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: January 11, 2011, 12:54:01 PM

Here are the last 8 years of bowl games and the performances of the BCS conferences:



Conference     10/11          TOTAL       Winning %             Championships

SEC                      5-5              41-24            63%       6-LSU (split), FLA, LSU, FLA, ALA, AUB (5 in a row)
Big East                4-2              26-16            62%
PAC 10                  2-2             26-18            59%              2-USC (one split)
Big 12                    3-5             30-32            48%                      1-Texas
ACC                       4-5             30-32            48%
Big 10                    3-5              22-36            38%



Do people really still buy the "perception" b/s about the SEC, after 5 National Championships in a row?


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#1 : January 11, 2011, 01:02:59 PM

I still don't understand that crap about a "split" championship for USC.  They are in the BCS system and didn't win the BCS championship game.  How can they have a championship?


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#2 : January 11, 2011, 01:08:15 PM

Funny how the SEC is only 1 game better than the Big East for the best winning pct, yet people still think the Big East doesn't deserve a BCS bid.

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#3 : January 11, 2011, 01:10:12 PM

Here are the last 8 years of bowl games and the performances of the BCS conferences:



Conference     10/11          TOTAL       Winning %             Championships

SEC                      5-5              41-24            63%       6-LSU (split), FLA, LSU, FLA, ALA, AUB (5 in a row)
Big East                4-2              26-16            62%
PAC 10                  2-2             26-18            59%              2-USC (one split)
Big 12                    3-5             30-32            48%                      1-Texas
ACC                       4-5             30-32            48%
Big 10                    3-5              22-36            38%



Do people really still buy the "perception" b/s about the SEC, after 5 National Championships in a row?

It's about jealousy.  The SEC is like the Yankees.  They have the biggest player payroll so the other guys Big 10 (Red Sox), Big 12 (Mets), whine and complain.

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#4 : January 11, 2011, 01:18:18 PM

Funny how the SEC is only 1 game better than the Big East for the best winning pct, yet people still think the Big East doesn't deserve a BCS bid.

They certainly didn't this year.  AQ is a stupid system.


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#5 : January 11, 2011, 01:44:34 PM

Funny how the SEC is only 1 game better than the Big East for the best winning pct, yet people still think the Big East doesn't deserve a BCS bid.

They certainly didn't this year.  AQ is a stupid system.
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#6 : January 11, 2011, 01:58:53 PM

Funny how the SEC is only 1 game better than the Big East for the best winning pct, yet people still think the Big East doesn't deserve a BCS bid.

They certainly didn't this year.  AQ is a stupid system.

This year isn't the first time it's been raised.  People have been saying this ever since Miami, BC, and VA Tech left.

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#7 : January 11, 2011, 02:02:55 PM

Funny how the SEC is only 1 game better than the Big East for the best winning pct, yet people still think the Big East doesn't deserve a BCS bid.

They certainly didn't this year.  AQ is a stupid system.

This year isn't the first time it's been raised.  People have been saying this ever since Miami, BC, and VA Tech left.

Am I the only one who has seen the ACC's BCS game record?  2-11 or something like that?  The BE is batting .500, I think.  I see 6-6 but dunno if it's counting UCONN.


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#8 : January 11, 2011, 02:36:40 PM

Funny how the SEC is only 1 game better than the Big East for the best winning pct, yet people still think the Big East doesn't deserve a BCS bid.

When you break down the Big East, it isn't quite as impressive as the 4-2 looks.

BE #1 (UConn) lost to Big 12 #1 (Oklahoma) by 28 points
BE #2 (WVU) lost to ACC #4 (NC State) by 16 points
BE #3 (Pitt) beat SEC #10 (Kentucky) by 17 points
BE #4 (Syracuse) beat Big 12 #7 (Kansas State) by 2 points
BE #5 (USF) beat ACC #8 (Clemson) by 5 points
BE #6 (Louisville) beat Conf. USA #5 (S. Miss) by 3 points


I mean it isn't good when you signature victory is the Co-Conference Champion beating the #10 team in the SEC.


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#9 : January 11, 2011, 02:38:32 PM

I still don't understand that crap about a "split" championship for USC.  They are in the BCS system and didn't win the BCS championship game.  How can they have a championship?

They were the AP champs, but I suppose you are right for the sake of this thread.  LSU was the BCS champs that year.

I would edit it if this board didn't suck.


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#10 : January 12, 2011, 11:38:12 AM

Funny how the SEC is only 1 game better than the Big East for the best winning pct, yet people still think the Big East doesn't deserve a BCS bid.

When you break down the Big East, it isn't quite as impressive as the 4-2 looks.

BE #1 (UConn) lost to Big 12 #1 (Oklahoma) by 28 points
BE #2 (WVU) lost to ACC #4 (NC State) by 16 points
BE #3 (Pitt) beat SEC #10 (Kentucky) by 17 points
BE #4 (Syracuse) beat Big 12 #7 (Kansas State) by 2 points
BE #5 (USF) beat ACC #8 (Clemson) by 5 points
BE #6 (Louisville) beat Conf. USA #5 (S. Miss) by 3 points


I mean it isn't good when you signature victory is the Co-Conference Champion beating the #10 team in the SEC.

Just more evidence that the other conferences pay more.  Players are expensive these days, and top recruits are scared of the northeast... meaning, the dollar doesn't go as far.  Sure, Newton's dad was asking for $200K... but I'm sure he got $100K.  The SEC, Big 10, and Big 12 are just really good at covering those things up.

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#11 : January 12, 2011, 08:45:58 PM

Here are the last 8 years of bowl games and the performances of the BCS conferences:



Conference     10/11          TOTAL       Winning %             Championships

SEC                      5-5              41-24            63%       6-LSU (split), FLA, LSU, FLA, ALA, AUB (5 in a row)
Big East                4-2              26-16            62%
PAC 10                  2-2             26-18            59%              2-USC (one split)
Big 12                    3-5             30-32            48%                      1-Texas
ACC                       4-5             30-32            48%
Big 10                    3-5              22-36            38%



Do people really still buy the "perception" b/s about the SEC, after 5 National Championships in a row?

Yes, it is still a perception .... You post the 8 year performance record but then try and diminish the 2nd place finisher's accomplishment .... Can't have it both ways.

This conference superiority thing will be a lot clearer if/when they go toa  playoff system ... but they'll need a 16 team one to really validate it.

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#12 : January 12, 2011, 10:02:45 PM

Yes, it is still a perception

Weird.  All of those crystal balls sure look real.



You post the 8 year performance record but then try and diminish the 2nd place finisher's accomplishment .... Can't have it both ways.

I'm not trying to have anything both ways, since I didn't diminish the BE's 8 year performance record.  I said their record this season is a little misleading.  That match-up and results above should be ample proof.



This conference superiority thing will be a lot clearer if/when they go toa  playoff system ... but they'll need a 16 team one to really validate it.

Or when hardheaded folks can reevaluate their stance based on mountains of evidence. 


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#13 : January 14, 2011, 05:24:32 PM

Here are the last 8 years of bowl games and the performances of the BCS conferences:



Conference     10/11          TOTAL       Winning %             Championships

SEC                      5-5              41-24            63%       6-LSU (split), FLA, LSU, FLA, ALA, AUB (5 in a row)
Big East                4-2              26-16            62%
PAC 10                  2-2             26-18            59%              2-USC (one split)
Big 12                    3-5             30-32            48%                      1-Texas
ACC                       4-5             30-32            48%
Big 10                    3-5              22-36            38%



Do people really still buy the "perception" b/s about the SEC, after 5 National Championships in a row?

Yes, it is still a perception .... You post the 8 year performance record but then try and diminish the 2nd place finisher's accomplishment .... Can't have it both ways.

This conference superiority thing will be a lot clearer if/when they go toa  playoff system ... but they'll need a 16 team one to really validate it.

16 Team playoff would be a joke, 8 teams should be fine.

This was the AP final 16
1 Auburn (56) 14-0
2 TCU (3) 13-0
3 Oregon 12-1
4 Stanford 12-1
5 Ohio State 12-1
6 Oklahoma 12-2
7 Wisconsin 11-2
8 LSU 11-2
9 Boise State 12-1
10 Alabama 10-3
11 Nevada 13-1
12 Arkansas 10-3
13 Oklahoma State 11-2
14 Michigan State 11-2
15 Mississippi State 9-4
16 Virginia Tech 11-3

So your trying to tell me #16 Virginia Tech who got destroyed by the #2 team in the Pac 10 deserves to be in your mythical playoff system?Nah, give me the top 8 or top 10 but not the top 16, that would be kind of like little league where everyone gets a trophy.

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#14 : January 15, 2011, 10:58:29 AM

Here are the last 8 years of bowl games and the performances of the BCS conferences:



Conference     10/11          TOTAL       Winning %             Championships

SEC                      5-5              41-24            63%       6-LSU (split), FLA, LSU, FLA, ALA, AUB (5 in a row)
Big East                4-2              26-16            62%
PAC 10                  2-2             26-18            59%              2-USC (one split)
Big 12                    3-5             30-32            48%                      1-Texas
ACC                       4-5             30-32            48%
Big 10                    3-5              22-36            38%



Do people really still buy the "perception" b/s about the SEC, after 5 National Championships in a row?

Yes, it is still a perception .... You post the 8 year performance record but then try and diminish the 2nd place finisher's accomplishment .... Can't have it both ways.

This conference superiority thing will be a lot clearer if/when they go toa  playoff system ... but they'll need a 16 team one to really validate it.

16 Team playoff would be a joke, 8 teams should be fine.

This was the AP final 16
1 Auburn (56) 14-0
2 TCU (3) 13-0
3 Oregon 12-1
4 Stanford 12-1
5 Ohio State 12-1
6 Oklahoma 12-2
7 Wisconsin 11-2
8 LSU 11-2
9 Boise State 12-1
10 Alabama 10-3
11 Nevada 13-1
12 Arkansas 10-3
13 Oklahoma State 11-2
14 Michigan State 11-2
15 Mississippi State 9-4
16 Virginia Tech 11-3

So your trying to tell me #16 Virginia Tech who got destroyed by the #2 team in the Pac 10 deserves to be in your mythical playoff system?Nah, give me the top 8 or top 10 but not the top 16, that would be kind of like little league where everyone gets a trophy.

A  playoff format would most likely include the 11 Conference champs so with out the 5 at large bids a 16-team system would give, many of the worthy teams you have listed there wouldn't have made it.

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