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« #5400 : July 18, 2013, 08:21:43 PM »

If the "fight" would have gone much longer, Zimmurderman would have had to cut ANOTHER scratch onto his head.....


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« #5401 : July 18, 2013, 08:50:55 PM »

ThugVon beat him to death.

That wasn't likely.  People get beat up all the time and it doesn't necessarily lead to death. You must have lived a sheltered life.
not everyone gets beat up. Most try to reason ...if that doesn't work be sure you have your CWP...OBD


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« #5402 : July 18, 2013, 08:53:19 PM »

Rare occurrence - weak argument to use a gun to fight you fights
Ever pull a gun on someone?....I guess not...you haven't experienced that situation...OBD


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« #5403 : July 18, 2013, 09:24:13 PM »

Found this to be interesting...OBD

http://tbo.com/ap/national/panel-examines-medias-role-in-trayvon-martin-case-20130718/

Panel examines media's role in Trayvon Martin case
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Published: July 18, 2013
ORLANDO - The media made a multitude of mistakes in covering the high-profile prosecution of George Zimmerman in the death of teenager Trayvon Martin, some Central Florida civic leaders said Thursday during a panel discussion organized for the state's news editors.

The criticism ran the gamut, from the photos of Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman that were published soon after Martin's shooting death to the initial failure of the media to treat the case as a significant story.

It didn't gain wide attention until Martin's mother began calling for Zimmerman's arrest and the media picked up on suggestions that it was a case of racial profiling.

"It was just another black boy dead in Sanford, and it was not an important story," said Francis Oliver, Curator Goldsboro Historical Museum in Sanford, which displays the area's black heritage. "It was not an important story until Tracy Martin pushed it."

Orlando Sentinel breaking news editor Michelle Guido acknowledged that the paper didn't devote much coverage to the case immediately after the Martin's death, having little initial information on the shooting in a region where shootings are not uncommon.

"It sounds weird in the context of something that's become so huge, but the initial story, that is a story that we see every day. I'm sure we've got one today," she said.

The discussion took place during the annual Florida Press Association/Florida Society of News Editors convention. It was scheduled before Zimmerman was acquitted of murder charges Saturday.

Once the shooting did gain attention, the media generated more outrage by putting a photo of a 13- or 14-year-old Martin next to an old mug shot of Zimmerman, making it seem unbelievable that a menacing looking Zimmerman could have been in fear of his life from a boyish looking Martin, said Sanford City Manager Norton Bonaparte.

"People that saw that around the world saw that as Trayvon and saw that as George Zimmerman, and you're telling me that that little kid was beating up that other guy so bad that he felt in threat of his life and he shot and killed him, and your police department after talking to George Zimmerman said, 'OK, you're free to go!"' Bonaparte said. "I thought that was an injustice in the sense of that wasn't accurate reporting."

Central Florida Urban League President Allie Braswell said the media made mistakes throughout the case, ranging from confused reports on Zimmerman's ethnicity to predictions of violent protests once the jury reached its verdict. He urged the media to take a step back and make sure what they report is accurate because in cases like this they shape public opinion.

"You start to influence people who later become (jurors)" he said.

Guido, the only journalist on the panel, pointed out that the media is not homogenous. She said that although her newspaper occasionally made mistakes, one of the things she was most proud of was a series of stories pointing out to readers what was true and what wasn't among the things said about the case.

"We took a step back every couple of weeks in the beginning and we said, 'What are the ridiculous rumors that are going around out there?"' she said.


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« #5404 : July 18, 2013, 09:26:01 PM »

ThugVon beat him to death.

That wasn't likely.  People get beat up all the time and it doesn't necessarily lead to death. You must have lived a sheltered life.

Its not normal for someone to pin a defenseless person down and continue beating on them despite the victim making it obvious they do not want to fight.   Those are the actions of a potentially very dangerous individual.  An Individual that was desperate to obtain and handgun.   First punch a bus driver in the face, then beat up a guy in the dark...actions speak louder than words and my gut feeling is he was a nasty little punk.  God knows what he would have done if he had got old of a gun.


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« #5405 : July 18, 2013, 09:38:35 PM »

ThugVon beat him to death.

That wasn't likely.  People get beat up all the time and it doesn't necessarily lead to death. You must have lived a sheltered life.

Its not normal for someone to pin a defenseless person down and continue beating on them despite the victim making it obvious they do not want to fight.   Those are the actions of a potentially very dangerous individual.  An Individual that was desperate to obtain and handgun.   First punch a bus driver in the face, then beat up a guy in the dark...actions speak louder than words and my gut feeling is he was a nasty little punk.  God knows what he would have done if he had got old of a gun.

One of the reasons why African American youths are viewed with such caution is that they don't just beat people up, they go for a complete and utter beat down. How many stories have you read where some victim was knocked to the floor, knocked out even and then the kicking to the head began?

If you foster an image of being a badass motherf*cker, don't be too surprised when folks treat you like one. In that regard I think Zimmerman probably did "profile". Just like I would if someone dressed and acted a certain way. Conversely my brother who is a science teacher (but plays rugby and is pretty big), dresses like a school teacher,  and acts like a school teacher; I would have no qualms in having an argument with. Some others, not so much, at least not without taking a (mental) defensive posture.

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« #5406 : July 18, 2013, 09:40:51 PM »

George had his opportunity/responsibilty and duty to explain why he was following the kid but didn't even try - "I am the head of this community's neighborhood watch" - what is your reason for being here?"  Irresponsible.  Otherwise he was a creep lurking...
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« #5407 : July 18, 2013, 09:43:53 PM »

Huh?  You don't think there are white or Hispanic or other youths that go for "a complete and utter beat down"?    Statements like that is why race baiters justify their actions.

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« #5408 : July 18, 2013, 09:45:16 PM »

ThugVon beat him to death.

That wasn't likely.  People get beat up all the time and it doesn't necessarily lead to death. You must have lived a sheltered life.

Its not normal for someone to pin a defenseless person down and continue beating on them despite the victim making it obvious they do not want to fight.   Those are the actions of a potentially very dangerous individual.  An Individual that was desperate to obtain and handgun.   First punch a bus driver in the face, then beat up a guy in the dark...actions speak louder than words and my gut feeling is he was a nasty little punk.  God knows what he would have done if he had got old of a gun.

One of the reasons why African American youths are viewed with such caution is that they don't just beat people up, they go for a complete and utter beat down. How many stories have you read where some victim was knocked to the floor, knocked out even and then the kicking to the head began?

If you foster an image of being a badass motherf*cker, don't be too surprised when folks treat you like one. In that regard I think Zimmerman probably did "profile". Just like I would if someone dressed and acted a certain way. Conversely my brother who is a science teacher (but plays rugby and is pretty big), dresses like a school teacher,  and acts like a school teacher; I would have no qualms in having an argument with. Some others, not so much, at least not without taking a (mental) defensive posture.
classic racial profiling

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« #5409 : July 18, 2013, 09:53:39 PM »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2369592/Justice-Department-places-hold-Trayvon-Martin-trial-evidence-including-George-Zimmermans-gun--Florida-law-says-returned-him.html

Grandstanding . . .  and ridiculous when you consider this:

"Florida's state attorney's office released new evidence today in the case against George Zimmerman, including more than 30 FBI interviews with Zimmerman's friends, co-workers, neighbors, and his ex-fiancée, none of whom said that Zimmerman was a racist. The lead investigator in the case, Sanford Police detective Christopher Serino (later transferred to the patrol division at his request), told the FBI that he believed Zimmerman tracked Martin not because of his skin color but because Martin was wearing a hoodie. An FBI agent wrote in a report that Serino said, "Zimmerman's actions were not based on Martin's skin color, rather based on his attire, the total circumstances of the encounter and the previous burglary suspects in the community."
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« #5410 : July 18, 2013, 09:54:41 PM »

George had his opportunity/responsibilty and duty to explain why he was following the kid but didn't even try - "I am the head of this community's neighborhood watch" - what is your reason for being here?"  Irresponsible.  Otherwise he was a creep lurking...

Are you really that naive?   

If Martin was one of the people that was breaking into houses he would have been ULTRA defensive.  The vast majority of criminals of his race and age carry guns on a regular basis.....so announcing yourself as any sort of authority figure wouldn't be a good idea.

Zimmerman basically had good intentions but he got himself in a position he couldn't handle. He had no malice or criminal intent and the chances are Martin started the fight.  That is how the jury who sat through a couple of weeks of trail saw it anyway.



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« #5411 : July 18, 2013, 09:55:31 PM »

ThugVon beat him to death.

That wasn't likely.  People get beat up all the time and it doesn't necessarily lead to death. You must have lived a sheltered life.

Its not normal for someone to pin a defenseless person down and continue beating on them despite the victim making it obvious they do not want to fight.   Those are the actions of a potentially very dangerous individual.  An Individual that was desperate to obtain and handgun.   First punch a bus driver in the face, then beat up a guy in the dark...actions speak louder than words and my gut feeling is he was a nasty little punk.  God knows what he would have done if he had got old of a gun.

One of the reasons why African American youths are viewed with such caution is that they don't just beat people up, they go for a complete and utter beat down. How many stories have you read where some victim was knocked to the floor, knocked out even and then the kicking to the head began?

If you foster an image of being a badass motherf*cker, don't be too surprised when folks treat you like one. In that regard I think Zimmerman probably did "profile". Just like I would if someone dressed and acted a certain way. Conversely my brother who is a science teacher (but plays rugby and is pretty big), dresses like a school teacher,  and acts like a school teacher; I would have no qualms in having an argument with. Some others, not so much, at least not without taking a (mental) defensive posture.
classic racial profiling

Maybe, but perhaps the question should be why not what?

For the record, my brother is black, well, bi-racial that is why I used him as an example. When I hang out with him and his friends, no problem, go downtown Orlando, it's very intimidating to put it mildly.

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« #5412 : July 18, 2013, 09:59:15 PM »

George had his opportunity/responsibilty and duty to explain why he was following the kid but didn't even try - "I am the head of this community's neighborhood watch" - what is your reason for being here?"  Irresponsible.  Otherwise he was a creep lurking...

Are you really that naive?   

If Martin was one of the people that was breaking into houses he would have been ULTRA defensive.  The vast majority of criminals of his race and age carry guns on a regular basis.....so announcing yourself as any sort of authority figure wouldn't be a good idea.

Zimmerman basically had good intentions but he got himself in a position he couldn't handle. He had no malice or criminal intent and the chances are Martin started the fight.  That is how the jury who sat through a couple of weeks of trail saw it anyway.

One of the ironies is that some say if Zimmerman had followed the neighborhood watch guidelines and did not "confront" Martin, this would never have happened. Yet one of the main reasons they give in the Sanford Neighborhood watch literature for not doing so is that criminals have a tendency to react violently when caught in the act or feel threatened. Sound familiar?

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« #5413 : July 18, 2013, 11:00:23 PM »

Found this to be interesting...OBD

http://tbo.com/ap/national/panel-examines-medias-role-in-trayvon-martin-case-20130718/

Panel examines media's role in Trayvon Martin case
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
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You'll probably find this interesting too then:
Nice timeline covering the major lies and spin from the media:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/07/13/Media-Zimmerman-Coverage-Rap-Sheet

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« #5414 : July 19, 2013, 12:31:26 AM »

Man shoots and kills unarmed 16 year old boy, claims self defense, gets acquitted:

http://rochester.ynn.com/content/top_stories/490926/jury-finds-roderick-scott-not-guilty/

wonder why this wasn't all over the media?



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