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 81 
 on: Today at 12:07:30 AM 
Last post by ufojoe
They don't get paid to make predictions ....they get paid to judge the pulse of the betting public and adjust lines accordingly.
Vegas is right A LOT more than they are wrong.

They are never right or wrong, they provide a platform for you, the betting public, to be right or wrong.

Wrong. There are plenty of times when a sports book will take a position on a game.

I've never heard of that. I've heard of a book getting **CENSORED** slapped by the bets being one sided and then that bet actually hits but I have never heard of a book taking a position in a game. I could see it happen to hedge the middle if things get lopsided in the public betting, i've just never heard of it.

I'm trying to find an article or info. to back up what I wrote but I can't find any. Assume I'm wrong.

 82 
 on: Yesterday at 11:56:25 PM 
Last post by DonkeyHunter
Quote from: VinBucFan link=topic=1315627.msg2194219#msg2194219 date=1398043698[/quote
in any event, perceptions always carries the day and that is why we have already had an assault weapons ban.  The point though is to reduce the ability of a human to kill many humans at once.

"self defense" and "mass murder" are not the same things and dont require the same weapons . . .  so where there is a "self-defense" justification for a handgun . .  . there is less justification for an assault rifle that can kill many people at once .  . in fact, that is sort of designed for just that . . . hence the "military" connection

Really? Virginia Tech massacre. 33 dead and countless more injured. What kind of assault rifle did he use again? I don't remember.

And since you probably missed this one. The shooter used 2 handguns. A .22 and 9mm. Those are 2 of the smallest caliber pistols manufactured today. You know, common "home self-defense" weapons. But, wait...they can't be since "mass murder" requires a different weapon.

see the part in bold? where did I say that mass murder requires a different weapon?

DH -- as shocking as this might seem, the more bullets I have the better my chances of killing more people, particularly if I a a relative novice with a gun. its just common sense that I have a better chance of killing a lot of people with an AR and a 100 round drum clip then with a 6 shooter, right?

Excuse me. I was doing a few things at once and misread your quote. But yes, while they don't require the same weapon, the V. Tech massacre shows that it can. One of the worst massacres in U.S. History, was carried out with the use of 2 commonly used handguns. Not assault rifles. Not with 100 round drums. Not with extended magazines. And this claimed the lives of more people than Sandy Hook.

And I'm not switching arguments. You claimed that the AR was the choice of mass murderers. Then when I showed you proof that you were wrong, you claimed, "Well, that's the perception". And even now, you're backing off of that. Now you're saying that I refuse to address your "fact" that assault weapons and high capacity magazines are not necessary for self/home defense. You'd like me to address it? I will when you show me this "fact" that they are not necessary.

 83 
 on: Yesterday at 11:43:56 PM 
Last post by The Anti-Java
That has to be pretty cool Anti-Java. I'm sure your Dad has some stories.


He does, and I have posted a few here.  Between his 8-9 year NFL career, and now being partners in a Sports Agency for the last few years, he has some interesting takes.

 84 
 on: Yesterday at 11:40:16 PM 
Last post by bradentonian
http://majorspoilers.com/2014/04/15/sneak-peek-star-mage-1/


 85 
 on: Yesterday at 11:38:42 PM 
Last post by DonkeyHunter
Niners are looking for a 3-4 OLB to replace Aldon Smith. We would have no use for a 3-4 OLB.

The issue becomes do you want to trade all the way back to no.30?

I agree. It's almost as if we simply gave away our 1st rounder. But, obviously for a shi*t load of picks, you take it. Especially in this draft.

 86 
 on: Yesterday at 11:38:14 PM 
Last post by tpeluso
With the regular season schedule heavily rumored to be announced this week and with some teams having contests for guessing the schedule, I thought it'd be fun to throw out my guess (seen through pewter colored glasses, of course, but as realistic as I can think of) as to what the schedule-making gods will throw our Bucs' way this year. Join in if ya feel like.

W1: Sun 9/7 1:05p at Washington
W2: Sun 9/14 1:05p Atlanta
W3: Sun 9/21 1:05p at Pittsburgh
W4: Sun 9/28 1:05p Cincinnati
W5: Sun 10/5 1:05p at New Orleans
W6: Sun 10/12 1:05p at Detroit
W7: Sun 10/19 1:05p Carolina
W8: BYE
W9: Thu 10/30 8:25p Green Bay
W10: Sun 11/9 1:05p at Atlanta
W11: Mon 11/17 8:30p at Chicago
W12: Sun 11/23 1:05p Baltimore
W13: Sun 11/30 1:05p at Carolina
W14: Sun 12/7 1:05p St. Louis
W15: Sun 12/14 1:05p Minnesota
W16: Sun 12/21 1:05p at Cleveland
W17: Sun 12/28 1:05p New Orleans

 87 
 on: Yesterday at 11:36:51 PM 
Last post by DonkeyHunter
My walter big-board mock goes as follows:

1)  Sammy Watkins (WR)
2)  David Yankey (G)
3)  Austin Sefarian Jenkins (TE)
4)  (Jets, and they selected Trey Mason, RB)
5)  Dri Archer (RB/KR)
6)  Brett Smith (QB)
7)  Aaron Lynch (DE)

I really wanted to take a chance on the injured Syracuse corner (forgot his name), but the kid has a lot of potential, and he is over 6', 210ish.  He is at about 80 percent right now after leg surgery, but he should be available as a street free agent, and Lovie would be wise to bring him in, IMO.

Well...that's it.

That draft is soooooo sexy.

 88 
 on: Yesterday at 11:33:44 PM 
Last post by VinBucFan
Quote from: VinBucFan link=topic=1315627.msg2194219#msg2194219 date=1398043698[/quote
in any event, perceptions always carries the day and that is why we have already had an assault weapons ban.  The point though is to reduce the ability of a human to kill many humans at once.

"self defense" and "mass murder" are not the same things and dont require the same weapons . . .  so where there is a "self-defense" justification for a handgun . .  . there is less justification for an assault rifle that can kill many people at once .  . in fact, that is sort of designed for just that . . . hence the "military" connection

Really? Virginia Tech massacre. 33 dead and countless more injured. What kind of assault rifle did he use again? I don't remember.

And since you probably missed this one. The shooter used 2 handguns. A .22 and 9mm. Those are 2 of the smallest caliber pistols manufactured today. You know, common "home self-defense" weapons. But, wait...they can't be since "mass murder" requires a different weapon.

see the part in bold? where did I say that mass murder requires a different weapon?

DH -- as shocking as this might seem, the more bullets I have the better my chances of killing more people, particularly if I a a relative novice with a gun. its just common sense that I have a better chance of killing a lot of people with an AR and a 100 round drum clip then with a 6 shooter, right?

 89 
 on: Yesterday at 11:32:22 PM 
Last post by DonkeyHunter
That has to be pretty cool Anti-Java. I'm sure your Dad has some stories.

 90 
 on: Yesterday at 11:31:17 PM 
Last post by ISLAND BUCS
The simple facts are that the Bucs were 50 to 1 and after they traded Williams the Bucs went to 80 to 1.

That's just not the direction I would want the line on the Bucs to go

For me, it shows Vegas has a poor opinion of the Bucs

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