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#90 : January 29, 2013, 10:25:49 AM

I show 4.55. And actually if you compare Grimm's Pro Day to Barron's Pro Day (players are notoriously faster on campus than at the Combine), Grimm is faster. 

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=75366&draftyear=2010&genpos=SS

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#91 : January 29, 2013, 10:41:46 AM

This is straight from the combine:

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/cody-grimm?id=496925


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#92 : January 29, 2013, 10:50:35 AM

I'd also reiterate that Barron was recovering from double-hernia surgery - he ran 2-months after the surgery that was expected to be an 8-week deal.

In either case, I agree that Grimm is a much better athlete than given credit for (his 3-cone was one of the best, if I recall). The issue with him coming out of college was size (maxed out at about 200lb) and position, as he played that hybrid linebacker role at VA Tech.

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#93 : January 29, 2013, 11:09:43 AM

Wasn't this the year the NFL re-analyzed all the times well after the fact and made everyone slower? There are numerous other sites that list the 4.55 or 4.54.

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/dneagles/Draft_preview_Looking_at_the_secondary_.html

http://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?f=Cody&l=Grimm&i=8505

http://walterfootball.com/draft2010S.php

http://www.draftinsider.net/reports/2010/S

http://www.draftinsider.net/blog/?p=1061

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#94 : January 29, 2013, 11:35:41 AM

I'm a really big Leonard Johnson fans, like many Bucs fans, and I do see him as a starter for us.

I think we'll bring in 2-3 new CBs.  My guess is one to two via FA and one via the first/second round (and maybe another late round guy) of the 2013 draft.

Regardless, I still think Leonard will have a significant role.

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#95 : January 29, 2013, 11:38:50 AM


 " Good teams are 7-9 to 9-7 "

No, those would very much have to be considered average teams. At 8-8, you would presumably be better than half of the other teams, and not as good as the other half. Exactly average.

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#96 : January 29, 2013, 01:20:34 PM

Wasn't this the year the NFL re-analyzed all the times well after the fact and made everyone slower? There are numerous other sites that list the 4.55 or 4.54.

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/dneagles/Draft_preview_Looking_at_the_secondary_.html

http://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?f=Cody&l=Grimm&i=8505

http://walterfootball.com/draft2010S.php

http://www.draftinsider.net/reports/2010/S

http://www.draftinsider.net/blog/?p=1061

I think that what happens is that the tv time - i.e., the time they mention during the combine coverage -  is unofficial. I'm guessing it's purely stop-watch driven. Those then get put into circulation and never change.  For example, I looked up Taylor Mays. Unofficially he supposedly ran as fast as Chris Johnson; however, officially, it was a 4.43.  NFLdraft scout has it at 4.31. PFT talks about Mays' adjustment here: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/02/safety-dance-in-april-will-be-interesting/

Also, I'm not sure that runners really run faster at the pro days anymore - not since Indy switched to Field Turf. What likely happens at pro days are variations based on wind and hand-timing.

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#97 : January 29, 2013, 01:22:54 PM

Here you go, FRG - clear as mud:

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/13682485/34988066

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#98 : January 29, 2013, 01:25:42 PM

More here - basically, "official" is a misnomer. Speed, or lack thereof, is in the eye of the beholder apparently:

http://nflcombineresults.com/no-such-thing-as-an-official-40-yard-dash-time/

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#99 : January 29, 2013, 04:32:39 PM

NFL is apparently the National Forty League.

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#100 : January 30, 2013, 12:38:35 AM

They should make the guys drink a 40 before they run one.

Maybe that would be good in NOLA as part of SB week.
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