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#690 : April 21, 2013, 09:45:02 PM

2 - johnthan banks  -  the Bucs love him in the 2nd.
3 - barrett jones  -  versatility.  starts competition at RT but can play anywhere.
4 - corey lemonier  -  speed project on the edge.
4 - william gholston  - double dip at DE.  can also backup mccoy with his size in a pinch?  might be too tall for that though.
5 - dion sims  -  double dip at MSU.  big blocker on the outside with some athleticism.
6 - ricky wagner?  tommy bohanon?  connor vernon?  ace sanders?  keith pough?  a present for bostad?  a fulltime FB?  clutch WR?  return specialist?  ST guy?
6 - dennis johnson-knile davis-kenjon barner-lonnie pryor.  pick you favorite RB.

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#691 : April 21, 2013, 11:04:58 PM

post revis:

round 2: DE damontre moore (texas A&M)

moore definitely wouldn't be my first choice, but certainly fits the bill as a BPA candidate. would immediately add to the pass rush which now stands as THE major issue currently facing this team IMO. they could also choose to further address the CB position with someone like johnthan banks, who would be a tremendous value in the 2nd, but starting calibre CB's can be had in the 3rd and later

round 3: CB logan ryan (rutgers)

perhaps a little early for ryan, but keep in mind that schiano recruited him to play in his defensive scheme and he was quite good at it. he doesn't have top-end speed, but is a fantastic man corner and a strong run defender as well. will come in and challenge wright for the #2 position (and hopefully take it :D)

round 4: RB christine michael (texas A&M)

IIRC they've brought michael to one buc for a visit and possibly view him as a candidate to back up #22. probably wouldn't take him in the 3rd, but if he slips to the 4th i think the bucs will scoop him up.

round 4: DE michael buchanan (illinois)

seriously considered making this pick another CB, especially with all the talent that should be available, however, with the acquisition of revis it means the team only needs to find one starting calibre player. if they take a CB with their 2nd or 3rd one assumes its to be a starter, and because of that i dont think another CB will be taken until later in the draft. LJ, gorrer and gaitor are all good depth, and if another player is going to be added to that group it should be a late-round pick or an UDFA. that being said, buchanan definitely has the size and speed necessary to be an interesting pass rushing option

round 5: DT bennie logan (LSU)

thought about taking someone like kawann short in the 2nd, but i really cant see them spending a high pick on a DT, especially if they're just going to play the nose or backup mccoy in the rotation. logan is a stout run defender and is quick off the snap with good lateral movement. high-motor guy that would fit in with gibson and landri
 
round 6: CB steve williams (california)

williams, along with josh johnson from purdue are two of my favorite late-round CB prospects. what williams lacks in size he makes up for with speed and tenacity. williams is an excellent open field tackler and a strong run defender. met with the team at the senior bowl

round 6: OT ricky wagner (wisconsin)
wagner would be an excellent candidate for the swing tackle position, having played both positions at wisconsin. dom bucks his trend of not drafting OL and throws bostad a bone.

UDFA
TE D.C. jefferson (rutgers)
LB philip steward (houston)
RB robbie rouse (fresno state)
WR T.J. moe (missouri)
QB nathan stanley (southeastern louisiana)
CB nigel malone (kansas state)
OC graham pocic (illinois)
: April 22, 2013, 09:19:27 AM big_JLB


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#692 : April 22, 2013, 07:16:56 AM

post revis:

round 2: DE damontre moore (texas A&M)

moore definitely wouldn't be my first choice, but certainly fits the bill as a BPA candidate. would immediately add to the pass rush which now stands as THE major issue currently facing this team IMO. they could also choose to further address the CB position with someone like johnthan banks, who would be a tremendous value in the 2nd, but starting calibre CB's can be had in the 3rd and later

round 3: CB logan ryan (rutgers)

perhaps a little early for ryan, but keep in mind that schiano recruited him to play in his defensive scheme and he was quite good at it. he doesn't have top-end speed, but is a fantastic man corner and a strong run defender as well. will come in and challenge wright for the #2 position (and hopefully take it :D)

round 4: RB christine michael (texas A&M)

IIRC they've brought michael to one buc for a visit and possibly view him as a candidate to back up #22. probably wouldn't take him in the 3rd, but if he slips to the 4th i think the bucs will scoop him up.

round 4: DE michael buchanan (illinois)

thought about making this pick another CB, especially with all the talent that should be available, however, with the acquisition of revis it means the team only needs to find one starting calibre player. if they take a CB with their 2nd or 3rd one assumes its to be a starter, and because of that i dont think another CB will be taken until later in the draft. LJ, gorrer and gaitor are all good depth, and if another player is going to be added to that group it should be a late-round pick or an UDFA. that being said, buchanan definitely has the size and speed necessary to be an interesting pass rushing option

round 5: DT bennie logan (LSU)

thought about taking someone like kawann short in the 2nd, but i really cant see them spending a high pick on a DT, especially if they're just going to play the nose or backup mccoy in the rotation. logan is a stout run defender and is quick off the snap with god lateral movement. high-motor guy that would fit in with gibson and landri
 
round 6: CB steve williams (california)

williams, along with josh johnson from purdue are two of my favorite late-round CB prospects. what williams lacks in size he makes up for with speed and tenacity. williams is an excellent open field tackler and a strong run defender. met with the team at the senior bowl

round 6: OT ricky wagner (wisconsin)
wagner would be an excellent candidate for the swing tackle position, having played both positions at wisconsin. dom bucks his trend of not drafting OL and throws bostad a bone.

UDFA
TE D.C. jefferson (rutgers)
LB philip steward (houston)
RB robbie rouse (fresno state)
WR T.J. moe (missouri)
QB nathan stanley (southeastern louisiana)
CB nigel malone (kansas state)
OC graham pocic (illinois)

Good draft . I like Damontre Moore at 43 also. I think the pick should either be him or Zack Ertz. I leaned towards Ertz because he can actually be a starter on this team , where as Damontre would be a rotational guy , but I wouldn't be upset with adding some pass rush in the least.

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#693 : April 22, 2013, 09:22:46 AM

Good draft . I like Damontre Moore at 43 also. I think the pick should either be him or Zack Ertz. I leaned towards Ertz because he can actually be a starter on this team , where as Damontre would be a rotational guy , but I wouldn't be upset with adding some pass rush in the least.

i really wanted to put a TE in there somewhere, especially with how deep this year's crop is, but after reading SR's latest fab-5 it doesn't look like the position will be addressed early


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#694 : April 22, 2013, 09:24:54 AM

I like Moore too @ 43. But they may go DT there.


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#695 : April 22, 2013, 09:59:44 AM

post revis:

round 2: DE damontre moore (texas A&M)
moore definitely wouldn't be my first choice, but certainly fits the bill as a BPA candidate. would immediately add to the pass rush which now stands as THE major issue currently facing this team IMO. they could also choose to further address the CB position with someone like johnthan banks, who would be a tremendous value in the 2nd, but starting calibre CB's can be had in the 3rd and later

round 3: CB logan ryan (rutgers)
perhaps a little early for ryan, but keep in mind that schiano recruited him to play in his defensive scheme and he was quite good at it. he doesn't have top-end speed, but is a fantastic man corner and a strong run defender as well. will come in and challenge wright for the #2 position (and hopefully take it :D)

round 4: RB christine michael (texas A&M)
IIRC they've brought michael to one buc for a visit and possibly view him as a candidate to back up #22. probably wouldn't take him in the 3rd, but if he slips to the 4th i think the bucs will scoop him up.

round 4: DE michael buchanan (illinois)
seriously considered making this pick another CB, especially with all the talent that should be available, however, with the acquisition of revis it means the team only needs to find one starting calibre player. if they take a CB with their 2nd or 3rd one assumes its to be a starter, and because of that i dont think another CB will be taken until later in the draft. LJ, gorrer and gaitor are all good depth, and if another player is going to be added to that group it should be a late-round pick or an UDFA. that being said, buchanan definitely has the size and speed necessary to be an interesting pass rushing option

round 5: DT bennie logan (LSU)
thought about taking someone like kawann short in the 2nd, but i really cant see them spending a high pick on a DT, especially if they're just going to play the nose or backup mccoy in the rotation. logan is a stout run defender and is quick off the snap with good lateral movement. high-motor guy that would fit in with gibson and landri
 
round 6: CB steve williams (california)
williams, along with josh johnson from purdue are two of my favorite late-round CB prospects. what williams lacks in size he makes up for with speed and tenacity. williams is an excellent open field tackler and a strong run defender. met with the team at the senior bowl

round 6: OT ricky wagner (wisconsin)
wagner would be an excellent candidate for the swing tackle position, having played both positions at wisconsin. dom bucks his trend of not drafting OL and throws bostad a bone.

It's gonna be important to hit on a few of those first 4 quality picks. I really like the 4 guys that you have in rounds 2-4. Addresses the need for another pass rusher with a guy who showed top 10 talent while at A&M(just hope his head is on straight). Also, adds a good CB who should learn from the best and could move Wright down the depth chart by midseason. Michael could take some of the pressure off #22 and provide a change of pace. Finally, Buchanan helps round out the depth of our DL and gives us a nice stable of pass rushers to work with. Having a high quality rotation at DE in a 4-3 is key to having success at getting after the QB. I tend to look at anyone take in the 5th round and after, are guys that may not pan out, so if we get a contributor there...then bonus...but if not, no big deal. Teams are basically flinging sh*t at the wall at that point and hoping one of those players stick.
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#696 : April 22, 2013, 10:04:26 AM

Hopefully we resign Ronde and then if we draft like this I would be very excited heading into next year...

2nd RD #43- Bjoern Werner or Kawann Short
3rd Rd #73- Blidi Wreh Wilson
4th RD #112 Montee Ball
4th RD Zaviar Gooden
5th RD Dion Sims
6th RD Landry Jones
6th RD Joseph Fauria

Also try and sneak Denard Robinson in the 7th rd at the very least for his kick returning abilities and speed. If the draft went anything like that I would be happy and pleased like to add an O Lineman for the depth perhaps instead of one of these picks but overall solid.

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#697 : April 22, 2013, 11:06:23 AM

Rd.2 Matt Barkley Q.B. USCe
Rd 2 Jesse Williams DT Alabama (trade 5th to push 3rd up)
Rd:3 Corey Lemonier LB/DE Auburn (trade 4 and 6)
Rd:3 Travis Kelce TE Cincinnati (trade 4 and 6)

that is all 4 mid round picks rather than 5th and 6th round players that don't make impact, all 4 of these could be starters on this team.

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#698 : April 22, 2013, 11:57:10 AM

Post Revis Trade Final.  Not listed in order of preference.

DL, CB, TE, ROT, LB.   Gave 3 options for day 2, +/- 10 to where the are expected to be drafted.

(although I fully expect moves up to get targeted guys)

Round 2    Kawann Short /DL (perfect match to McCoy)
Alternate      DJ Hayden/CB (Immediate NCB)
Third             Jamie Collins/LB (Blacks replacement)

Round 3   Gavin Escobar/TE (Mismatch Pass catcher)
Alternate     Jamar Taylor/CB (NCB in development)
Third            Khaseem Greene/LB (Blacks replacement - Rutgers connection)

Round 4    Cornelius Washington/DL (Prototype, Long Speed Rusher for 3rd downs, some injury concerns gets him to the 4th)
Alternate     Christine Michael/ RB (Very productive back when healthy - met with Schiano)

Round 4   Rick Wagner/OT (Never get rotation/developmental oline until the fourth unless a starting RT,  Bostad knows the guy)
Alternate     Reid Fragel   /OT (As above minus the Bostad connection.  Under the radar converted TE who has an incredibly high ceiling - needs help with footwork.)

Round 5   Dennis Johnson/RB  (Ideal returner with very good size and vision... a Schiano project.)
Alternate     Dion Sims/ TE (Very talented TE,  a faster version of Stocker with better hands, some injury concerns gets him to the 5th.)


UDFA's    Depth at OL, LB and WR/KR.

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#699 : April 22, 2013, 06:25:48 PM

New Post Revis Trade Mock:

1. Revis


2. Zach Ertz , TE , Stanford


3.  Matt Scott , QB , Arizona


4. Christine Micheal , RB , Texas A&M


4. Ace Sanders , WR/KR , South Carolina


5. Xavier Nixon , OT , Florida


6. Sanders Commings , CB , Georgia


6. Devin Taylor , DE , South Carolina


7. T.J. Barnes , DT , Georgia Tech



Final Mock ! Lock it in !

Not bad except you may be reaching for Scott in the 2nd. His footwork is worse than Freeman's. In the 6th he would be alright.

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#700 : April 22, 2013, 07:01:03 PM

New Post Revis Trade Mock:


3.  Matt Scott , QB , Arizona





Not bad except you may be reaching for Scott in the 2nd. His footwork is worse than Freeman's. In the 6th he would be alright.

I picked him in the 3rd , not the 2nd . That is when he is projected.  I didn't have him in any other mocks , but the more I read about him the more I'm intriqued by this kid . He could be a real sleeper for us. Strong Arm, good mobility , and a leader.  We need start developing this kind of player in case it becomes clear Freeman isn't the answer.

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#701 : April 22, 2013, 08:22:45 PM

New Post Revis Trade Mock:


3.  Matt Scott , QB , Arizona





Not bad except you may be reaching for Scott in the 2nd. His footwork is worse than Freeman's. In the 6th he would be alright.

I picked him in the 3rd , not the 2nd . That is when he is projected.  I didn't have him in any other mocks , but the more I read about him the more I'm intriqued by this kid . He could be a real sleeper for us. Strong Arm, good mobility , and a leader.  We need start developing this kind of player in case it becomes clear Freeman isn't the answer.

I like most of those picks but mine would be

2nd Zach Ertz- we need a reliable and complete te for freeman, we really have not had one after Kellen Winslow left us and he was very productive when he "played"
3rd Logan Ryan or Jordan Poyer-both could end up being our number 2 cb, both excel in man coverage and have good tackling and ball skills
4th MIchael Buchanon- this guy can really get after the passer and would be a much needed rotational guy while we have no real depth
4th Montee Ball- We need a solid number 2 rb that can help reduce the amount of carries Doug gets, very reliable and smart player who can also block
5th Landry Jones- While i do trust Freeman we still must have a backup plan for worst case scenario and Landry is a very underated QB in this class
6th Ricky Wagner-Very good pass blocker who could battle for the rt job and give us much needed depth
6th Lawrence Okoye- british olympian who has played rugby, very athletic and has good size 6'5 305 lbs or Terry Hawthorne- very athletic cb who also played wr, very active on the field and has great speed

UDFA- we can find a NT who can stuff the run

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#702 : April 22, 2013, 09:33:31 PM

2nd. DT Kawann Short
3rd. WR Stedman Bailey
4th. CB Tyrann Mathieu
4th.TE Micheal Williams
5th.C.Khaled Holmes
6th.OLB Alonzo Highsmith
6th. OT Xavier Nixon

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#703 : April 23, 2013, 07:21:54 AM

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3.  Matt Scott , QB , Arizona






Not bad except you may be reaching for Scott in the 2nd. His footwork is worse than Freeman's. In the 6th he would be alright.

I picked him in the 3rd , not the 2nd . That is when he is projected.  I didn't have him in any other mocks , but the more I read about him the more I'm intriqued by this kid . He could be a real sleeper for us. Strong Arm, good mobility , and a leader.  We need start developing this kind of player in case it becomes clear Freeman isn't the answer.

My bad. I liked him as well until I started looking at his feet. This whole QB class is disappointing. Colby Cameron in the 6th FTW.

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#704 : April 23, 2013, 07:30:23 AM

New Post Revis Trade Mock:


3.  Matt Scott , QB , Arizona





Not bad except you may be reaching for Scott in the 2nd. His footwork is worse than Freeman's. In the 6th he would be alright.

I picked him in the 3rd , not the 2nd . That is when he is projected.  I didn't have him in any other mocks , but the more I read about him the more I'm intriqued by this kid . He could be a real sleeper for us. Strong Arm, good mobility , and a leader.  We need start developing this kind of player in case it becomes clear Freeman isn't the answer.

I like most of those picks but mine would be

2nd Zach Ertz- we need a reliable and complete te for freeman, we really have not had one after Kellen Winslow left us and he was very productive when he "played"
3rd Logan Ryan or Jordan Poyer-both could end up being our number 2 cb, both excel in man coverage and have good tackling and ball skills
4th MIchael Buchanon- this guy can really get after the passer and would be a much needed rotational guy while we have no real depth
4th Montee Ball- We need a solid number 2 rb that can help reduce the amount of carries Doug gets, very reliable and smart player who can also block
5th Landry Jones- While i do trust Freeman we still must have a backup plan for worst case scenario and Landry is a very underated QB in this class
6th Ricky Wagner-Very good pass blocker who could battle for the rt job and give us much needed depth
6th Lawrence Okoye- british olympian who has played rugby, very athletic and has good size 6'5 305 lbs or Terry Hawthorne- very athletic cb who also played wr, very active on the field and has great speed

UDFA- we can find a NT who can stuff the run

Not bad, I could live with that.



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