stats schmats, you want stats?


70% completion percentage.  2176 yards 12 TD, I Int.  Yea, he's got the stats.  But his "heisman game" came last night where he threw for 395 yards and 3 TD's taking the Noles on his back and single handedly beating North Carolina's top ranked passing defense.  He hung 30 points on the 3rd ranked Defense in the nation.  He went 33/40 but had 2 dropped passes.  Not too shabby.


Even the numbers don't tell the whole story.  This is a kid who can make all the throws.  Perfect touch, perfect ball placement, perfect eye dicipline, this kid is ready for Primetime.  He sits cool in the pocket, goes through his reads and makes the throw man every time.  Oh, and the boy's got a mean set of wheels.  He is the only bright spot in an otherwise forgetable FSU season. 



PONDER FOR THE HEISMAN! 


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#3 : October 23, 2009, 09:32:17 AM



His team is 3-4.  Jimmy Clausen will get it before Christian Ponder.


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#4 : October 23, 2009, 10:02:46 AM

And?  The Heisman goes to the best player in the nation.  And Ponder is that guy.


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#6 : October 23, 2009, 10:46:01 AM

If he's so good why is everyone pressuring his coach to retire?


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#7 : October 23, 2009, 10:48:05 AM

Ponder is a good player, and his progression from last season has been phenomenal.  But it's homerish to say he's the best player in the country.


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#8 : October 23, 2009, 11:14:22 AM

Ponder is a good player, and his progression from last season has been phenomenal. But it's homerish to say he's the best player in the country.

Best QB, for sure.  The only other real candidate is Ingram, and although good, he doesn't jump out as spectacular.


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#9 : October 23, 2009, 11:22:47 AM

Ponder is a good player, and his progression from last season has been phenomenal. But it's homerish to say he's the best player in the country.

Best QB, for sure.  The only other real candidate is Ingram, and although good, he doesn't jump out as spectacular.

No, he's not.  Clausen is if you purely looking at the numbers - which is what you appear to be doing.

Ponder has more yards, but that's because he thrown it 60+ more times - Clausen's higher YPA proves the difference.  Clausen has also thrown more TD's in those 60+ less attempts.  Clausen's higher QB rating is just more evidence from a numbers viewpoint.


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#10 : October 23, 2009, 11:31:21 AM

Ponder is a good player, and his progression from last season has been phenomenal. But it's homerish to say he's the best player in the country.

Best QB, for sure. The only other real candidate is Ingram, and although good, he doesn't jump out as spectacular.

No, he's not. Clausen is if you purely looking at the numbers - which is what you appear to be doing.


If you actually read the OP, you'd know that wasn't the case. 


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#11 : October 23, 2009, 11:36:13 AM


This is the best QB in the nation and nobody's talking about him.� Stats schmats, you want stats?


70% completion percentage.� 2176 yards 12 TD, I Int.� Yea, he's got the stats.� But his "heisman game" came last night where he threw for 395 yards and 3 TD's taking the Noles on his back and single handedly beating North Carolina's top ranked passing defense.� He hung 30 points on the 3rd ranked Defense in the nation.� He went 33/40 but had 2 dropped passes.� Not too shabby.


Even the numbers don't tell the whole story.� This is a kid who can make all the throws.� Perfect touch, perfect ball placement, perfect eye dicipline, this kid is ready for Primetime.� He sits cool in the pocket, goes through his reads and makes the throw man every time.� Oh, and the boy's got a mean set of wheels.� He is the only bright spot in an otherwise forgetable FSU season.�



PONDER FOR THE HEISMAN!�


Using that logic, he comes in 2nd to Case Keenum (Houston) who has a 70.1% completion rate, 2501 yards and 19 TDs

That's a better completion rate, 326 more yards, and 7 more TDs!

But his "Heisman Game" came a week and a half ago when he threw for 434 yards and 4 TDs with a 75% completion rate against Miss State on the road


CASE KEENUM FOR HEISMAN!


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#12 : October 23, 2009, 11:37:46 AM


This is the best QB in the nation and nobody's talking about him.� Stats schmats, you want stats?


70% completion percentage.� 2176 yards 12 TD, I Int.� Yea, he's got the stats.� But his "heisman game" came last night where he threw for 395 yards and 3 TD's taking the Noles on his back and single handedly beating North Carolina's top ranked passing defense.� He hung 30 points on the 3rd ranked Defense in the nation.� He went 33/40 but had 2 dropped passes.� Not too shabby.


Even the numbers don't tell the whole story.� This is a kid who can make all the throws.� Perfect touch, perfect ball placement, perfect eye dicipline, this kid is ready for Primetime.� He sits cool in the pocket, goes through his reads and makes the throw man every time.� Oh, and the boy's got a mean set of wheels.� He is the only bright spot in an otherwise forgetable FSU season.�



PONDER FOR THE HEISMAN!�


Using that logic, he comes in 2nd to Case Keenum (Houston) who has a 70.1% completion rate, 2501 yards and 19 TDs

That's a better completion rate, 326 more yards, and 7 more TDs!


CASE KEENUM FOR HEISMAN!

Ponder has faced more legitimate compeition than either Clausen or Keenum.   And, JG, as I say in the OP, stats schmats.  I post them just to show that he's got those as well.  This kid is carrying the team on his back, much like Tebow did last year.


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#13 : October 23, 2009, 11:39:05 AM

Yeah, I did:

Stats schmats, you want stats?


70% completion percentage.� 2176 yards 12 TD, I Int.� Yea, he's got the stats.�




But his "heisman game" came last night where he threw for 395 yards and 3 TD's taking the Noles on his back and single handedly beating North Carolina's top ranked passing defense.� He hung 30 points on the 3rd ranked Defense in the nation.�


If you think beating North Carolina qualifies as a "heisman game," you're delusional.


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#14 : October 23, 2009, 11:47:42 AM

Yeah, I did:

Stats schmats, you want stats?


70% completion percentage.� 2176 yards 12 TD, I Int.� Yea, he's got the stats.�




But his "heisman game" came last night where he threw for 395 yards and 3 TD's taking the Noles on his back and single handedly beating North Carolina's top ranked passing defense.� He hung 30 points on the 3rd ranked Defense in the nation.�


If you think beating North Carolina qualifies as a "heisman game," you're delusional.

Shredding the #3 ranked defense (#1 secondary) is no big deal to you? 

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