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#30 : March 19, 2007, 12:20:53 PM

CJ is the best player in the draft and it would not suprise me that the rumors of him being drafted by Oakland are heating up right now.  Which is prompting this trade up talk with the Bucs.  After CJ the Bucs would be trading up for:

QB Jemarcus Russell
QB Brady Quinn
OT Joe Thomas


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#31 : March 19, 2007, 12:21:25 PM

I wouldn't mind moving up, it guarantees one of the two best players coming out at WR or LT in a few years. Worth the 2b IMO. Essentially your trading Bogger Mac for a franchise player.




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#32 : March 19, 2007, 12:21:59 PM

We should be moving down if anything.  Moving up to #2 for a WR is insanity.  


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#33 : March 19, 2007, 12:23:20 PM

Kirwan is one of Bruce Allen's best friends. There could be some substance to this rumor...

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#34 : March 19, 2007, 12:24:06 PM

So is trading out of the #4 spot. Unless there's no chance on CJ or JT. Come on guys we're a threat like CJ away from having instant respect on offense.




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#35 : March 19, 2007, 12:24:22 PM

I see it like this and its simple. If the Raiders move Moss, then you sweat a little bit about losing CJ and JT. If they keep Moss and all reports as of today are that this trade rumor is nothing more than a rumor, then you stay pat. You have 2 spots ahead of you and you want 1 out of the 2 (CJ or JT). It would then have to go CJ/JT or JT/CJ and I would not think that would happen.

Regarding teams trading up. I don't think those teams want to give up much to get there and they teams that will give up something substantial would be moving the Lions back more than they would like to go.

We are fine, stay pat, hold the line...



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#36 : March 19, 2007, 12:27:34 PM

Rice and Kelly could be used as part of a trade up.

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#37 : March 19, 2007, 12:27:41 PM

I'm perfectly okay with "missing out" on CJ.  The only offensive guy I'm happy with at the top of this draft is JT.  If we don't have a shot at JT, I am hoping we trade down to get some defensive help.


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#38 : March 19, 2007, 12:28:27 PM

Please let them stay at 4. We need players bad. We have been trading picks like mad for years. Does everyone remember that? It might feel like dying a slow death if Oakland picks CJ and Detroit goes with Thomas but at 4 we will get a elite player. We need 2 or three solid picks and supplemental talent in the later rounds. If we trade up and end up like the Giants we are screwed.

4-12 Pick at 4 if you're guy is there or try to Trade down.

Oakland, Detroit, and Cleveland can draft in the top ten every year. I'd like pick # 32 next year.  

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#39 : March 19, 2007, 12:31:38 PM

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we trade up and end up like the Giants we are screwed

Maybe I am bad with math but...

CJ + JT = 2 players.

Lions hold the #2 spot.

Oakland drafts a player (either CJ or JT).

Bucs are left with whomever is left (CJ or JT).

Makes sense no? ;)

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#40 : March 19, 2007, 12:32:05 PM

Kirwin just said on Sirius Radio that the Bucs can't stay at 4 and get CJ and that he's hearing there have been trade talks between us and Detroit to move up to #2.

CJ isn't the guy to burn picks on to move up.

Right, stay with the plan. If he happens to fall then fine.

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#41 : March 19, 2007, 12:32:25 PM

We cannot lose picks...



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#42 : March 19, 2007, 12:33:16 PM

MVP - "Oakland, Detroit, and Cleveland can draft in the top ten every year. I'd like pick # 32 next year"

We all would brotha. CJ gives us instant cred on offense, and this draft is plenty deep with defensive talent, yet not so much on offense. Get the BPA, even everyone's dead grandmother knows it's CJ. So what's the discussion?




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#43 : March 19, 2007, 12:33:25 PM

Bucs can lose picks as long as they regain them by trading Rice or Kelly or trading either one or both in place of picks. 

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#44 : March 19, 2007, 12:34:01 PM

If we give up a player (Kelly, Rice, or both [plus pick #4]), I'm cool with it. But I would be REALLY sad to see a first day pick go. Having said that, If Allen and Gruden see enough in Thomas or Johnson to bite the bullet, they've got my support.

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