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« : April 06, 2013, 01:42:45 AM »



Mind on the Money? Tampa Bay Buccaneers’ Fans Should Focus on Talent, Not Cap Space

Apr 5th, 2013 at 3:18 am

 by Ken Boehlke









 
Throughout the entire offseason there’s been a giant salary cap number for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers being flung around by every news outlet, TV channel, and website you can find. No one truly knows the number, but we’ve seen reports of anywhere from $23 million to about $28 million under the cap. In other words, the Buccaneers are not strapped for cash, and are free to do pretty much anything they want in relation to the salary cap.
 
But I’m not so sure this is something we should all be worried about. We are fans; we are not part of the front office. We are here to voice our opinions, but we aren’t the ones dolling out the cash. Sure, some of us are season ticket holders, some of us attend games, and all of us drop money on the Buccaneers.com shop like we own the place, but this is all peanuts in relation to what the organization makes.
 
The salary cap number is one many writers throw around like it’s a law. You must reach the cap. You must spend every dollar you have. It’s simply not true. The available cap space is simply a luxury. It’s like having an ace in the hole at all times.
 
Because the Bucs have millions and millions of dollars available, they are able to be in the mix for Revis. They were able to go out and grab Dashon Goldson without losing a key piece off the core of the team. They will be able to pay Freeman, and they’ll be able to make the big move next year as well.
 
I want Darrelle Revis as much as the next guy. But I don’t want him because the Buccaneers “have the money.” I want him because he’ll make the team better. I want him because the guy is a stud. I don’t give a damn what they pay him, because I’m not the one paying him.
 
The fact of the matter is, if Tampa Bay is $1 under the cap, they are fine. That number is more malleable than silly puddy, just look at what the Patriots and Steelers do every single offseason. They look like they’re in trouble, but then they restructure, restructure, and restructure someone else. Not to mention, with the new salary cap rules, part of this magical cap number is fool’s gold, and is just rolled over money from last year that will go away in a season. In other words, the money ProFootballTalk says we have isn’t the same was what is practical to spend.
 
The Buccaneers are not in a place where they have to restructure and cut players every offseason for cap reasons, and probably won’t be any time soon. They are in an enviable spot in the minds of many. They aren’t strapped by the cap. They don’t need to beg and plea with their superstars to change the ink on their contracts.
 
You and I aren’t the ones spending the money. Let the guys in charge do what they will with the cap. Let them make the financial decisions. I’m not saying stop kicking and screaming until we get Revis. Or begging for some more help along the defensive line. I just ask that we as fans focus on personnel. Ask to make the team better. Stop worrying about the money. If Dominik and friends want Revis, they’ll go get him. And they would even if they didn’t have $25+ million available.
 
Keep the minds on players, not on money. We actually can evaluate how well guys play on the field, because we get to watch every game. We get to use NFL Rewind to watch plays from the All-22 camera. We have all the tools needed to judge talent. We simply don’t have a single tool to determine how well a team is run financially. Getting players like Tom Crabtree and Steve Smith are cheap ways to get overlooked players who can develop into stars, rather than throwing money at big ticket items hoping they turn out.
 
So I ask of you, Buccaneer Nation: stop worrying about it. Worry about what we know. Get me good players, get me wins, the money will figure itself out on it’s own.

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« #1 : April 06, 2013, 07:35:55 AM »

I never understood why fans worry about money. It's not theirs, and if anyone wanted to argue that, remember, the fans gave it to them.For that money, I expect talented players to be brought in.

Right now, I'm witnessing teams nearly over cap, letting players go because they can't afford them (goldson was one), but yet.... they're winning. I wonder why!?

...oh yeah, they spend money.

The glazers have been cheap for so long, tampa doesn't even know how to spend money anymore. They look for the cheapest "out" they can find, and avoid expensive but talented players (dumervil, Allen, Abraham, etc), so they can have more "room to manuver" when the time comes to pick up a good player...but that time somehow never comes...weird, huh?

And before anyone sites vj/nicks/wright signings, remember, they had to sign some guys as far as they were under cap, or the media would've rode them all season and it would've aroused su**CENSORED**ion from the NFL higher-ups. Not to mention, the agreement going into 2016. They damn sure don't want to pay that one in one lump sum.

Naismith was right about Revis. Everyone else is a dummy.

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« #2 : April 06, 2013, 08:21:21 AM »

     When it comes to da Cap, in Dominick we trust. He's one of the best in the NFL. As far as being cheap, we are very focused on player development, meaning getting young and hard-working guys with UPSIDE, rather than over-spending on vets with little upside who coulld help SHORT-TERM, but who's best years are likely behind them. Bennett was a tough call, but I suspect the Bucs knew about his shoulder injury and figure last season was as good as it was gonna get for Michael. NFL is a tough business, but I think it was the right call...

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« #3 : April 06, 2013, 08:43:27 AM »

I never understood why fans worry about money. It's not theirs, and if anyone wanted to argue that, remember, the fans gave it to them.For that money, I expect talented players to be brought in.

Right now, I'm witnessing teams nearly over cap, letting players go because they can't afford them (goldson was one), but yet.... they're winning. I wonder why!?

...oh yeah, they spend money.

The glazers have been cheap for so long, tampa doesn't even know how to spend money anymore. They look for the cheapest "out" they can find, and avoid expensive but talented players (dumervil, Allen, Abraham, etc), so they can have more "room to manuver" when the time comes to pick up a good player...but that time somehow never comes...weird, huh?

And before anyone sites vj/nicks/wright signings, remember, they had to sign some guys as far as they were under cap, or the media would've rode them all season and it would've aroused su**CENSORED**ion from the NFL higher-ups. Not to mention, the agreement going into 2016. They damn sure don't want to pay that one in one lump sum.

It's not the money at all. It's about the ability to sign any and every player who becomes available who fits a need. Nobody was calling the Glazers cheap during the Rich McKay era. We spent money and draft picks like it was going out of style.......until we couldn't. Then we went through a period of time where we watched other teams wheel and deal while we couldn't do anything. We got Christine Simms in the third round and recycled rejects from the discard pile of every other team in the league. That's why I say invest those picks needed to get Revis in the draft. Build the team for another year and then sign him in free agency next year, IF the Bucs prove to be contenders this year, and IF Revis's knee turns out not to be a problem. Our needs next year could be very different. We might not even want him.

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« #4 : April 06, 2013, 09:03:30 AM »

I don't know many that worry about the actual money, it's cap space people are worried about.
The Glazers & Dom can hand Revis a $427 million, 2 year deal for all I care as long as they can work it SMARTLY into the cap.

Mentioning teams like the Steelers & Pats and how they adjust.massage their cap is idiotic, those teams rework OLD contracts that are too high and release highly paid old players that aren't performing anymore, plus they are in a position where they draft for depth and bring younger talent through to replace older guys as they leave.
We on the other hand have NEW contracts with young players that should in theory be here for years to come and we have little depth while also seemongly creating yet more holes to fill with limited draft picks after the Revis deal.

It's shortsighted to focus on just talent or just this season, there is a big picture, if you don't look at that you are setting yourself up for disappointment & misery.
You shouldn't be drafting for need this year, you should be drafting s there isn't a need 2 years down the line and we are a long way from being able to do that.

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« #5 : April 06, 2013, 07:59:41 PM »

So.....wait ...... we should be worried about the talent on the field and not cap space ??

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« #6 : April 06, 2013, 09:03:30 PM »

     When it comes to da Cap, in Dominick we trust. He's one of the best in the NFL.

I'm curious as to what in the world that assertion is based on.

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« #7 : April 06, 2013, 11:13:17 PM »

Apparently, there are a lot of GMs in the league that CAN'T manage their caps.

Dom appears to never have to cut players because of cap.  Luck or Skill - dude appears to have it completely under control...

So, yeah... not worried about it in the slightest.


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« #8 : April 06, 2013, 11:24:26 PM »

     When it comes to da Cap, in Dominick we trust. He's one of the best in the NFL.

Wouldn't it be better if he were one of the best at putting together a team that could win more games than they lose instead of being 24-40? Who cares what kind of contract the guy can write.

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« #9 : April 06, 2013, 11:40:40 PM »

     When it comes to da Cap, in Dominick we trust. He's one of the best in the NFL.

Wouldn't it be better if he were one of the best at putting together a team that could win more games than they lose instead of being 24-40? Who cares what kind of contract the guy can write.
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« #10 : April 07, 2013, 08:27:55 AM »

Apparently, there are a lot of GMs in the league that CAN'T manage their caps.

Dom appears to never have to cut players because of cap.  Luck or Skill - dude appears to have it completely under control...

So, yeah... not worried about it in the slightest.
That's because the team he took over was so bad it put him in a great cap position during his early years.
Once the cuts were made from the 2008 squad there wasn't much talent left on the roster, meaning not much cap used.
We are only now entering a period where we can judge his handling of the cap, a time when talented draftees are coming due for those all important 2nd contracts.
Before now it's just been a case of throw money at a player until he agrees to come to Tampa/resign and that has me worried, can he get value and build a team when he can't just overpay a guy like Goldson in order to get him?
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