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#15 : May 18, 2013, 07:14:27 AM

I trust Brees WAAAAY more than i do Manning. Anyone that watched him last year knows that arm is not the same.

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Of the group, it's Freeman who intrigues me most. He caught fire last season, before falling to pieces. As it stands, he's a candidate to lose his job in 2013.

I'm wondering how come so many here are having difficulty coming to grips with that?

Funny, I got all kinds of grief when I mentioned that Manning doesn't look the same.  As for Josh, well, people here really struggle to look at him objectively.

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#16 : May 18, 2013, 07:44:00 AM

"Really struggle" might just be the understatement of the year.


Hell, brees might not be as accurate as manziel.

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#17 : May 18, 2013, 10:51:32 AM

As for Josh, well, people here really struggle to look at him objectively.

Just looking for consistency, or something like that, right? Like these guys!

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201210140atl.htm

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201211180atl.htm

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201209300ram.htm

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201210180sfo.htm

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201212160atl.htm

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#18 : May 18, 2013, 01:01:32 PM

Troll?

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#19 : May 18, 2013, 01:28:42 PM

Even with Mannings diminished arm stregth, He is still elite. allthough not really sure he has ever been clutch come playoff time. Even when he did win a SB, His defense carried them in playoffs

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#20 : May 18, 2013, 04:16:09 PM

How can I trust you?

 25. Josh Freeman
 26. Christian Ponder
 27. Jake Locker
 28. Nick Foles
 29. Kevin Kolb


No way is Freeman better than Ponder or Locker.

I would ask for some of what you're smoking, but I'm not into meth.

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#21 : May 18, 2013, 06:56:27 PM

Even with Mannings diminished arm stregth, He is still elite. allthough not really sure he has ever been clutch come playoff time. Even when he did win a SB, His defense carried them in playoffs

and he's never played well in the cold which is why i could not trust him come playoff time. Stated so before the season started and watched it come to fruition.

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#22 : May 18, 2013, 07:14:12 PM

As for Josh, well, people here really struggle to look at him objectively.

Just looking for consistency, or something like that, right? Like these guys!

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201210140atl.htm

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201211180atl.htm

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201209300ram.htm

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201210180sfo.htm

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201212160atl.htm


Slow your troll there a bit JC, I don't think Freeman is inconsistent at all and have stated so many times.  And your comparison is a joke even if I did.


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#23 : May 18, 2013, 07:26:38 PM

As for Josh, well, people here really struggle to look at him objectively.

Lol, criticism is objectivity but praise is not    ::)

Criticism is "objective"  . . .  .on a website where people question whether the guy is a homosexual and a drug addict, where Freeman is sometimes called the worst QB on the planet ... despite a record year . .

 C'mon man . . .  its almost silly to claim that criticism is "objective" on a website where some have claimed that Free just dropped all the weight lat year because . .  he liked soccer. .

Freeman is deserving of both criticism and praise but NEITHER are often dispensed here objectively

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#24 : May 18, 2013, 07:37:23 PM

As for Josh, well, people here really struggle to look at him objectively.

Lol, criticism is objectivity but praise is not    ::)

Criticism is "objective"  . . .  .on a website where people question whether the guy is a homosexual and a drug addict, where Freeman is sometimes called the worst QB on the planet ... despite a record year . .

 C'mon man . . .  its almost silly to claim that criticism is "objective" on a website where some have claimed that Free just dropped all the weight lat year because . .  he liked soccer. .

Freeman is deserving of both criticism and praise but NEITHER are often dispensed here objectively

 ::)

This site has gone downhill, but its still the best one out there I know of.

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#25 : May 18, 2013, 07:44:42 PM

As for Josh, well, people here really struggle to look at him objectively.

Lol, criticism is objectivity but praise is not    ::)

Criticism is "objective"  . . .  .on a website where people question whether the guy is a homosexual and a drug addict, where Freeman is sometimes called the worst QB on the planet ... despite a record year . .

 C'mon man . . .  its almost silly to claim that criticism is "objective" on a website where some have claimed that Free just dropped all the weight lat year because . .  he liked soccer. .

Freeman is deserving of both criticism and praise but NEITHER are often dispensed here objectively

 ::)

This site has gone downhill, but its still the best one out there I know of.

definitely agree. . . . but I am not sure this is a place for claiming the high ground based on "objectivity" . . . nothing wrong with that, I just think its funny because criticism is often portrayed as "honest" or "objective" when the critical  arguments one reads here are often (not always) just as over the top as the "homerism"

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#26 : May 18, 2013, 07:54:44 PM

As for Josh, well, people here really struggle to look at him objectively.

Lol, criticism is objectivity but praise is not    ::)

Criticism is "objective"  . . .  .on a website where people question whether the guy is a homosexual and a drug addict, where Freeman is sometimes called the worst QB on the planet ... despite a record year . .

 C'mon man . . .  its almost silly to claim that criticism is "objective" on a website where some have claimed that Free just dropped all the weight lat year because . .  he liked soccer. .

Freeman is deserving of both criticism and praise but NEITHER are often dispensed here objectively

 ::)

This site has gone downhill, but its still the best one out there I know of.

definitely agree. . . . but I am not sure this is a place for claiming the high ground based on "objectivity" . . . nothing wrong with that, I just think its funny because criticism is often portrayed as "honest" or "objective" when the critical  arguments one reads here are often (not always) just as over the top as the "homerism"

You think Brooks was a world class linebacker? Homer.

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RD 2) WR Kelvin Benjamin/ A. Robinson/ D. Adams/ M. Lee/
RD 3) OG D. Dozier/ C. Richardson/
RD 5) WR D. Archer/ J. Huff/ M. Davis/ TJ Jones/ R Grant
RD 6) OLB P Shembo/ R. Powell/ - DE A. Lynch/ M Sam  RD 7) G B. Thomas (injured)

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#27 : May 18, 2013, 07:56:10 PM

As for Josh, well, people here really struggle to look at him objectively.

Lol, criticism is objectivity but praise is not    ::)

Criticism is "objective"  . . .  .on a website where people question whether the guy is a homosexual and a drug addict, where Freeman is sometimes called the worst QB on the planet ... despite a record year . .

 C'mon man . . .  its almost silly to claim that criticism is "objective" on a website where some have claimed that Free just dropped all the weight lat year because . .  he liked soccer. .

Freeman is deserving of both criticism and praise but NEITHER are often dispensed here objectively

 ::)

This site has gone downhill, but its still the best one out there I know of.

definitely agree. . . . but I am not sure this is a place for claiming the high ground based on "objectivity" . . . nothing wrong with that, I just think its funny because criticism is often portrayed as "honest" or "objective" when the critical  arguments one reads here are often (not always) just as over the top as the "homerism"

You think Brooks was a world class linebacker? Homer.

lol

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#28 : May 18, 2013, 08:38:50 PM

Even with Mannings diminished arm stregth, He is still elite. allthough not really sure he has ever been clutch come playoff time. Even when he did win a SB, His defense carried them in playoffs

and he's never played well in the cold which is why i could not trust him come playoff time. Stated so before the season started and watched it come to fruition.





 I could be wrong, but I seem to recall him saying,  he still had the arm strength.  I thought he said something about his feel for the ball, as in the grip, was different. But it was slowly returning.


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#29 : May 18, 2013, 08:42:09 PM

With $20 mil at stake, i don't really expect him to be truthful. All i know is there were a lotta wounded ducks behing hurled about Mile High.

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