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« #15 : April 30, 2013, 03:04:23 PM »

Doesn't mean he wasn't gay then, as many gay men feel the need to marry to cover it up.  However, the point still stands.  He is gay.  He has been in showers and locker rooms with other men.  Nothing bad happened because of that.  Why would he need to be in a separate shower?

Same reason there are male and female locker rooms.

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« #16 : April 30, 2013, 03:32:36 PM »

build it up just to make it a bigger issue than it should.


I feel sorry for the first poor schmuck that says anything that could even be remotely construed as critical. Jeez, can you imagine the conniption if someone was to suggest separate showers? After all we don't have co-ed showers do we? Just playing devils advocate there.


I mean...he's been gay his whole life.  He's been in showers with other men his whole life.  And shockingly, nothing happened from that and he never tried to jump anyone in the shower.  Why should there be separate showers?

No. He was engaged to a woman not too long ago.

lol - proof that there is no social stigma . ..  
« : April 30, 2013, 03:35:37 PM VinBucFan »

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« #17 : April 30, 2013, 07:40:20 PM »

build it up just to make it a bigger issue than it should.


I feel sorry for the first poor schmuck that says anything that could even be remotely construed as critical. Jeez, can you imagine the conniption if someone was to suggest separate showers? After all we don't have co-ed showers do we? Just playing devils advocate there.


I mean...he's been gay his whole life.  He's been in showers with other men his whole life.  And shockingly, nothing happened from that and he never tried to jump anyone in the shower.  Why should there be separate showers?

No. He was engaged to a woman not too long ago.

lol - proof that there is no social stigma . ..

Or he is talking out his ass (excuse the pun). He dated a chick for 7 years in this day and and now he is gay? Best case scenario would suggest he plays it both ways, in which case you have to question his motives. Plus not quite the earth shattering story it is currently being made out to be.

That, and to be honest, it is more of a bigger story within the press corp than out. Anybody REALLY care?

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« #18 : April 30, 2013, 07:54:16 PM »

build it up just to make it a bigger issue than it should.


I feel sorry for the first poor schmuck that says anything that could even be remotely construed as critical. Jeez, can you imagine the conniption if someone was to suggest separate showers? After all we don't have co-ed showers do we? Just playing devils advocate there.


I mean...he's been gay his whole life.  He's been in showers with other men his whole life.  And shockingly, nothing happened from that and he never tried to jump anyone in the shower.  Why should there be separate showers?

No. He was engaged to a woman not too long ago.

lol - proof that there is no social stigma . ..

Or he is talking out his ass (excuse the pun). He dated a chick for 7 years in this day and and now he is gay? Best case scenario would suggest he plays it both ways, in which case you have to question his motives. Plus not quite the earth shattering story it is currently being made out to be.

That, and to be honest, it is more of a bigger story within the press corp than out. Anybody REALLY care?

Ahh, I see. He isn't gay ... He just CHOSE to be gay ...he is trying to dupe us all, the discrimination he faces because of the color of his skin wasn't enough so he CHOSE to be gay ... because ...ya know ... Nobody enjoys the perks of society like a gay person in the black community!!

How about this? Some people are gay. The stigma associated with being gay leads them to try to live by normal social conventions. Sometimes they give up.

Very simple question: who would CHOOSE to be gay? In this country that means a HUGE segment of the population will always think of you as an evil sinner, another substantial portion will equate you with sexual deviants of all stripes including child molesters, you are in many places denied an store range of rights afforded to heterosexuals and in some places you might find yourself beaten to a pulp and then dragged behind a truck.

Not long ago a student at Rutgers killed himself after being "outed". You think he chose to be gay?

Just a few things to consider ...in the Land of the Free.

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« #19 : April 30, 2013, 08:09:07 PM »

So if he killed himself, are you saying that he was born to kill himself??  Or he CHOSE to?


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« #20 : April 30, 2013, 08:59:20 PM »

Some of you boys have the mentality of 10 year olds. But, I have to admit, it does make me laugh.

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« #21 : April 30, 2013, 09:16:58 PM »

So if he killed himself, are you saying that he was born to kill himself??  Or he CHOSE to?

really bad attention whore ^^^ the guy has zero style and cant even formulate a creative comment, always the low hanging fruit.


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« : April 30, 2013, 09:22:22 PM VinBucFan »

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« #22 : April 30, 2013, 09:21:02 PM »

attention whore = 34 yr. old Center who NO ONE has heard of and is looking for one last paycheck after dating a gal for 7 years


BINGO!!!





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« #23 : April 30, 2013, 09:27:18 PM »

You know, I'd like it better if people like Broussard and Brando just said "I'm homophobic and intolerant, and that's just the way I am" instead of trying to stupidly justify themselves.  They'd still be completely wrong, but I'd respect them a little more.

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« #24 : April 30, 2013, 09:40:33 PM »

"attention whore = 34 yr. old Center who NO ONE has heard of and is looking for one last paycheck after dating a gal for 7 years"


Turn off the TV you moron. Since you resent the attention he's getting then just shut the **CENSORED** up about the whole thing. Can you grasp that basic concept?

There you go, a simple solution for a simple mind.

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« #25 : April 30, 2013, 09:45:27 PM »

The primary difference between racial discrimination and sexual orientation discrimination is even the least educated among us can grasp the concept that skin color is an innate quality.  Many people believe ... for a variety of reasons ...that homosexuality is a choice.  One day the question of choice will be proven right or wrong. Until then, there will always be those that choose to think it is a choice - some might say despite obvious evidence to the contrary.

It's not really very complicated:  who would choose to be gay?

"He was told there was a party at a brick house on Osborne Place, a quiet block set on a steep hill in the Bronx. He showed up last Sunday night as instructed, with plenty of cans of malt liquor. What he walked into was not a party at all, but a night of torture — he was sodomized, burned and whipped.
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A gay man was tortured in the house, at left, at 1910 Osborne Place in the Bronx, the police said.
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One of the men arrested in the case was taken to the hospital Friday night. Officials did not reveal the nature of the emergency.
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Neighbors of the building where the police say a group attacked two teenagers and a man who had had sex with them.
All punishment, the police said Friday, for being gay.

There were nine attackers, ranging from 16 to 23 years old and calling themselves the Latin King Goonies, the police said. Before setting upon their 30-year-old victim, they had snatched up two teenage boys whom they beat, the police said — until the boys — one of whom was sodomized with a plunger — admitted to having had sex with the man.

The attackers forced the man to strip to his underwear and tied him to a chair, the police said. One of the teenage victims was still there, and the “Goonies” ordered him to attack the man. The teenager hit him in the face and burned him with a cigarette on his nipple and penis as the others jeered and shouted gay slurs, the police said. Then the attackers whipped the man with a chain and sodomized him with a small baseball bat.

The beatings and robberies went on for hours. They were followed by a remarkably thorough attempt to sanitize the house — including pouring bleach down drains, the police said, as little by little word of the attacks trickled to the police. A crucial clue to the attackers was provided by someone who slipped a note to a police officer outside the crime scene, at 1910 Osborne Place in Morris Heights, near Bronx Community College.

Seven suspects were arrested on Thursday and Friday, and two were still being sought in a crime that the leader of the City Council called among the worst hate crimes she had ever heard of. “It makes you sick,” said the Council speaker, Christine C. Quinn, the city’s highest ranking openly gay official.

The charges included abduction, unlawful imprisonment and sodomy, all as hate crimes.

“These suspects deployed terrible, wolf-pack odds of nine against one, which revealed them as predators whose crimes were as cowardly as they were de**CENSORED**able,” Police Commissioner Raymond W. Kelly said at a news conference.

The assaults are the latest in a string of recent episodes of bullying and attacks against gays. A Rutgers University student jumped to his death off the George Washington Bridge last month, prosecutors said, after his roommate had secretly set up a webcam in their room and streamed over the Internet his sexual encounter with another man.

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« #26 : April 30, 2013, 10:47:57 PM »

did this guy lead a girl on for 7 years for his own personal reasons?  sounds like a grade A jerk to me.

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« #27 : April 30, 2013, 10:49:03 PM »

"attention whore = 34 yr. old Center who NO ONE has heard of and is looking for one last paycheck after dating a gal for 7 years"


Turn off the TV you moron. Since you resent the attention he's getting then just shut the **CENSORED** up about the whole thing. Can you grasp that basic concept?

There you go, a simple solution for a simple mind.

u mad bro?


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« #28 : April 30, 2013, 10:57:45 PM »

"attention whore = 34 yr. old Center who NO ONE has heard of and is looking for one last paycheck after dating a gal for 7 years"


Turn off the TV you moron. Since you resent the attention he's getting then just shut the **CENSORED** up about the whole thing. Can you grasp that basic concept?

There you go, a simple solution for a simple mind.

u mad bro?

No, but thanks for asking.

Just some simple advice to get you through this difficult period.

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« #29 : April 30, 2013, 11:10:33 PM »

i'm not the one chucking cereal over my shoulder....

just sayin' bro  :P

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