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#30 : April 23, 2012, 04:15:34 PM

Mike Williams had a DUI?

I read about the Mike Williams incident regarding his trip to Turning Stone Casino.  It was a massive communication breakdown between MW and his coaches...left his cellphone in his aunts car, he was depressed, knew he screwed up, team voted to keep him, etc...

Bucs did work regarding MWs character.
he got arrested his rookie year for a DUI. Granted he was below the legal limit...but he still had alcohol in his system while driving. To me...thats just a case of being lucky, and not actually smart. Still is a DUI in my book.
So he was under the legal limit, and got a DUI?

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#31 : April 23, 2012, 04:18:30 PM

Mike Williams had a DUI?

I read about the Mike Williams incident regarding his trip to Turning Stone Casino.  It was a massive communication breakdown between MW and his coaches...left his cellphone in his aunts car, he was depressed, knew he screwed up, team voted to keep him, etc...

Bucs did work regarding MWs character.
he got arrested his rookie year for a DUI. Granted he was below the legal limit...but he still had alcohol in his system while driving. To me...thats just a case of being lucky, and not actually smart. Still is a DUI in my book.
Your book is dumb. You think Trent Richardson is a bad guy for taking care of his two daughters.


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#32 : April 23, 2012, 04:20:41 PM

Mike Williams had a DUI?

I read about the Mike Williams incident regarding his trip to Turning Stone Casino.  It was a massive communication breakdown between MW and his coaches...left his cellphone in his aunts car, he was depressed, knew he screwed up, team voted to keep him, etc...

Bucs did work regarding MWs character.
he got arrested his rookie year for a DUI. Granted he was below the legal limit...but he still had alcohol in his system while driving. To me...thats just a case of being lucky, and not actually smart. Still is a DUI in my book.
Your book is dumb. You think Trent Richardson is a bad guy for taking care of his two daughters.
They were mistakes on TRs part...

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#33 : April 23, 2012, 04:34:26 PM

Mike Williams had a DUI?

I read about the Mike Williams incident regarding his trip to Turning Stone Casino.  It was a massive communication breakdown between MW and his coaches...left his cellphone in his aunts car, he was depressed, knew he screwed up, team voted to keep him, etc...

Bucs did work regarding MWs character.
he got arrested his rookie year for a DUI. Granted he was below the legal limit...but he still had alcohol in his system while driving. To me...thats just a case of being lucky, and not actually smart. Still is a DUI in my book.
Your book is dumb. You think Trent Richardson is a bad guy for taking care of his two daughters.
I can see how you think players having alcohol in their system is a good thing.

And I never said he is a bad guy for taking care of his daughters. Just a stupid decision so young in his life to have two kids. What if he wasn't good at football...hes lucky he is or its safe to say that those girls don't make it out of the projects.


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#34 : April 23, 2012, 04:42:40 PM

You have to be careful bringing in guys "just for the hell of it".   IMO.   They could turn into a locker room cancer and be a bad influence on a very young team.


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#35 : April 23, 2012, 04:51:02 PM

Quote from: Vontaze Burfict
"If I dont get drafted then I will have to go back to school, but I love football so much that I wont give up on football, but I will go back to school and finish up my schooling ... and probably go somewhere else like Arena football or something but hopefully I make it to the NFL."

Good for him. Honestly, I think he is saying the right thing here and I hope he backs it up.

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#36 : April 23, 2012, 04:53:03 PM

You have to be careful bringing in guys "just for the hell of it".   IMO.   They could turn into a locker room cancer and be a bad influence on a very young team.
That is honestly the biggest overblown thing in the NFL.

A true lockerroom that is cancer ridden is the New York Jets.

Otherwise, I can't think of any other cancerous teams. People like to use that word to describe teams that don't have discipline.

What the hell strikes this team as being undisciplined anymore?

This aint a Raheem Morris led locker room. That was a cancerous locker room based off the fact that nobody gave a crap. That isn't the way its going to be now.

Bringing in talented guys that are sorely needed at positions dire of talent is needed. Character concerns are a part of factoring in a decision, but its a 6th round pick. We need to start realizing that if we need to rely on 6th and 7th rounders to be starters then we aren't going to go far anyways. So why not take a chance on a guy who fell due to concerns and hope he makes it. If not...oh well its a 6th rounder.


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#37 : April 23, 2012, 04:56:26 PM

You have to be careful bringing in guys "just for the hell of it".   IMO.   They could turn into a locker room cancer and be a bad influence on a very young team.
That is honestly the biggest overblown thing in the NFL.

A true lockerroom that is cancer ridden is the New York Jets.

Otherwise, I can't think of any other cancerous teams. People like to use that word to describe teams that don't have discipline.

What the hell strikes this team as being undisciplined anymore?

This aint a Raheem Morris led locker room. That was a cancerous locker room based off the fact that nobody gave a crap. That isn't the way its going to be now.

Bringing in talented guys that are sorely needed at positions dire of talent is needed. Character concerns are a part of factoring in a decision, but its a 6th round pick. We need to start realizing that if we need to rely on 6th and 7th rounders to be starters then we aren't going to go far anyways. So why not take a chance on a guy who fell due to concerns and hope he makes it. If not...oh well its a 6th rounder.




We are not even one year removed from that circus.   And you want to add another "undisciplined" player to the mix?


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#38 : April 23, 2012, 04:57:11 PM

Quote from: Vontaze Burfict
"If I dont get drafted then I will have to go back to school, but I love football so much that I wont give up on football, but I will go back to school and finish up my schooling ... and probably go somewhere else like Arena football or something but hopefully I make it to the NFL."

Good for him. Honestly, I think he is saying the right thing here and I hope he backs it up.



That would be a first for him.


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#39 : April 23, 2012, 04:58:40 PM

You have to be careful bringing in guys "just for the hell of it".   IMO.   They could turn into a locker room cancer and be a bad influence on a very young team.
That is honestly the biggest overblown thing in the NFL.

A true lockerroom that is cancer ridden is the New York Jets.

Otherwise, I can't think of any other cancerous teams. People like to use that word to describe teams that don't have discipline.

What the hell strikes this team as being undisciplined anymore?

This aint a Raheem Morris led locker room. That was a cancerous locker room based off the fact that nobody gave a crap. That isn't the way its going to be now.

Bringing in talented guys that are sorely needed at positions dire of talent is needed. Character concerns are a part of factoring in a decision, but its a 6th round pick. We need to start realizing that if we need to rely on 6th and 7th rounders to be starters then we aren't going to go far anyways. So why not take a chance on a guy who fell due to concerns and hope he makes it. If not...oh well its a 6th rounder.

Alot of that stuff isnt brought into the limelight for a reason. Its harder to keep that stuff under wraps in NY where media is a different animal. Chemistry is a real thing and if its not working it can be a subtle thing affecting your team. Its affected many good teams in every sport.

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#40 : April 23, 2012, 04:59:17 PM

You have to be careful bringing in guys "just for the hell of it".   IMO.   They could turn into a locker room cancer and be a bad influence on a very young team.
That is honestly the biggest overblown thing in the NFL.

A true lockerroom that is cancer ridden is the New York Jets.

Otherwise, I can't think of any other cancerous teams. People like to use that word to describe teams that don't have discipline.

What the hell strikes this team as being undisciplined anymore?

This aint a Raheem Morris led locker room. That was a cancerous locker room based off the fact that nobody gave a crap. That isn't the way its going to be now.

Bringing in talented guys that are sorely needed at positions dire of talent is needed. Character concerns are a part of factoring in a decision, but its a 6th round pick. We need to start realizing that if we need to rely on 6th and 7th rounders to be starters then we aren't going to go far anyways. So why not take a chance on a guy who fell due to concerns and hope he makes it. If not...oh well its a 6th rounder.




We are not even one year removed from that circus.   And you want to add another "undisciplined" player to the mix?

The ship went from the Titanic to potentially floating with the hiring of Schiano. The boat is now floating fine and after the draft it might even be fully functioning.

Who better to deal with an undisciplined player then a guy who is extremely disciplined.

Nobody is saying hand Burfict the job. Make him earn it. Make him play special teams and see how he does there. Lets see what he can do in the pre-season and let him decide his own fate.

The talent is all there. It truly is. Why not take a risk. It could end up helping solidify a huge hole.


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#41 : April 23, 2012, 05:00:12 PM

You have to be careful bringing in guys "just for the hell of it".   IMO.   They could turn into a locker room cancer and be a bad influence on a very young team.
That is honestly the biggest overblown thing in the NFL.

A true lockerroom that is cancer ridden is the New York Jets.

Otherwise, I can't think of any other cancerous teams. People like to use that word to describe teams that don't have discipline.

What the hell strikes this team as being undisciplined anymore?

This aint a Raheem Morris led locker room. That was a cancerous locker room based off the fact that nobody gave a crap. That isn't the way its going to be now.

Bringing in talented guys that are sorely needed at positions dire of talent is needed. Character concerns are a part of factoring in a decision, but its a 6th round pick. We need to start realizing that if we need to rely on 6th and 7th rounders to be starters then we aren't going to go far anyways. So why not take a chance on a guy who fell due to concerns and hope he makes it. If not...oh well its a 6th rounder.

Alot of that stuff isnt brought into the limelight for a reason. Its harder to keep that stuff under wraps in NY where media is a different animal. Chemistry is a real thing and if its not working it can be a subtle thing affecting your team. Its affected many good teams in every sport.
I guess I have more faith in this regime to quickly cut ties with players they feel don't follow "the Buccaneer Way".


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#42 : April 23, 2012, 05:09:01 PM

You have to be careful bringing in guys "just for the hell of it".   IMO.   They could turn into a locker room cancer and be a bad influence on a very young team.
That is honestly the biggest overblown thing in the NFL.

A true lockerroom that is cancer ridden is the New York Jets.

Otherwise, I can't think of any other cancerous teams. People like to use that word to describe teams that don't have discipline.

What the hell strikes this team as being undisciplined anymore?

This aint a Raheem Morris led locker room. That was a cancerous locker room based off the fact that nobody gave a crap. That isn't the way its going to be now.

Bringing in talented guys that are sorely needed at positions dire of talent is needed. Character concerns are a part of factoring in a decision, but its a 6th round pick. We need to start realizing that if we need to rely on 6th and 7th rounders to be starters then we aren't going to go far anyways. So why not take a chance on a guy who fell due to concerns and hope he makes it. If not...oh well its a 6th rounder.




We are not even one year removed from that circus.   And you want to add another "undisciplined" player to the mix?

The ship went from the Titanic to potentially floating with the hiring of Schiano. The boat is now floating fine and after the draft it might even be fully functioning.

Who better to deal with an undisciplined player then a guy who is extremely disciplined.

Nobody is saying hand Burfict the job. Make him earn it. Make him play special teams and see how he does there. Lets see what he can do in the pre-season and let him decide his own fate.

The talent is all there. It truly is. Why not take a risk. It could end up helping solidify a huge hole.



That is debatable.


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#43 : April 23, 2012, 05:29:06 PM

You have to be careful bringing in guys "just for the hell of it".   IMO.   They could turn into a locker room cancer and be a bad influence on a very young team.
That is honestly the biggest overblown thing in the NFL.

A true lockerroom that is cancer ridden is the New York Jets.

Otherwise, I can't think of any other cancerous teams. People like to use that word to describe teams that don't have discipline.

What the hell strikes this team as being undisciplined anymore?

This aint a Raheem Morris led locker room. That was a cancerous locker room based off the fact that nobody gave a crap. That isn't the way its going to be now.

Bringing in talented guys that are sorely needed at positions dire of talent is needed. Character concerns are a part of factoring in a decision, but its a 6th round pick. We need to start realizing that if we need to rely on 6th and 7th rounders to be starters then we aren't going to go far anyways. So why not take a chance on a guy who fell due to concerns and hope he makes it. If not...oh well its a 6th rounder.




We are not even one year removed from that circus.   And you want to add another "undisciplined" player to the mix?

The ship went from the Titanic to potentially floating with the hiring of Schiano. The boat is now floating fine and after the draft it might even be fully functioning.

Who better to deal with an undisciplined player then a guy who is extremely disciplined.

Nobody is saying hand Burfict the job. Make him earn it. Make him play special teams and see how he does there. Lets see what he can do in the pre-season and let him decide his own fate.

The talent is all there. It truly is. Why not take a risk. It could end up helping solidify a huge hole.



That is debatable.
No it isn't. He sucks!

According to BucsFan4090 we should take a risk on a bad character guy whos not a good football player, but theres no way we should draft Trent Richardson, who is a beast, because he accidentely had a kid 5 years ago who he has taken care of.  Makes sense doesn't it.


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#44 : April 23, 2012, 05:31:42 PM

If I were Schiano, I'd have Bryan Cox interview him and work him out privately. If Cox says he could handlee him and groom him, I'd give him a late round look. If Cox said no, then off to the AFL.
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