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 21 
 on: Today at 03:44:16 AM 
Last post by Jr.3
I have not heard Blake Bortles and the Bucs at all.

 22 
 on: Today at 03:42:36 AM 
Last post by Jr.3
So much for taking the best available player.

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 on: Today at 03:20:30 AM 
Last post by Hate
I completely agree. So many, especially on this very board harp on value....fukk value. If there is a player that you like, and he's available, you take him. Never assume he'll be there when your next pick rolls around.


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 on: Today at 03:19:35 AM 
Last post by Bucko40
More than any other sport the hype around the NFL Draft is second to none. The amount of WTF moments from fans on Draft Day is half the fun. Many more times than naught are fans left bewildered by their teams draft selection. Who here saw Mark Barron or Michael Clayton or Aqib Talib coming when they were taken. So I've come up with 3 names that aren't exactly household names that could end up on the Bucs roster on May 8th. Now all this is conjecture because I'm predicting that Clowney, Mack, Watkins and the 3 OT are off the board by the 7th pick. Yes, no QB getting selected in picks 1-6.

1. CJ Mosley - ILB - Alabama - With Lovie Smith in charge at OBP now Bucs fans have to at least consider CJ Mosley. Lovie Smith has excelled with outstanding LB's when he was in Chicago. Drafting Mosley would allow the Bucs to move the coverage liability Mason Foster to the outside.  Foster would be the primary OLB that pushes the Tampa 2 flow back towards David and Mosley.

2. Justin Gilbert - CB - Oklahoma State - On the surface Cornerback wouldn't be an immediate need for the Bucs with the signings of Verner, Moore and Jenkins. Also consider the Bucs already have Jonathan Banks and CB would seem unlikely. We've all read that Lovie Smith places a high value on the Nickel CB position and drafting Gilbert would bring competition between he and Banks. Loser gets the Nickel spot. That leaves Moore and Jenkins to battle for a roster spot as much needed quality depth. The wildcard factor with Gilbert is he is a quality Kick/Punt returner that the Bucs need badly. Could drafting Gilbert be the reason the Bucs didn't put on the full court press to sign Devin Hester?

3. Zach Martin - OT/G - Notre Dame - I'm sure this will raise a few eyebrows and garner a few laughs I'm sure. Martin is solid and versatile road grader of an OT. He can play either tackle or guard position and can also sub in at C in case of injury. Now I'm sure there will be talk that taking the 4th ranked OT at #7 is not taking the BPA that Licht has been preaching. The thing is we fans don't really know what the Professionals think when it comes to prospects. We only know what the talking heads tell us. Drafting Martin makes sense because he'd add depth and competition along the OL.


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 on: Today at 03:18:55 AM 
Last post by ufojoe
Ok... its been 10 years. The cove is just one button away.

Feel free to go there. Or, you can ignore this thread.

 26 
 on: Today at 03:06:15 AM 
Last post by bucfan26
Good article I read this earlier today.

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 on: Today at 03:03:04 AM 
Last post by michael89156

Did Manning, Gase violate CBA with trip to see Saban?

FOX Sports

APR 18, 2014 6:15p ET



Ron Chenoy / USA TODAY Sports
Broncos quarterback Peyton Manning on the sidelines with offensive coordinator Adam Gase.


Peyton Manning’s thirst of knowledge for football could get the Denver Broncos in some hot water.
 
The Broncos quarterback and offensive coordinator Adam Gase recently made a trip together to Tuscaloosa, Ala. to share some knowledge with Alabama head coach Nick Saban.
 
“To be honest with you, [Manning] was just trying to learn so he could be a better player,” Saban told AL.com. “I think a lot of people would say, ‘Wow, the guy is one of the best, if not the best, and certainly from a career standpoint probably about as good as anybody’s been in the history of the league.  After all the experience and knowledge that he has, he’s going out and trying to seek more knowledge and understanding of the game of football so he can play better.”
 
Because Manning and Gase were together, it could be a potential CBA violation as the labor deal has limits on offseason activities. Under Article 21, Section 2(a)(ii), players “are not permitted to participate in . . . group or individual meetings with coaches” before the start of the team’s official offseason training program.
 
Since the Broncos haven’t started their official offseason program, the quarterback and coordinator meeting is a clear violation. Now, the league must decide if the Broncos should be subject to discipline.

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 on: Today at 03:02:58 AM 
Last post by ABuccsFan

If they believe Watkins is going to be THAT GOOD, go for it.

I'm not going to be upset with any pick. Time will tell if it's a good pick or not. Just wish draft day would get here.
Exactly. I don't care if the Buccs draft a Kicker #1 overall....if he kicks 100% from 49 yards in and 99% from 63-50 yards for his career.

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 on: Today at 03:02:35 AM 
Last post by michael89156

2014 NFL Draft: The problem with waiting on a quarterback
 
By Sander Philipse@Sanderrp

 Apr 18 2014, 9:38pm



Steven Bisig-USA TODAY Sports
 


Waiting on a quarterback in the draft sounds like a great idea, but it leads to problems.

Teams are going to wait on drafting a quarterback, Peter King noted on Monday. According to King, at least four teams at the top of the draft (not including the Buccaneers) are "strongly considering" waiting until their second or third picks to take a quarterback.
 
Those NFL teams are all run by idiots. Assuming the report is correct.
 
The problem with drafting a quarterback low is kind of obvious, if you stop and think about it for more than a few seconds: the lower you draft a quarterback, the worse that player is going to be -- and the better a quarterback is, the less likely he is to fall in the draft. After all, what are you going to do if that guy you really want to pick in the second round is instead picked at number 23? Don't believe me? The numbers speak for themselves.
 
It's easy to point to the Seattle Seahawks and Russell Wilson as an example of successfully waiting on a quarterback. But it's also an example of how a lot of other teams failed to draft Wilson, because they decided to wait on the pick. "It's real common for people to say, ‘Hey we loved that guy, too'," Pete Carroll told the Seattle Times. "And we got phone calls right after that sitting in the draft room from people saying, ‘Oh we were going to take him with the next pick.'"
 
Andy Reid loved Russell Wilson, and would have drafted him with his third-round pick, according to Daniel Jeremiah. He was off the board by then. Adam Schefter reported that both the Indianapolis Colts and Washington Redskins were targeting Russell Wilson at the top of the fourth round as a backup quarterback. He never made it there. Undoubtedly, other teams contemplated drafting Wilson at one point or another.
 
Of all of those teams, only one is happy with what they did. And even that team has to consider themselves lucky that Andy Reid wasn't just a little bit more excited about Russell Wilson, or that Robert Griffin III and Andrew Luck were available at the top of the draft. Or that seemingly no one in the NFL could listen to the wisdom of crowds that screamed "Russell Wilson is awesome".
 
What happened in the 2012 draft seems like a sort of collective delusion: NFL teams convinced each other that Russell Wilson would fall, and that's exactly why he fell. The pre-draft NFL team hype on Wilson was relentlessly negative: he was too short, and that was all there was to him. Internet draft scouts loved him, but that doesn't matter to NFL teams. Football Outsiders' forecast loved him, but that doesn't matter to NFL teams, either. And so everyone decided to wait on Wilson, convinced that every other team hated him.
 
That's a dangerous game to play. Sure, people would have laughed at the Seattle Seahawks had they taken Russell Wilson with their first-round pick. But laughter's fairly palatable if you're holding the Lombardi trophy two years later, in large part thanks to that short, obvious failure of a quarterback you drafted in the first round.
 
I said this same thing last year, and I'll say it again this year: if you really like a quarterback, use your first-round pick on him. Don't try to get a steal in a later round. Don't run the risk of missing out on the guy you love at the most important position on the field because you're obsessed with value.
 
You don't want to be the team telling reporters about the franchise passer you would have selected had he fallen just a little farther. You want to be the team that's telling reporters how smart you were for taking that quarterback that high, against all conventional wisdom.



http://www.bucsnation.com/2014/4/18/5620736/2014-nfl-draft-the-problem-with-waiting-on-a-quarterback


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 on: Today at 03:02:09 AM 
Last post by michael89156


A.J. McCarron: The Steal of the 2014 NFL Draft
 
April 18, 2014 2:55 pm
 



The NFL draft is less than three weeks away. Since the college football season ended (and even before that) we’ve been hearing names such as Clowney, Manziel and Mack: names of players who will likely be selected in the first few picks in May’s NFL draft. Those of you who, like me, are hardcore football fans know that teams are built with players selected on the second and sometimes third day of the draft.

Each year there are a few draftees whose stock is affected negatively for various reasons: bad pro day, unimpressive combine numbers or off-field problems. Few college players that have the tools and smarts along with an impressive college resume (at a football powerhouse) fly under the radar. Every NFL draft has a few players that should have been drafted higher than they were.  Players like Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees come to mind. This year will be no different.  Alabama quarterback AJ McCarron is projected to be a 3rd to 5th round selection falls into this category.

I watch a lot of college football and have no affiliation or rooting interest for a specific team or conference. With that being said I am shocked that McCarron isn’t as highly rated as a Blake Bortles or Johnny Manziel. McCarron is a better passer and more consistent then both Bortles and Manziel and his game will translate better to the NFL as well.

As a three year starter, McCarron is a proven winner who has progressed as a quarterback throughout his college career. His career completion percentage was almost 70%. McCarron finished with 77 TD’s and 15 INT’s throwing a total of three interceptions 2012 (two in one game). He has faced pressure at a high level and never gets rattled. He reminds me of Eli Manning when under pressure: he never panics, and is always calm. McCarron is also smart. He plays the game like Andrew Luck did at Stanford: consistent and mistake free. He’s not the most athletic player, but his intangibles are his strength. McCarron’s performance in last year’s SEC title game defined his entire career. Even though Alabama lost, he was brilliant finishing the game with three touchdowns (the third being one of his greatest) and zero interceptions.

AJ McCarron has the tools to be successful at the next level. At 6’3” he is as tall than Aaron Rodgers and Matthew Stafford. His resume is as good as anyone coming out of school. There wasn’t much more he could have done to help make himself or his team better. The so-called “expert opinion” is that McCarron is a product of a good offensive system or a system quarterback. I disagree. Fresno State’s Derrick Carr is a product of an offensive system, not McCarron.

There is probably an NFL GM (or two) that feel as I do about AJ McCarron. The team that selects him will have one of the most talented and smartest players for a long time. The steal of the 2014 NFL draft.




http://www.footballnation.com/content/aj-mccarron-the-steal-the-2014-nfl-draft/29174/

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