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Quote from: SCLOBERNOCKER on April 05, 2012, 03:30:34 PMWrecked ship,I sit here reading your thread and cant help but wonder where your beef truely lies. With the military, or the ones directing it.You can agree or disagree with Iraq, afhgan, and our purpose there all you want. That is a political battle that not many people in uniform have a voice in. I am currently in my 9th year of active duty. I do not board the plane early, although I do appreciate the offer.PS**CENSORED** offMy beef is with anyone (especially ppl in uniform and the businesses that promote the military) that thinks like this "That is a political battle that not many people in uniform have a voice in."You have a voice you just choose not to use it. The public who foots the bill are the ones who don't have a voice but I'll be damned if I'm going to shut up because it makes you feel comfortable. p.s.don't bite the hand that feeds you
Wrecked ship,I sit here reading your thread and cant help but wonder where your beef truely lies. With the military, or the ones directing it.You can agree or disagree with Iraq, afhgan, and our purpose there all you want. That is a political battle that not many people in uniform have a voice in. I am currently in my 9th year of active duty. I do not board the plane early, although I do appreciate the offer.PS**CENSORED** off
Actually the problem isnt that Freeman stinks. He is average. He puts up good numbers just often enough to make you think he is better than he is. Bad and great are convincing. But mediocre makes you live with the delusion for too many years. He is just good enough to waste our time and not good enough to get us where we want to go.
Quote from: wreck ship on April 05, 2012, 04:14:00 PMQuote from: SCLOBERNOCKER on April 05, 2012, 03:30:34 PMWrecked ship,I sit here reading your thread and cant help but wonder where your beef truely lies. With the military, or the ones directing it.You can agree or disagree with Iraq, afhgan, and our purpose there all you want. That is a political battle that not many people in uniform have a voice in. I am currently in my 9th year of active duty. I do not board the plane early, although I do appreciate the offer.PS**CENSORED** offMy beef is with anyone (especially ppl in uniform and the businesses that promote the military) that thinks like this "That is a political battle that not many people in uniform have a voice in."You have a voice you just choose not to use it. The public who foots the bill are the ones who don't have a voice but I'll be damned if I'm going to shut up because it makes you feel comfortable. p.s.don't bite the hand that feeds you...one of the more **CENSORED**ed up things I've seen on any of the message boards...What a **CENSORED**ing **CENSORED**bag.
Quote from: wreck ship on April 05, 2012, 04:14:00 PMQuote from: SCLOBERNOCKER on April 05, 2012, 03:30:34 PMWrecked ship,I sit here reading your thread and cant help but wonder where your beef truely lies. With the military, or the ones directing it.You can agree or disagree with Iraq, afhgan, and our purpose there all you want. That is a political battle that not many people in uniform have a voice in. I am currently in my 9th year of active duty. I do not board the plane early, although I do appreciate the offer.PS**CENSORED** offMy beef is with anyone (especially ppl in uniform and the businesses that promote the military) that thinks like this "That is a political battle that not many people in uniform have a voice in."You have a voice you just choose not to use it. The public who foots the bill are the ones who don't have a voice but I'll be damned if I'm going to shut up because it makes you feel comfortable. p.s.don't bite the hand that feeds you...one of the more **CENSORED**ed up things I've seen on any of the message boards...
USF just sent me an email where they're going to let all with a military ID in to the softball game on Saturday for free.... Don't even need a uniform!!!!! What the hell are they thinking ....
Quote from: wreck ship on April 04, 2012, 09:56:26 PMYeah. My old man is a vietnam vet and he's been anti-war every since.My father is a two-yr vietnam vet and he still holds animosity toward Americans like yourself who directed their disdain toward Soldiers serving their country.[/quoteDo you still actually believe that the Vietnam war wasn't just another huge foreign policy mistake made by the US?THE VIETNAM WAR is only exceeded by America's Drug War as America's dumbest mistake. It does appear the Afghanistan and Irag conflicts are certainly challenging for a place near the top of the list. When does the US finally learn that its foreign policies are totally detrimental to the well being of most Americans that certainly aren't earning a profit from such ventures???
Yeah. My old man is a vietnam vet and he's been anti-war every since.
Quote from: Col. Klink on April 05, 2012, 06:31:18 PMUSF just sent me an email where they're going to let all with a military ID in to the softball game on Saturday for free.... Don't even need a uniform!!!!! What the hell are they thinking ....WHAT!?!!I'm calling the dean of that school. Heads will roll!
Quote from: Runole on April 06, 2012, 01:14:12 AMQuote from: morgan on April 05, 2012, 07:15:13 AMQuote from: wreck ship on April 04, 2012, 09:56:26 PMYeah. My old man is a vietnam vet and he's been anti-war every since.My father is a two-yr vietnam vet and he still holds animosity toward Americans like yourself who directed their disdain toward Soldiers serving their country.Do you still actually believe that the Vietnam war wasn't just another huge foreign policy mistake made by the US?THE VIETNAM WAR is only exceeded by America's Drug War as America's dumbest mistake. It does appear the Afghanistan and Irag conflicts are certainly challenging for a place near the top of the list. When does the US finally learn that its foreign policies are totally detrimental to the well being of most Americans that certainly aren't earning a profit from such ventures??? Where did I say anything about foreign policy? Where did you learn that the military establishes foreign policy?American Soldiers go to war because their country/population told them to. If you're not happy with the decisions of politicians, you don't take it out on the Soldier. Today's appreciation toward military service members comes from the realization that Soldiers from Vietnam were treated poorly when they returned from their tours of duty.
Quote from: morgan on April 05, 2012, 07:15:13 AMQuote from: wreck ship on April 04, 2012, 09:56:26 PMYeah. My old man is a vietnam vet and he's been anti-war every since.My father is a two-yr vietnam vet and he still holds animosity toward Americans like yourself who directed their disdain toward Soldiers serving their country.Do you still actually believe that the Vietnam war wasn't just another huge foreign policy mistake made by the US?THE VIETNAM WAR is only exceeded by America's Drug War as America's dumbest mistake. It does appear the Afghanistan and Irag conflicts are certainly challenging for a place near the top of the list. When does the US finally learn that its foreign policies are totally detrimental to the well being of most Americans that certainly aren't earning a profit from such ventures???
Quote from: wreck ship on April 04, 2012, 09:56:26 PMYeah. My old man is a vietnam vet and he's been anti-war every since.My father is a two-yr vietnam vet and he still holds animosity toward Americans like yourself who directed their disdain toward Soldiers serving their country.
Quote from: morgan on April 06, 2012, 07:20:37 AMQuote from: Runole on April 06, 2012, 01:14:12 AMQuote from: morgan on April 05, 2012, 07:15:13 AMQuote from: wreck ship on April 04, 2012, 09:56:26 PMYeah. My old man is a vietnam vet and he's been anti-war every since.My father is a two-yr vietnam vet and he still holds animosity toward Americans like yourself who directed their disdain toward Soldiers serving their country.Do you still actually believe that the Vietnam war wasn't just another huge foreign policy mistake made by the US?THE VIETNAM WAR is only exceeded by America's Drug War as America's dumbest mistake. It does appear the Afghanistan and Irag conflicts are certainly challenging for a place near the top of the list. When does the US finally learn that its foreign policies are totally detrimental to the well being of most Americans that certainly aren't earning a profit from such ventures??? Where did I say anything about foreign policy? Where did you learn that the military establishes foreign policy?American Soldiers go to war because their country/population told them to. If you're not happy with the decisions of politicians, you don't take it out on the Soldier. Today's appreciation toward military service members comes from the realization that Soldiers from Vietnam were treated poorly when they returned from their tours of duty.Understood and I certainly have never held such policy decisions against US Soldiers. However if you don't think much of our foreign policy and conflicts are because of the Military we will choose to disagree. I lost several classmates in Vietnam and have several friends that survived that HORRIBLE MISTAKE. They all agree 100% that it should never have happened in the first place. Of course Johnson and Nixon along with the military hierarchy disagreed. Of course we must never forget Nixon is the reason why the biggest mistake in America's history occurred... ie THE DRUG WAR... I still can't believe how any can still support such and ignorant stupid war that continues to put America in the toilet.Of course as usual it is all about the incredible PROFIT being earned by those either in enforcement, competition, or delivery. That remains the only reason this farce continues at of course the horrendous cost to the American tax payer both in dollars spent and human tragedy... Can someone please tell me again what the purpose of the drug war is?
Illuminator is a good poster. He sticks to his guns and makes good points. Some don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t like that.
Quote from: Runole on April 06, 2012, 04:01:51 PMQuote from: morgan on April 06, 2012, 07:20:37 AMQuote from: Runole on April 06, 2012, 01:14:12 AMQuote from: morgan on April 05, 2012, 07:15:13 AMQuote from: wreck ship on April 04, 2012, 09:56:26 PMYeah. My old man is a vietnam vet and he's been anti-war every since.My father is a two-yr vietnam vet and he still holds animosity toward Americans like yourself who directed their disdain toward Soldiers serving their country.Do you still actually believe that the Vietnam war wasn't just another huge foreign policy mistake made by the US?THE VIETNAM WAR is only exceeded by America's Drug War as America's dumbest mistake. It does appear the Afghanistan and Irag conflicts are certainly challenging for a place near the top of the list. When does the US finally learn that its foreign policies are totally detrimental to the well being of most Americans that certainly aren't earning a profit from such ventures??? Where did I say anything about foreign policy? Where did you learn that the military establishes foreign policy?American Soldiers go to war because their country/population told them to. If you're not happy with the decisions of politicians, you don't take it out on the Soldier. Today's appreciation toward military service members comes from the realization that Soldiers from Vietnam were treated poorly when they returned from their tours of duty.Understood and I certainly have never held such policy decisions against US Soldiers. However if you don't think much of our foreign policy and conflicts are because of the Military we will choose to disagree. I lost several classmates in Vietnam and have several friends that survived that HORRIBLE MISTAKE. They all agree 100% that it should never have happened in the first place. Of course Johnson and Nixon along with the military hierarchy disagreed. Of course we must never forget Nixon is the reason why the biggest mistake in America's history occurred... ie THE DRUG WAR... I still can't believe how any can still support such and ignorant stupid war that continues to put America in the toilet.Of course as usual it is all about the incredible PROFIT being earned by those either in enforcement, competition, or delivery. That remains the only reason this farce continues at of course the horrendous cost to the American tax payer both in dollars spent and human tragedy... Can someone please tell me again what the purpose of the drug war is? The drug war employs hundreds of thousands of people.
The Drug War and its associated Penal/Industrial Complex are at its core a moral statement. The military is a about guaranteeing access to resources. Any similarities are only superficial.
Anyone who's boarded a plane since 9/11 knows the procedure. Before 1st class boards and right after the handicap board, service members in uniforms are allowed to board.Why the special attn.? Why don't they ask if there are any teachers that would like to board 1st. They go to war everyday and are asked to do more with less.Why don't they ask social workers who deal with juvenile delinquents if they want to board 1st? They deal with the rebellious outcast of society for pennies.Why don't they ask sanitation workers who deal with our shiat everyday? Literally.I don't salute the army or it's members out of obligation and before you sensative types jump all over this statement, my old man is a Vietnam vet, uncle is a desert storm vet, sister and younger brother joined and they all know my position. I'm against war. I hate that there are army recruiting stations at high schools and the absolute waste of money and resources that is the military complex. Next time I fly, I'm dressing up as a soldier, complete with toy m16, and I'm boarding before everyone else. Take that uncle sam!