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#15 : March 21, 2013, 06:39:46 PM

Draft Matt Scott, develop him. If Freeman does great, we have a good back up. If Freeman fails, we have a solid option going into next season.


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#16 : March 21, 2013, 07:44:11 PM

Draft Matt Scott, develop him. If Freeman does great, we have a good back up. If Freeman fails, we have a solid option going into next season.

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I like what Washington did last year with the two young QB's. The rookie can learn the offense
while Freeman shows us what he h a s got. The offense should be gelling this year.

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#17 : March 21, 2013, 09:33:43 PM

Ive been talking about Freemans footwork since forever.

Well Schiano, you are supposed to be a great coach so why hasn't he improved?

Its not indecision its poor mechanics you idiot. Now get to work and correct
it or GTFO of town....
Your full of it with that one Reapster.  If you can't see the hesitation in Josh while in the pocket, then you might as well sit this thread out.  He gets that confused impatient look that is unmistakeable.  You just know he's a millisecond from tucking the ball and bolting, or making that ill-advised throw to a guy that he's stared down and is actually covered.  It's always been what's going on in his head that's held him back.  IMO, it's also a big part of why he looks so much better while gun-slinging in the comeback attempts.  There's less processing taking place in the Bucs vertical 2 minute drill.  It's not a P Manning or T Brady type of drill, and there's not much to lose if it doesn't work out.  I hope the coaching helps him improve this year, but if it was that easy to do, there wouldn't be an issue with the number of quality NFL QB's.  Would there ?

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#18 : March 22, 2013, 09:25:22 AM

    Josh is at this point a far better passer when his feet are moving. Doesn't have to scramble, but does need to be on the move from what I've seen. Actually that's not all that unusual...

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#19 : March 22, 2013, 09:42:29 AM

"Schiano....Freeman needs to process information more quickly"


Well thank you captain obvious! Unfortunately it is extremely rare that a guy will suddenly develop this ability in year 5 of his NFL career. Being able to process information at lightning speed and then act on it is something you are born with, or you are not. When guys have it, it is visible in high school and college. Hoping Freeman suddenly acquires this attribute is like hoping at age 45 you suddenly have amazing artistic talent when none existed before. Most QBs are smart, have big arms, and are pretty accurate....but the ability to process information instantaneously and make lightning fast decisions based on that information is rare. It's what separates guys like Brady, Rodgers, and the Mannings from guys like David Carr, Tim Couch, and Rob Johnson.

It is painfully obvious that Freeman does not have this attribute, and hoping he suddenly develops it is a horrible plan. If you admit that he doesn't process information fast enough, which is what Schiano just did in this quote, then it is time to move on. Everything in between the acknowledgment that Freeman doesn't process information quickly enough, and the eventual point at which we move on...is a complete waste of everyone's time. 


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#20 : March 22, 2013, 10:44:54 AM


He said Freeman needs to process information more quickly, which is partly why he hired former Cardinals quarterbacks coach John McNulty.
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#21 : March 22, 2013, 09:04:57 PM

Ive been talking about Freemans footwork since forever.

Well Schiano, you are supposed to be a great coach so why hasn't he improved?

Its not indecision its poor mechanics you idiot. Now get to work and correct
it or GTFO of town....
Your full of it with that one Reapster.  If you can't see the hesitation in Josh while in the pocket, then you might as well sit this thread out.  He gets that confused impatient look that is unmistakeable.  You just know he's a millisecond from tucking the ball and bolting, or making that ill-advised throw to a guy that he's stared down and is actually covered.  It's always been what's going on in his head that's held him back.  IMO, it's also a big part of why he looks so much better while gun-slinging in the comeback attempts.  There's less processing taking place in the Bucs vertical 2 minute drill.  It's not a P Manning or T Brady type of drill, and there's not much to lose if it doesn't work out.  I hope the coaching helps him improve this year, but if it was that easy to do, there wouldn't be an issue with the number of quality NFL QB's.  Would there ?

Indecision and bad mechanics are two seperate issues. I'm sorry you wasted all that time typing.

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#22 : March 22, 2013, 09:09:00 PM

It is not two separate issues. His inability to process information quickly causes indecision and he loses focus which causes bad mechanics.


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#23 : March 22, 2013, 09:12:30 PM

Pumped for Freeman next year. Hope he does work like he did for a large portion of last season. Hope he also eliminates the silly games.


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#24 : March 22, 2013, 09:33:58 PM

Pumped for Freeman next year. Hope he does work like he did for a large portion of last season. Hope he also eliminates the silly games.

Unfortunately, the "silly games" were the majority of his games.   

in five "good" (or lucky) games he was 13:1
In the other eleven games he was 14:16

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#25 : March 22, 2013, 10:10:01 PM

It is not two separate issues. His inability to process information quickly causes indecision and he loses focus which causes bad mechanics.

Stick to message boards JDub. It's obvious you have never played a down of football in your life.

Good mechanics become ingrained with practice.  Maybe you should stick to the name calling after all.

It's clearly what you do best.

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#26 : March 22, 2013, 11:02:00 PM

Pumped for Freeman next year. Hope he does work like he did for a large portion of last season. Hope he also eliminates the silly games.

Unfortunately, the "silly games" were the majority of his games.   

in five "good" (or lucky) games he was 13:1
In the other eleven games he was 14:16

No they weren't man. Drop the agenda. The reality is 10 of his picks came in three games. Minus those two games where he had 4 picks a piece, he had a solid season. Unfortunately, we can subtract those terrible games. This is our guy in 2013. Sink or swim. Let us hope he swims.


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#27 : March 22, 2013, 11:03:45 PM

It is not two separate issues. His inability to process information quickly causes indecision and he loses focus which causes bad mechanics.

Stick to message boards JDub. It's obvious you have never played a down of football in your life.

Good mechanics become ingrained with practice.  Maybe you should stick to the name calling after all.

It's clearly what you do best.

Fail. Jdub is correct here. When he is playing well, mechanics look good. When things are going wrong, he reverts to his bad habits.


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#28 : March 22, 2013, 11:07:15 PM

Pumped for Freeman next year. Hope he does work like he did for a large portion of last season. Hope he also eliminates the silly games.

Unfortunately, the "silly games" were the majority of his games.   

in five "good" (or lucky) games he was 13:1
In the other eleven games he was 14:16

No they weren't man. Drop the agenda. The reality is 10 of his picks came in three games. Minus those two games where he had 4 picks a piece, he had a solid season. Unfortunately, we can subtract those terrible games. This is our guy in 2013. Sink or swim. Let us hope he swims.





Aside from all the stats, Free didn't look very comfortable in the pocket.  The getting antsy stuff,  is not a good sign.  I would like to see him large and in charge out there. Stay calm at all times, but he looks rattled most of the time.


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#29 : March 22, 2013, 11:19:02 PM

So let me get this straight last season was Josh's fault? Hmm last time I checked Josh's ego wasn't calling man to man coverage vs the Giants when we were getting beat left and right. Josh didn't fail to make halftime adjustments or in game adjustments in various other games so yeah Coach Ego can't take responsibility for his failures and blames Josh. Wow imagine that. Hey coach your .500 record is what it is so you put up or shut up.
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