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: May 05, 2013, 12:06:12 AM



Johnthan Banks' skills leave little room for Ronde Barber

By Sander Philipse

on May 4 2013, 1:00p




Al Messerschmidt



Johnthan Banks fits the Bucs' defense, but can he drive Ronde Barber out of Tampa?


Johnthan Banks is a tall, lanky cornerback who is at his best as a press cornerback. With 33 7/8" arms and a 6'2" body he has a tremendous wingspan that allows him to get his hands on balls that seem out of his reach, and he used that to record a ridiculous 16 career interceptions in college. He was productive, he's a phsyical run defender with great size -- and yet, he's not a top-notch cornerback prospect.

Banks is outstanding when he's on the outside, can press cornerbacks with his lengthy arms and use the sideline as an extra defender. But he tends to struggle when he's asked to move in space, when receivers have two-way options against him and he has to react in space. He doesn't have the lateral agility to keep up with dynamic players in space, which likely limits him to a role on the outside in the NFL. There's nothing wrong with that, of course. The same goes for, for instance, Richard Sherman of the Seattle Seahawks -- and he's being touted as one of the best cornerbacks in the NFL. The limitation simply means you must cater to his positives.




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This leaves little room for franchise icon Ronde Barber, however. Last season, Barber played very well as a free safety and was asked to play slot cornerback in dime packages, as well as nickel packages late in the season. But there's no room for those roles anymore. Dashon Goldson and Mark Barron are the starters at safety, and Darrelle Revis and Eric Wright are a formidable duo at cornerback. Barber's skills at cornerback have declined for years on end, and he couldn't beat out Wright barring injury.
 
That leaves Johnthan Banks standing in his way, but that represents another problem: they're entirely different players. Banks plays on the outside and doesn't really have the flexibility and lateral movement required to thrive in the slot. Meanwhile, Barber has lost much of the explosive athleticism that allowed him to make up for a lack of size on the outside. Banks will play outside and isn't in direct competition with Barber. Which leaves really only one option: Barber would have to be better as a slot cornerback than Banks is on the outside, which would lead to a lineup with Barber in the slot and Eric Wright and Darrelle Revis on the outside.

The chances of Barber returning to football this season grow slimmer with every passing day. The Buccaneers reportedly want him to return, but do they want to spend the cap space on a cornerback who would merely be competing for a nickel spot in training camp? And does Barber even want to come back for such a role?





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#1 : May 05, 2013, 01:14:08 AM

Not trying to be rude but does this guy have a clue what he is talking about?  Barber is at his best when he moves into the slot corner position or nickel corner.  That is where he does his damage blitzing.  If Banks wins the number 2 corner opposite Revis than having Barber in the slot is a heck of a lot better than having Wright in the Slot.  Yes Barber has lost a step and can no longer take on the outside corner spots but you put him in the slot with 2 good corners on the outside and our secondary is dangerous.  I personally would rather have Barber trailing the TE's out of the slot over Wright any day. 

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#2 : May 05, 2013, 01:18:47 AM

Not trying to be rude but does this guy have a clue what he is talking about?  Barber is at his best when he moves into the slot corner position or nickel corner.  That is where he does his damage blitzing.  If Banks wins the number 2 corner opposite Revis than having Barber in the slot is a heck of a lot better than having Wright in the Slot.  Yes Barber has lost a step and can no longer take on the outside corner spots but you put him in the slot with 2 good corners on the outside and our secondary is dangerous.  I personally would rather have Barber trailing the TE's out of the slot over Wright any day.




Eric would be great in the slot too, with Revis and Banks outside.    Although I think they start the season with Eric and Revis outside, unless Banks really lights it up in training camp.

I think if you keep Ronde, your taking snaps away from the young guys, like Leonard.


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#3 : May 05, 2013, 02:03:08 AM

Barber did not play "very well" at free safety.

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#4 : May 05, 2013, 03:46:57 AM

Wright's gunna be in the rotation over ronde still making 3.5 mil a year. far too much for a back up cab.

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#5 : May 05, 2013, 08:32:53 AM

It's time for Ronde to move on. He's not going to improve anything. There is plenty of veteran leadership without him. I hate seeing him leave as part of the worst defensive backfield in franchise history, but it's time. He'll make a great commentator. His interception return for a TD in the NFCC game will always rank as my most favorite play of all time.

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#6 : May 05, 2013, 08:40:36 AM

It's time for Ronde to move on. He's not going to improve anything. There is plenty of veteran leadership without him. I hate seeing him leave as part of the worst defensive backfield in franchise history, but it's time. He'll make a great commentator. His interception return for a TD in the NFCC game will always rank as my most favorite play of all time.
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#7 : May 05, 2013, 10:25:12 AM

It's time for Ronde to move on. He's not going to improve anything. There is plenty of veteran leadership without him. I hate seeing him leave as part of the worst defensive backfield in franchise history, but it's time. He'll make a great commentator. His interception return for a TD in the NFCC game will always rank as my most favorite play of all time.
agreed
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#8 : May 05, 2013, 10:34:46 AM

would hate to see end up like the Brooks situation.

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#9 : May 05, 2013, 11:16:27 AM

    Ronde is no doubt grinding on this in his own way. He'll have his chat and we'll see soon what comes down.
    Yeah, having already re-signed Wright and told him he was NOT trade bait, then drafting Banks, puts Ronde in competition with Wright for nickel CB. It's likely Banks soon starts opposite Revis. OTOH, we don't know for sure how Revis will be healthwise, or how quickly Banks will be ready to start. Bucs could ultimately cut Wright, but I doubt it... A lot of possibilities...

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#10 : May 05, 2013, 11:24:40 AM

would hate to see end up like the Brooks situation.
gotta end sometime and there really isn't a good way to do it.  But he is no longer under contract.  It's not like they would be cutting him.  Anyways, this is a business first and foremost.  Got to do what's best for the team. 


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#11 : May 05, 2013, 11:30:31 AM

In my homeristic thoughts, I think Barber should stay.

My realistic thoughts say he should retire with his head held high and legs still under him.

Either way, future Hof status awaits him after football.

Naismith was right about Revis. Everyone else is a dummy.

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#12 : May 05, 2013, 11:32:32 AM

would hate to see end up like the Brooks situation.
gotta end sometime and there really isn't a good way to do it.  But he is no longer under contract.  It's not like they would be cutting him.  Anyways, this is a business first and foremost.  Got to do what's best for the team.

Agree on all counts.    It won't go down like the Brooks thing... Schiano wouldn't allow it.

Who knew how good it would feel as a fan when we now know what it\'s like for our team to have a direction, an attitude, and dare I say an offense?.  

Good time to be a Bucs fan.

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#13 : May 05, 2013, 12:09:18 PM

Ronde is still highly effective in the slot and in spot duty. I'm hoping he comes back for one more year. This secondary could be sick.

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#14 : May 05, 2013, 12:36:46 PM

It's time for Ronde to move on. He's not going to improve anything. There is plenty of veteran leadership without him. I hate seeing him leave as part of the worst defensive backfield in franchise history, but it's time. He'll make a great commentator. His interception return for a TD in the NFCC game will always rank as my most favorite play of all time.
agreed

It pains me to agree with this statement. Ronde is the last cog in the Super Bowl Win and he will be missed. #20, #40 and #55 will live forever in my memory and in my Jersey collection. 
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