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http://time-blog.com/middle_east

Jesus: Tales from the Crypt
Posted by Tim McGirk

Brace yourself. James Cameron, the man who brought you 'The Titanic' is back with another blockbuster. This time, the ship he's sinking is Christianity.

In a new documentary, Producer Cameron and his director, Simcha Jacobovici, make the starting claim that Jesus wasn't resurrected --the cornerstone of Christian faith-- and that his burial cave was discovered near Jerusalem. And, get this, Jesus sired a son with Mary Magdelene.

No, it's not a re-make of "The Da Vinci Codes'. It's supposed to be true.

Let's go back 27 years, when Israeli construction workers were gouging out the foundations for a new building in the industrial park in the Talpiyot, a Jerusalem suburb. of Jerusalem. The earth gave way, revealing a 2,000 year old cave with 10 stone caskets. Archologists were summoned, and the stone caskets carted away for examination. It took 20 years for experts to decipher the names on the ten tombs. They were: Jesua, son of Joseph, Mary, Mary, Mathew, Jofa and Judah, son of Jesua.

Israel's prominent archeologist Professor Amos Kloner didn't associate the crypt with the New Testament Jesus. His father, after all, was a humble carpenter who couldn't afford a luxury crypt for his family. And all were common Jewish names.

There was also this little inconvenience that a few miles away, in the old city of Jerusalem, Christians for centuries had been worshipping the empty tomb of Christ at the Church of the Holy Sepulcher. Christ's resurrection, after all, is the main foundation of the faith, proof that a boy born to a carpenter's wife in a manger is the Son of God.

But film-makers Cameron and Jacobovici claim to have amassed evidence through DNA tests, archeological evidence and Biblical studies, that the 10 coffins belong to Jesus and his family.

Ever the showman, (Why does this remind me of the impresario in another movie,"King Kong", whose hubris blinds him to the dangers of an angry and very large ape?) Cameron is holding a New York press conference on Monday at which he will reveal three coffins, supposedly those of Jesus of Nazareth, his mother Mary and Mary Magdalene. News about the film, which will be shown soon on Discovery Channel, Britain's Channel 4, Canada's Vision, and Israel's Channel 8, has been a hot blog topic in the Middle East (check out a personal favorite: Israelity Bites) Here in the Holy Land, Biblical Archeology is a dangerous profession. This 90-minute documentary is bound to outrage Christians and stir up a titanic debate between believers and skeptics. Stay tuned.

--Tim McGirk/Jerusalem



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#1 : February 24, 2007, 09:02:02 PM

Wow, sounds quite interesting...thanks for posting Joe.

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#2 : February 24, 2007, 09:03:26 PM

Well, a body wouldn't disprove the ressurection.  But the other stuff is plausible.  There is way too much myth involved to ever get the truth though.

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#3 : February 24, 2007, 09:11:57 PM

Very interetsing.

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#4 : February 24, 2007, 09:26:23 PM

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make the starting claim that Jesus wasn't resurrected

lmao, we need 'proof' that Jesus wasn't resurrected?

Christianity doesn't hinge on this event anyway.

Of course Jesus wasn't resurrected, and what difference does it make?




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#5 : February 24, 2007, 09:26:53 PM

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make the starting claim that Jesus wasn't resurrected

lmao, we need 'proof' that Jesus wasn't resurrected?

Christianity doesn't hinge on this event anyway.

Of course Jesus wasn't resurrected, and what difference does it make?
You touch yourself at night???

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#6 : February 24, 2007, 09:30:27 PM

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make the starting claim that Jesus wasn't resurrected

lmao, we need 'proof' that Jesus wasn't resurrected?

Christianity doesn't hinge on this event anyway.

Of course Jesus wasn't resurrected, and what difference does it make?
You touch yourself at night???

No, that's what your mother's for.




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#7 : February 24, 2007, 09:31:01 PM

LOL, nice. Anyhow sorry to hijack the thread Joe.

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#8 : February 24, 2007, 09:35:03 PM

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make the starting claim that Jesus wasn't resurrected

lmao, we need 'proof' that Jesus wasn't resurrected?

Christianity doesn't hinge on this event anyway.

Of course Jesus wasn't resurrected, and what difference does it make?

WHat do you mean by "of course Jesus wasn't resurrected"? 

How do you know this?

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#9 : February 24, 2007, 09:40:14 PM

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make the starting claim that Jesus wasn't resurrected

lmao, we need 'proof' that Jesus wasn't resurrected?

Christianity doesn't hinge on this event anyway.

Of course Jesus wasn't resurrected, and what difference does it make?

WHat do you mean by "of course Jesus wasn't resurrected"?

How do you know this?

Well, it's unlikely.

Also, I'm not saying that the religion itself is false. The bible is a series of stories meant to convey ideals/principles. Like Plato used to explain the forms, Christianity is constucted in exactly the same way, using tales to get concepts across. It's clearly factually wrong in areas if taken literally, but I don't believe it's supposed to be.


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#10 : February 24, 2007, 10:02:51 PM

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make the starting claim that Jesus wasn't resurrected

lmao, we need 'proof' that Jesus wasn't resurrected?

Christianity doesn't hinge on this event anyway.

Of course Jesus wasn't resurrected, and what difference does it make?

What difference does it make?  Have you ever heard of Easter?

It is one of the foundations of Christian faith.


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#11 : February 24, 2007, 10:06:17 PM

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make the starting claim that Jesus wasn't resurrected

lmao, we need 'proof' that Jesus wasn't resurrected?

Christianity doesn't hinge on this event anyway.

Of course Jesus wasn't resurrected, and what difference does it make?

What difference does it make? Have you ever heard of Easter?

It is one of the foundations of Christian faith.

No it isn't, it's meaningless idealogically.

What's the 'message' of Easter?


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#12 : February 24, 2007, 10:06:24 PM

Christmas..........

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make the starting claim that Jesus wasn't resurrected

lmao, we need 'proof' that Jesus wasn't resurrected?

Christianity doesn't hinge on this event anyway.

Of course Jesus wasn't resurrected, and what difference does it make?

What difference does it make? Have you ever heard of Easter?

It is one of the foundations of Christian faith.

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#13 : February 24, 2007, 10:11:49 PM

Christmas..........

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make the starting claim that Jesus wasn't resurrected

lmao, we need 'proof' that Jesus wasn't resurrected?

Christianity doesn't hinge on this event anyway.

Of course Jesus wasn't resurrected, and what difference does it make?

What difference does it make? Have you ever heard of Easter?

It is one of the foundations of Christian faith.

Again, in any religion, the moral code it establishes, usually expressed through stories is where you'll find the redeeming qualities.

If there was no mention of Jesus being resurrected or the (approximate) date that he was born, does anything change besides the number of people that might be allured by the religion? The 'message' remains the same, regardless of Easter and Christmas.


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#14 : February 24, 2007, 10:19:09 PM

Quanza?
Christmas..........

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make the starting claim that Jesus wasn't resurrected

lmao, we need 'proof' that Jesus wasn't resurrected?

Christianity doesn't hinge on this event anyway.

Of course Jesus wasn't resurrected, and what difference does it make?

What difference does it make? Have you ever heard of Easter?

It is one of the foundations of Christian faith.

Again, in any religion, the moral code it establishes, usually expressed through stories is where you'll find the redeeming qualities.

If there was no mention of Jesus being resurrected or the (approximate) date that he was born, does anything change besides the number of people that might be allured by the religion? The 'message' remains the same, regardless of Easter and Christmas.
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