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#525 : June 27, 2013, 04:36:37 PM

Illegal Gun users often start their life as LEGAL GUNS babies . . .  thus . . .the more legal guns babies the more chance they become illegal gun users . . . and the more chance that  legal guns babies cause other harm and death  . .  . accidents, suicides etc.


I did not change the logical structure of your post, but merely switched 2 nouns. If it now seems absurd and illogical, it is because of the original unchanged structure of your argument.

a baby = a gun?  .. .  everyone stay away from the loaded baby!!


playing along . .  . we take many steps in society to try and keep "LEGAL babies" from becoming "illegal gun users."  Why? Because there is a real societal cost to "illegal gun users" and having a person become a "illegal gun user" is in some measure preventable, even if not ABSOLUTELY so.

applying "gun logic" we should do nothing to prevent "legal babies" from becoming "illegal gun users" because there will always be "illegal gun users" . . .


: June 27, 2013, 04:38:09 PM VinBucFan


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#526 : June 27, 2013, 05:32:08 PM

And the Counselor proves, yet again, he's incapable of any honest discussion.


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#527 : June 27, 2013, 09:10:53 PM

And the Counselor proves, yet again, he's incapable of any honest discussion.

Another post about me and not the substance.


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#528 : June 28, 2013, 09:13:10 AM

Stolen vehicles often start their life as LEGAL VEHICLES . . .  thus . . .the more legal vehicles the more chance they become illegal vehicles . . . and the more chance that  legal vehicles cause other harm and death  . .  . accidents, suicides etc

People steal vehicles for the purpose of causing harm, death, and suicides? Funny, I though they stole them to use them for the same purposes as people who legally own cars use them for. Transport.

Following the same logic, it would seem that people steal guns for the same purposes as they legally acquire them, for the purposes of having a means of inflicting lethal force and intimidation.


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#529 : June 28, 2013, 09:19:27 AM

Vince and Comrade,  sittin in a tree,  k-i-s-s-i-n-g ....

What is your point? I was wrong? Ok. You win. I was wrong.

           

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#530 : June 28, 2013, 09:21:24 AM

Stolen vehicles often start their life as LEGAL VEHICLES . . .  thus . . .the more legal vehicles the more chance they become illegal vehicles . . . and the more chance that  legal vehicles cause other harm and death  . .  . accidents, suicides etc

People steal vehicles for the purpose of causing harm, death, and suicides? Funny, I though they stole them to use them for the same purposes as people who legally own cars use them for. Transport.

Following the same logic, it would seem that people steal guns for the same purposes as they legally acquire them, for the purposes of having a means of inflicting lethal force and intimidation.

If you really believe that, then you should run and hide........

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#531 : June 28, 2013, 10:09:55 AM

Vince and Comrade,  sittin in a tree,  k-i-s-s-i-n-g ....

lol


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#532 : June 28, 2013, 10:11:56 AM

[it would seem that people steal guns for the same purposes as they legally acquire them, for the purposes of having a means of inflicting lethal force and intimidation.

If you really believe that, then you should run and hide........

you dont beleive that? What do people steal guns for then?

Btw, stolen guns are only a part of the reason people get guns illegally.  Many illegal guns are the product of straw purchases, greedy gun dealers and loopholes like private sales and gun shows


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#533 : June 28, 2013, 10:25:19 AM

[it would seem that people steal guns for the same purposes as they legally acquire them, for the purposes of having a means of inflicting lethal force and intimidation.

If you really believe that, then you should run and hide........

you dont beleive that? What do people steal guns for then?

Btw, stolen guns are only a part of the reason people get guns illegally.  Many illegal guns are the product of straw purchases, greedy gun dealers and loopholes like private sales and gun shows

He mixed stolen guns with legal purchases......read,

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#534 : June 28, 2013, 10:27:39 AM

[it would seem that people steal guns for the same purposes as they legally acquire them, for the purposes of having a means of inflicting lethal force and intimidation.

If you really believe that, then you should run and hide........

you dont beleive that? What do people steal guns for then?

Btw, stolen guns are only a part of the reason people get guns illegally.  Many illegal guns are the product of straw purchases, greedy gun dealers and loopholes like private sales and gun shows

He mixed stolen guns with legal purchases......read,

I must be missing the point, people dont legally buy guns for "the purposes of having a means of inflicting lethal force and intimidation?"  You must mean that some people legally buy guns for entertainment?


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#535 : June 28, 2013, 10:33:46 AM

[it would seem that people steal guns for the same purposes as they legally acquire them, for the purposes of having a means of inflicting lethal force and intimidation.

If you really believe that, then you should run and hide........

you dont beleive that? What do people steal guns for then?

Btw, stolen guns are only a part of the reason people get guns illegally.  Many illegal guns are the product of straw purchases, greedy gun dealers and loopholes like private sales and gun shows

He mixed stolen guns with legal purchases......read,

I must be missing the point, people dont legally buy guns for "the purposes of having a means of inflicting lethal force and intimidation?"  You must mean that some people legally buy guns for entertainment?

Yeah, some of us buy guns legally to hunt, participate in recreational sporting events, and some for home and self defense.........CBWx2 didn't say that.

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#536 : June 28, 2013, 10:39:34 AM

[it would seem that people steal guns for the same purposes as they legally acquire them, for the purposes of having a means of inflicting lethal force and intimidation.

If you really believe that, then you should run and hide........

you dont beleive that? What do people steal guns for then?

Btw, stolen guns are only a part of the reason people get guns illegally.  Many illegal guns are the product of straw purchases, greedy gun dealers and loopholes like private sales and gun shows

He mixed stolen guns with legal purchases......read,

I must be missing the point, people dont legally buy guns for "the purposes of having a means of inflicting lethal force and intimidation?"  You must mean that some people legally buy guns for entertainment?

Yeah, some of us buy guns legally to hunt, participate in recreational sporting events, and some for home and self defense.........CBWx2 didn't say that.

I see. I think CBW's comments incorporated "home and self defense," but you're right on the other stuff.


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#537 : June 28, 2013, 04:30:13 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/10/living/guns-parenting/index.html?iref=allsearch

http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/28/us/ohio-boys-shot/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/09/us/new-jersey-child-shooting/index.html

http://www.nbcnews.com/health/face-crowd-year-after-most-extensive-face-transplant-history-6C10484450

guns in the news every day
: June 28, 2013, 04:36:14 PM VinBucFan


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#538 : June 28, 2013, 09:45:27 PM

This is like Groundhog Day.  Ned Ryerson?






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#539 : June 28, 2013, 11:23:54 PM

Gov Scott signs a bill to help keep guns out of the hands of mentally ill people and there are tens of thousands of objections from gun owners across the country. lol. Even the Florida NRA rep supported the legislation, man.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/gov-rick-scott-signs-bill-to-close-loophole-in-firearm-sales-to-mentally/2129167

Oh, and somebody should tell this judge and mental health advocate he has no idea what he is talking about:

"Miami-Dade County Judge Steve Leifman, chairman of the Florida Supreme Court's Task Force on Substance Abuse and Mental Health, which supports the bill, said that its biggest impact could be in preventing suicide."

Doesn't he know that less guns does NOT equal less gun violence . . .  somebody get that Judge to the Cove for an education.

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