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« : February 17, 2013, 07:53:57 PM »

Some interesting takes, a few of which differ from the draftnik consensus right now.

http://walterfootball.com/draft2013positionreviewCB.php

Position Review: Cornerbacks

Cornerback Class
Early-round talent: B
Mid-round: C+
Late-round: D
Overall grade: C+

2012 prospects vs 2013
Morris Claiborne > DeMarcus Milliner
Stephon Gilmore > Desmond Trufant
Dre Kirkpatrick < Johnthan Banks
Janoris Jenkins > Xavier Rhodes
Casey Hayward > Logan Ryan
Jamell Fleming < Blidi Wreh-Wilson
Dwight Bentley > David Amerson
Jayron Hosley > Jamar Taylor

This year's draft class features a decent group of cornerbacks, but the group is not nearly as talented as the 2012 class. Last year was an excellent time to draft a cornerback since there were cover corners and ballhawks available in the first three rounds. That isn't even close to the case this year.

Claiborne and Gilmore showed some promise as a rookie, while Janoris Jenkins and Casey Hayward made big impacts. The Rams took Jenkins in the second round, but he would've been a high first-round pick if he had stayed out of trouble in college. Thus, it is hard to compare him to any corner in either class as Jenkins is clearly better than all of them - with the possible exception of Claiborne.

The 2012 NFL Draft's cornerbacks were an A grade class, so they should dominate the comparison. The 2013 NFL Draft class is mediocre. If you were to mix the classes, Milliner and Trufant would go behind Gilmore. Banks and Kirkpatrick are pretty equal, but I give the slight edge to Banks because he has better ball skills.

Rhodes, Ryan and Wreh-Wilson are all inferior prospects compared to Hayward. I would put them in the same range as Fleming and Bentley. Amerson and Taylor would go behind Hosley.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if years from now the two best corners to come out of these two drafts are Jenkins and Hayward.

Some other prospects could be added into this cornerback review in the update after the 2013 NFL Scouting Combine. Those candidates include Utah State's Will Davis, San Diego State's Leon McFadden, Oregon State's Jordan Poyer, LSU's Tharold Simon and Illinois' Terry Hawthorne.


Safest Pick: DeMarcus Milliner, Alabama   
Milliner looks like a complete corner for the NFL with the ability to play man coverage on an island. If he somehow isn't reliable as a man corner, at the very worst, he should be a good zone corner. Milliner has size, speed, ball skills, good run defense and instincts. All of that would combine to make him a good zone cornerback if he is unable to play man. As long as Milliner stays healthy, he looks like a lock to be a starter and quality NFL cornerback for many years.

Biggest Bust Potential: David Amerson, N.C. State   
Amerson was viewed as a high first-rounder and a potential top-five pick for the 2013 NFL Draft at this time last year. What a difference a year makes; the junior was torched repeatedly for long touchdowns this season. This vulnerability first appeared in the opener against Tennessee and was an issue all year. One ESPN game announcer claimed Amerson was beaten for 10 touchdowns this season.

Amerson is a gambler who is constantly looking to jump routes to snag an interception. That left him getting burned on a lot of double moves in 2012.

Amerson is listed at 6-foot-3, 194-pounds. It wouldn't be surprising if he measures a little shorter, and that would be good, but he still could have problems with hip flexibility and turning to run with receivers. Amerson looks like he could have a lot of issues with NFL speed receivers. Amerson may go in the top three rounds, but there is definitely some real risk in selecting him. He has to go to a zone scheme.


Cornerback Rankings by Attributes


Man-Coverage Ability:
NFL prototype: Darrelle Revis, Jets
DeMarcus Milliner
Desmond Trufant
Logan Ryan
Johnthan Banks
Jamar Taylor
Blidi Wreh-Wilson
Xavier Rhodes
David Amerson


Recap: Going off the opinion of Jon Gruden, which is now a consensus thought around the league, the most important two positions on a defense are an elite pass-rusher off the edge and a shutdown cornerback. The NFL is driven by passing, and a shutdown corner can limit the opposition's ability to score points by taking the best receiver away from a quarterback. Teams throughout the league are searching hard for that kind of cornerback talent.

The two best cover corners in this draft class are Milliner and Trufant. Both of them have the ability to run with speed receivers and the size/strength combination to battle big receivers. Milliner is ranked first because he is bigger and does a better job of playing the ball. Trufant is an excellent man corner who makes it very difficult for receivers to get separation.

Rutgers played Ryan on an island all season. He held up extremely well, and his ability to remove a receiver was a huge part of the Scarlet Knights' defensive success. Banks played a mixture of man and zone at Mississippi State. He could continue to play both concepts in the NFL, but it may not be good to keep him exclusively in man coverage.

Taylor and Wreh-Wilson had strong senior seasons when playing man coverage. Both will see a big jump in competition that they have to adjust to.

Rhodes looked better in man coverage during his sophomore season than he did as a junior in 2012. He closed out 2011 by shutting down Notre Dame wide out Michael Floyd. Floyd did pretty well against Clemson's aerial attack this year, but had a number of lapses in 2012. He could play some man, but he would be better off in the NFL in a scheme that mostly plays zone.

Amerson was very weak in man coverage in 2012. He was constantly being beaten by double moves for big plays downfield. Either Amerson needs to rework his game and get more disciplined with better feet, or he will have to be a zone corner.

Zone Corner:
NFL prototype: Charles Tillman, Bears
DeMarcus Milliner
Johnthan Banks
Xavier Rhodes
Desmond Trufant
David Amerson
Blidi Wreh-Wilson
Jamar Taylor
Logan Ryan


Recap: Many teams mix man and zone coverage, so a corner who can excel in both is very valuable. Milliner did just that at Alabama. The Crimson Tide liked to vary its coverages, and Milliner was excellent while playing zone. He covers his territory, stays disciplined and understands the concepts. Milliner is also adept at disguising his coverage, thus he's ranked first again.

Banks and Rhodes are very good zone corners. Each uses his size to help cover receivers who run into his area. Both Bank and Rhodes will fit well into NFL zone schemes.

Trufant played more zone as a junior than he did as a senior. He was a solid zone corner and had no issues playing the concept. Amerson played a lot of man coverage, and his all-around game needs to become more disciplined. That will be critical for him to thrive in a zone scheme in the NFL.

None of the trio of Wreh-Wilson, Ryan or Taylor look like liabilities as zone corners. They all will need some coaching up, especially Ryan since he played mostly man coverage.


Ball Skills:
NFL prototype: Asante Samuel, Falcons
David Amerson
Johnthan Banks
DeMarcus Milliner
Logan Ryan
Jamar Taylor
Desmond Trufant
Blidi Wreh-Wilson
Xavier Rhodes


Recap: This was a tough choice because Amerson, Banks, Milliner and Ryan all have tremendous ball skills. Amerson was ranked first because he is the most adept at intercepting passes. Banks has great hands and was consistent with his ability to pick off passes the past four years. Milliner and Ryan both are extremely adept at timing their breakups to slap passes away for incompletions. All four of these corners could be ballhawks in the NFL.

Taylor showed impressive ball skills as a senior and at the Senior Bowl. He has the potential to continue to improve his ability to take the ball away. Trufant didn't get to show his ball skills much as a senior because teams rarely threw his direction, but he had a combined 16 passes defensed as a junior. Trufant's ball skills were solid At the Senior Bowl, .

Wreh-Wilson and Rhodes flash the ability to play the ball, but they need to be more consistent. They're so consumed with tight coverage; they could stand to improve their awareness to play the pass.

Run Support:
NFL prototype: Richard Sherman, Seahawks
Logan Ryan
Johnthan Banks
David Amerson
DeMarcus Milliner
Desmond Trufant
Jamar Taylor
Blidi Wreh-Wilson
Xavier Rhodes


Recap: Some college and NFL teams aren't too concerned with how corners play the run, but good run-defenders can prevent big gains on the edge and make tackles to prevent long carries. Ryan is a phenomenal run-defender and was all the over the field for Rutgers. He totaled 94 tackles as a junior and showed great awareness to get in position to make the stop. Ryan's run defense is NFL ready.

Banks (63 tackles) and Amerson (61 tackles) are both excellent run-defenders. They crash into the tackle box and are good tacklers. Both are strong and don't hesitate to mix it up. Banks and Amerson should both be quick contributors to sound run defense.

Milliner was a strong run-defender as a junior and totaled 54 tackles. He was physical with backs, but needs to get better with his tackling technique. Milliner had more missed tackles than he should have had.

Trufant had only 36 tackles as a senior, but that doesn't tell the whole story since he had 64 stops as a junior. Trufant was executing his assignments in 2012 and wasn't expected to make an impact on interior running plays.

Taylor (46), Wreh-Wilson (46) and Rhodes (39) have some room for improvement, but none of them are liabilities as run-defenders.

Agility:
NFL prototype: Nnamdi Asomugha, Eagles
Desmond Trufant
DeMarcus Milliner
Jamar Taylor
Logan Ryan
Blidi Wreh-Wilson
Johnthan Banks
Xavier Rhodes
David Amerson


Recap: The agility to run with receivers in and out of their breaks is a critical attribute of any good cover corner. Trufant is the top of the 2013 NFL Draft class. He is quick with fluid hips and doesn't take false steps. Trufant has the ability to run the route with the receiver to provide blanket coverage.

Milliner also is very agile. He can run with receivers and tight ends down the field. Milliner rarely takes false steps and has loose hips. Taylor showed nice agility at the Senior Bowl. He looked like a fluid athlete.

Ryan is an agile corner who doesn't have problems turning and running with receivers. Wreh-Wilson, on the other hand, needs to get more consistent with his agility. He looks stiff sometimes, but on other occasions, he's fluid.

Banks, Rhodes and Amerson are all bigger corners, and a lack of agility is a typical downfall for tall cornerbacks. Banks is definitely the most agile of the three. He needs to work on his technique, but with good coaching it shouldn't be a problem for him in the NFL.

The same can't be said for Rhodes and Amerson. I think they will really struggle to turn and run with speed receivers of the Mike Wallace variety. Both Rhodes and Amerson are going to need some help behind them when going against a fast receiver.

Read-and-React:
NFL prototype: Richard Sherman, Seahawks
DeMarcus Milliner
Logan Ryan
Johnthan Banks
Blidi Wreh-Wilson
Desmond Trufant
Xavier Rhodes
David Amerson
Jamar Taylor


Recap: Corners need to be able to read the offense and quickly react to the run or pass. This is especially critical to getting off the field in third-and-manageable situations. Milliner is the best read-and-react corner in this draft class. He can be source of big plays, but uses his skills to get in position to break up a lot of passes. Milliner tied with Utah State's Will Davis to lead the nation with 22 total passes broken up in 2012.

Ryan is excellent as well. He had one less pass broken up than Milliner, and Ryan also used his read-and-react skills to be a good run-defender. Banks is very good at reading the offense to get in position to make plays. He's been doing that at a high level since he broke into the lineup as a freshman in 2009.

Wreh-Wilson and Trufant both showed plus read-and-react skills at the Senior Bowl. Both definitely enter the NFL with a strong foundation. Rhodes, Amerson and Taylor all could improve their read-and-react skills. All of them sometimes seem a little delayed in their recognition.

Instincts:
NFL prototype: Darrelle Revis, Jets
Johnthan Banks
DeMarcus Milliner
Desmond Trufant
Logan Ryan
David Amerson
Xavier Rhodes
Blidi Wreh-Wilson
Jamar Taylor


Recap: I remember speaking with Ronde Barber a couple of years ago, and he said Revis' instincts were off the charts. Barber said that Revis made plays that it seemed like he had eyes in the back of his head. Barber also said Revis is so smart about reading receivers and understanding what they're about to try and do.

For cornerbacks, instincts aren't just picking off passes. Instincts also are about reading the route and the quarterback. It starts before the snap when the offense lines up.

Banks is very instinctive. He makes interceptions, gets in position to make tackles against the run and also can force some fumbles. One can tell that Banks is an experienced 5-year starter and is a pure football player.

Milliner is only a fraction behind Banks. The Alabama corner is very good at reading receivers and cornerbacks to force incompletions. Trufant is very experienced and also has a lot of starting experience. He enters the next level with plus instincts and ability to read quarterbacks.

Ryan has very good instincts as an overall run-defender. He could use a little more work on his route recognition. One might think that Amerson is rated too low considering he intercepted 18 passes over the past two seasons, but he's did a lot of gambling rather than playing disciplined football with superb instincts leading to his picks. Amerson won't be able to take so many chances in the NFL.

Rhodes has pretty good route recognition, but doesn't have the instincts to make a lot of big plays. Wreh-Wilson and Taylor don't have bad instincts, but neither of them has stood out much.

Recovery:
NFL prototype: Antonio Cromartie, Jets
Desmond Trufant
DeMarcus Milliner
Logan Ryan
Blidi Wreh-Wilson
Johnthan Banks
Xavier Rhodes
Jamar Taylor
David Amerson


Recap: The vast majority of cornerbacks in the NFL are going to allow some separation against good route-runners, but the elite corners have the ability to recover to close the space. It takes short-area burst, but having length also plays a significant factor.

In this draft class, Trufant and Milliner are excellent in recovery. They quickly close any separation and that makes it hard to complete passes against them. An instant after the receiver is open, he's covered again before the quarterback can complete the pass. Trufant's recovery at the Senior Bowl was phenomenal. Milliner's was strong all year for Alabama.

Ryan generally had good recovery as a junior in 2012. There were a few costly plays that he couldn't make it back, especially against Louisville and Virginia Tech, but overall, he has that ability. Wreh-Wilson was similar this season. He flashed some recovery skills at the Senior Bowl, but needs to continue to improve.

Banks, Rhodes and Taylor do not look like they have good recovery right now. Once a receiver gets separation, he generally maintains it. Banks, Rhodes and Taylor all have to get better at closing the ground in the NFL.

Amerson's recovery was absolutely horrible in 2012. When receivers got a step on him, he was toast. Amerson has to make massive improvements to avoid getting burned as much at the next level.


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« #1 : February 17, 2013, 10:26:38 PM »

Hmmm thought Milliner was so much better than Mo and surely you must gest, SHUTDOWN CB is more valuable than an average Safety aka Barron. Not according to Sgt Schiano and we all know what he spews is true

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« #2 : February 17, 2013, 10:33:44 PM »

Hmmm thought Milliner was so much better than Mo and surely you must gest, SHUTDOWN CB is more valuable than an average Safety aka Barron. Not according to Sgt Schiano and we all know what he spews is true

1 - who said millner was "so much better than mo"?  and 2 - let it go.  claiborne is a cowboy.

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« #3 : February 18, 2013, 12:27:26 AM »

They're very harsh on Xavier Rhodes. Just based off the tape that I've watched on him, I don't see what they're seeing. I don't see how he's a zone corner. I don't see how he's a worse tackler than Desmon Trufant either, that ranking just completely makes me discredit this analysis. Are they just listing by tackles, because it doesn't look like they've looked at any film. Trufant is a terrible tackler, and it's the only thing thing on film that stands out about him. Rhodes is physical and makes good reads in stopping the run and short pass.

Last year they said Casey Hayward was a mid round pick who would be better in a zone coverage scheme. He's definitely a better zone corner, but he made a good amount of plays in man coverage this year with the Packers.
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« #4 : February 18, 2013, 08:39:39 AM »

They're very harsh on Xavier Rhodes. Just based off the tape that I've watched on him, I don't see what they're seeing. I don't see how he's a zone corner. I don't see how he's a worse tackler than Desmon Trufant either, that ranking just completely makes me discredit this analysis. Are they just listing by tackles, because it doesn't look like they've looked at any film. Trufant is a terrible tackler, and it's the only thing thing on film that stands out about him. Rhodes is physical and makes good reads in stopping the run and short pass.

Last year they said Casey Hayward was a mid round pick who would be better in a zone coverage scheme. He's definitely a better zone corner, but he made a good amount of plays in man coverage this year with the Packers.

i dont think they know which corner on FSU is rhodes. they were probably watching 6 instead of 27. rhodes is always getting praise for his sure tackling and his run support. this is the first time ive ever seen anyone criticize his tackling skills. i watched trufant against stanford and his tackling was completely awful. go back and look at rhodes in 2010 and 2011 and you will see a corner come up and smash people in the face. watch the virginia tech game from this year and see rhodes stone a fullback. bad tackler my ass

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« #5 : February 18, 2013, 08:58:08 AM »

Whether it's at #13, #43, or somewhere in between...we will not regret the selection Xavier Rhodes.


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« #6 : February 18, 2013, 09:03:28 AM »

Whether it's at #13, #43, or somewhere in between...we will not regret the selection Xavier Rhodes.

If we somehow get rhodes at #43 i will crap my pants

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« #7 : February 18, 2013, 09:13:36 AM »

If we pick up a few CBs in FA we won't have to have to worry so much about this. We already have a very young defense and now we are going to have rookies try to cover guys in our division like Steve Smith and Julio Jones? Hopefully not! I do like Rhodes though I just  think we need seasoned guys. Weird how they rated him so low in run support. I watch a lot of FSU games and I completely disagree.
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