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« #15 : November 29, 2012, 09:35:46 AM »

Our front four have been effective when they are allowed to just pin their ears back and go. No, it doesn't make us the 85 Bears, but we do get pressure.

We have DBs that can blitz and we have LBs that can cover. We can get tricky with those guys to disguise our pass rush and trick the QB into mistakes. There is really no need to have our front four do anything but rush the passer and stop the run.

I understand that creativity needs to be used when rushing the passer. So, I'm fine with the DL running a few stunts and such, but the one player I feel should not be running them is GMC. He has been the one that they have tried them with the most. It is most important to let him try and get up field. Coaching shares some of the blame for a few problems with the scheme. There is definitely a lack of talent when compared to top tier defenses, so you adjust to try to put the guys you have in the best position to win. I don't think that is done a lot of the time. There is no doubt in my mind that we need upgrades on both the DL and the back end. Coaching/pass rush/secondary play...all three attribute to us getting burned.


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« #16 : November 29, 2012, 10:41:33 AM »

Blame George Bush.

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« #17 : November 29, 2012, 11:30:41 AM »

Scheme


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« #18 : November 29, 2012, 11:32:58 AM »

Placing blame on one group over another or one person over another does nothing to help us or make us better.

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« #19 : November 29, 2012, 12:14:25 PM »

Time is our pass defenses biggest enemy. We have rookies on the field and rookie coaches on the sideline. Pass defense is reactive which puts our defenders a sec behind the recievers. This time next year they should have made big strides. Patience

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« #20 : November 29, 2012, 12:14:28 PM »

Sheridan/Schiano

Yeah if we just had a little better coaching us playing with the worst starting tandem of CB in the league wouldn't matter at all!

So why put them on islands 20 times a game?

You know what happens when you constantly show your blitzes pre-snap? Eli Manning, Drew Brees, Carson Palmer, Philip Rivers and Matt Ryan average 398 yards and 3 TDs a game vs you. Peyton might get that by halftime.

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« #21 : November 29, 2012, 12:34:20 PM »

I think its a combo of the scheme and the players. I think our defense is a little thin in talent at some important areas. CB and DE obviously arent doing their jobs as good as they could. Our scheme isnt putting our best players in position to make plays. Its a mix of both. If they can fix them this offseason, next season looks promising.

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« #22 : November 29, 2012, 12:40:49 PM »

It varies from game to game.  In the San Diego game, Rivers was pressured 22 times out of 41 dropbacks or 54% of the time, but WR's were getting open so early and often Rivers didn't have any problem finding them.  The DB's didn't do their job.  In the Atlanta game, Ryan was pressured 6 times out of 34 dropbacks or 18% of the time.  The DB's didn't have a chance in hell that game.


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« #23 : November 29, 2012, 01:59:09 PM »

It varies from game to game.  In the San Diego game, Rivers was pressured 22 times out of 41 dropbacks or 54% of the time, but WR's were getting open so early and often Rivers didn't have any problem finding them.  The DB's didn't do their job.  In the Atlanta game, Ryan was pressured 6 times out of 34 dropbacks or 18% of the time.  The DB's didn't have a chance in hell that game.
Nice find and agree with those numbers. We have games where the defensive line plays well and the secondary simply doesn't. And then the games were the defensive line doesn't show up - we're going to lose.

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« #24 : November 29, 2012, 07:58:41 PM »

Scheme




That is where I am right now on the question.  We have some talent on the D-line, I don't thinks its being used to its best advantage. 


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