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: March 04, 2013, 03:56:31 PM

Being realistic I see Freeman having a better year in year 2 of the Sullivan offense. Lets say we go 11-5, make playoffs, maybe even win a game once we get there. Freeman has best year yet, similar to 2010, gets a probowl alternate slot. SO how much are we gonna have to pay him? He won't get Flacco money clearly but every time someone gets paid it does raise the bar for everyone else. Before Freeman had his slump this past season I figured we were gonna give him something like 10 years 100 million. Think he gets closer to 15 mil per year now?

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#1 : March 04, 2013, 03:58:33 PM

putting freeman in the probowl is not realistic, its extremely hopeful.

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#2 : March 04, 2013, 03:58:41 PM

Being realistic I see Freeman having a better year in year 2 of the Sullivan offense. Lets say we go 11-5, make playoffs, maybe even win a game once we get there. Freeman has best year yet, similar to 2010, gets a probowl alternate slot. SO how much are we gonna have to pay him? He won't get Flacco money clearly but every time someone gets paid it does raise the bar for everyone else. Before Freeman had his slump this past season I figured we were gonna give him something like 10 years 100 million. Think he gets closer to 15 mil per year now?

If we go 11-5, make the playoffs and Freeman makes the Probowl then I have zero problem giving him $15 mill/year.

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#3 : March 04, 2013, 03:58:58 PM

Even if we were to defy all odds and win a superbowl next year, Freeman still wouldn't have the post season pedigree Flacco has. It would only be his first time even making the playoffs.

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#4 : March 04, 2013, 04:02:12 PM

nothing.
flacco has been in the playoffs every year. Won a superbowl, had a few afc championship games and freeman has had 1 winning season and hasnt had a sniff of the playoffs. Flaccos contract isnt close to what freeman will get.

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#5 : March 04, 2013, 04:07:31 PM

It means if Freeman goes out and wins a SB next season he will be paid like Flacco. Maybe even more. If anything what happened with Flacco, it should show Freeman what is possible if he works his ass off and figures out how to get better. Because if he learns from his mistakes and gets better with those then he will be a pretty good QB. What Freeman gets is in his hands. The value was set the moment last season was over. If he wants to increase that number and wants to get that deal here with TB, he will have to get better and win some more games. Bottom line.

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#6 : March 04, 2013, 04:28:02 PM

Unless Freeman wins a Superbowl next season, not much, imo.

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#7 : March 04, 2013, 04:51:16 PM

It means that instead of being worth $4million a year he's now worth maybe $4.5million.
On one hand you have a QB with the most wins of any QB in their first 80 games, has made the playoffs every season, has won the most road playoff games EVER, made 2 championship games, had a playoff run for the ages and won a Super Bowl (while being the games MVP)
On the other hand there is Josh who has never even made the playoffs, had just one winning season and actually has fans talking about bringing in guys like Brady Quinn & Matt Cassell to challenge/push him, the guy is nearer to being Blaine Gabbert than he is Joe Flacco.

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#8 : March 04, 2013, 04:52:37 PM

Nothing until Freeman can win a superbowl.

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#9 : March 04, 2013, 05:12:00 PM

It means that instead of being worth $4million a year he's now worth maybe $4.5million.
On one hand you have a QB with the most wins of any QB in their first 80 games, has made the playoffs every season, has won the most road playoff games EVER, made 2 championship games, had a playoff run for the ages and won a Super Bowl (while being the games MVP)
On the other hand there is Josh who has never even made the playoffs, had just one winning season and actually has fans talking about bringing in guys like Brady Quinn & Matt Cassell to challenge/push him, the guy is nearer to being Blaine Gabbert than he is Joe Flacco.

The Ravens did the exact same thing with Flacco last year that the Bucs are doing with Freeman this year. They weren't confident enough to go ahead and give him an extension. He also has been inconsistent and erratic. IMO he has earned his money the last two years, but prior to that the defense carried that team and he was just along for the ride. Freeman has not had the benefit of the same system, the same HC, and a decent defense. Flacco has now been overpaid. Freeman won't be, at least not like that. I am confident he will earn much more next year than he would have asked for this year. The team and the coaching staff will do well together.

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#10 : March 04, 2013, 05:17:52 PM

If Freeman gets his completion percentage back up to 60%, he's going to get a ton of money from someone.

There\'s a very real chance the Bucs waive [Revis] before next season. At the very least, it will be a discussion worth having.

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#11 : March 04, 2013, 05:45:06 PM

If Freeman gets his completion percentage back up to 60%, he's going to get a ton of money from someone.


That's the catch. If he enters next off-season as a true unrestricted free agent, coming off a very good season, someone like Buffalo or Dallas will hand him $15 mil/yr.

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#12 : March 04, 2013, 05:47:25 PM

It means that instead of being worth $4million a year he's now worth maybe $4.5million.
On one hand you have a QB with the most wins of any QB in their first 80 games, has made the playoffs every season, has won the most road playoff games EVER, made 2 championship games, had a playoff run for the ages and won a Super Bowl (while being the games MVP)
On the other hand there is Josh who has never even made the playoffs, had just one winning season and actually has fans talking about bringing in guys like Brady Quinn & Matt Cassell to challenge/push him, the guy is nearer to being Blaine Gabbert than he is Joe Flacco.

The Ravens did the exact same thing with Flacco last year that the Bucs are doing with Freeman this year. They weren't confident enough to go ahead and give him an extension. He also has been inconsistent and erratic. IMO he has earned his money the last two years, but prior to that the defense carried that team and he was just along for the ride. Freeman has not had the benefit of the same system, the same HC, and a decent defense. Flacco has now been overpaid. Freeman won't be, at least not like that. I am confident he will earn much more next year than he would have asked for this year. The team and the coaching staff will do well together.
Slight problem with that comment, the Ravens wanted to extend him last year and he turned the deal down thinking he was worth more, having confidence in himself that he could get a better deal by "outplaying" their offer and proving he was worth what he was asking.

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#13 : March 04, 2013, 06:13:10 PM

I don't think Flacco's deal effects Freeman at all. Flacco has been to the playoffs every year, the championship game twice and won a super bowl. Freeman has....done nothing.

Dwayne Bowe's contract will have a big impact on Mike Williams though. Hope the Chiefs didn't grossly over pay....or we will have to as well.

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#14 : March 04, 2013, 07:28:52 PM

UNless Josh Freeman wins the Super Bowl this year, Flacco's contract means nothing.
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