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#30 : June 14, 2013, 09:06:15 AM

I read somewhere, its expeccted to be Aquan Boldin type money.   

4 years  28mil

So we're gonna pay open market money for a player with a year left on his current deal (at an excellent team value)?

Paying Mike Williams Anquan Bolding money isn't open market pay. It's a deal. Mike could get more on the open market IMO. He's got 193 catches for 2731 yards 23 TDs in 3 years. That's good production.

Danny Amendola got 5yrs $31mil on the open market. Which averages out to less than Anquan Boldin money. But Amendola is nowhere near the receiver Mike is.

All very fine points.

Stop coming in here all drunk, spewing out logic. The trolls and their "logic" cannot handle it.

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#31 : June 14, 2013, 09:23:56 AM

I read somewhere, its expeccted to be Aquan Boldin type money.   

4 years  28mil

So we're gonna pay open market money for a player with a year left on his current deal (at an excellent team value)?

Paying Mike Williams Anquan Bolding money isn't open market pay. It's a deal. Mike could get more on the open market IMO. He's got 193 catches for 2731 yards 23 TDs in 3 years. That's good production.

Danny Amendola got 5yrs $31mil on the open market. Which averages out to less than Anquan Boldin money. But Amendola is nowhere near the receiver Mike is.

Smart teams pay free agents based on the production they believe they'll have on their team.  Dumb teams pay free agents based on what they accomplished on other teams.  If Danny Amendola stays healthy, and to be fair, that is a big "if", he'll probably have a season better than what Williams will have.  So in essence, the Patriots would have gotten a bargain.

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#32 : June 14, 2013, 11:00:44 AM

I read somewhere, its expeccted to be Aquan Boldin type money.   

4 years  28mil

So we're gonna pay open market money for a player with a year left on his current deal (at an excellent team value)?

Paying Mike Williams Anquan Bolding money isn't open market pay. It's a deal. Mike could get more on the open market IMO. He's got 193 catches for 2731 yards 23 TDs in 3 years. That's good production.

Danny Amendola got 5yrs $31mil on the open market. Which averages out to less than Anquan Boldin money. But Amendola is nowhere near the receiver Mike is.

Smart teams pay free agents based on the production they believe they'll have on their team.  Dumb teams pay free agents based on what they accomplished on other teams.  If Danny Amendola stays healthy, and to be fair, that is a big "if", he'll probably have a season better than what Williams will have.  So in essence, the Patriots would have gotten a bargain.
why are you a buc fans, you think every other player on other teams are better than our own, now you are sh!tinig at the mouth that danny will be better than williams. get real dude.

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#33 : June 14, 2013, 11:11:24 AM

I read somewhere, its expeccted to be Aquan Boldin type money.   

4 years  28mil

So we're gonna pay open market money for a player with a year left on his current deal (at an excellent team value)?

Paying Mike Williams Anquan Bolding money isn't open market pay. It's a deal. Mike could get more on the open market IMO. He's got 193 catches for 2731 yards 23 TDs in 3 years. That's good production.

Danny Amendola got 5yrs $31mil on the open market. Which averages out to less than Anquan Boldin money. But Amendola is nowhere near the receiver Mike is.

Smart teams pay free agents based on the production they believe they'll have on their team.  Dumb teams pay free agents based on what they accomplished on other teams.  If Danny Amendola stays healthy, and to be fair, that is a big "if", he'll probably have a season better than what Williams will have.  So in essence, the Patriots would have gotten a bargain.
why are you a buc fans, you think every other player on other teams are better than our own, now you are sh!tinig at the mouth that danny will be better than williams. get real dude.
Lol so true

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#34 : June 14, 2013, 02:06:29 PM

I read somewhere, its expeccted to be Aquan Boldin type money.   

4 years  28mil

So we're gonna pay open market money for a player with a year left on his current deal (at an excellent team value)?

Paying Mike Williams Anquan Bolding money isn't open market pay. It's a deal. Mike could get more on the open market IMO. He's got 193 catches for 2731 yards 23 TDs in 3 years. That's good production.

Danny Amendola got 5yrs $31mil on the open market. Which averages out to less than Anquan Boldin money. But Amendola is nowhere near the receiver Mike is.

Smart teams pay free agents based on the production they believe they'll have on their team.  Dumb teams pay free agents based on what they accomplished on other teams.  If Danny Amendola stays healthy, and to be fair, that is a big "if", he'll probably have a season better than what Williams will have.  So in essence, the Patriots would have gotten a bargain.
why are you a buc fans, you think every other player on other teams are better than our own, now you are sh!tinig at the mouth that danny will be better than williams. get real dude.

LOL... I'm not saying that Amendola is a better receiver.  I'm saying that Brady will make Amendola look better than what Freeman will do for Williams.  There's a very legitimate chance that Amendola has more receptions and yards this season than Williams because of Brady.

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#35 : June 14, 2013, 02:06:58 PM

I read somewhere, its expeccted to be Aquan Boldin type money.   

4 years  28mil

So we're gonna pay open market money for a player with a year left on his current deal (at an excellent team value)?

Paying Mike Williams Anquan Bolding money isn't open market pay. It's a deal. Mike could get more on the open market IMO. He's got 193 catches for 2731 yards 23 TDs in 3 years. That's good production.

Danny Amendola got 5yrs $31mil on the open market. Which averages out to less than Anquan Boldin money. But Amendola is nowhere near the receiver Mike is.

Smart teams pay free agents based on the production they believe they'll have on their team.  Dumb teams pay free agents based on what they accomplished on other teams.  If Danny Amendola stays healthy, and to be fair, that is a big "if", he'll probably have a season better than what Williams will have.  So in essence, the Patriots would have gotten a bargain.
why are you a buc fans, you think every other player on other teams are better than our own, now you are sh!tinig at the mouth that danny will be better than williams. get real dude.
Lol so true

No, you just have a reading comprehension issue.

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#36 : June 14, 2013, 02:27:29 PM

Not sure if you "PAY" a #1 WR who averages 3 TDs a year for 1/3 of his career.

Too bad we can't trade for Victor Cruz...


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#37 : June 14, 2013, 09:40:36 PM

Paying Mike Williams Anquan Bolding money isn't open market pay. It's a deal. Mike could get more on the open market IMO. He's got 193 catches for 2731 yards 23 TDs in 3 years. That's good production.

Danny Amendola got 5yrs $31mil on the open market. Which averages out to less than Anquan Boldin money. But Amendola is nowhere near the receiver Mike is.

Mike has been very productive.  He's also been in a better situation to be productive here then most young NFL receivers get.   Mike is a very valuable receiver, but he is not a game breaker.  He's not a guy who affects schemes.  He is a complementary receiver.  Teams don't plan what they're doing around Mike Williams (imo).  Still, if he were an open market free agent this season I have no doubt he could get Bolden/Amendola/Johnson (Stevie) money.  Because he is a very good 2nd (complementary) receiver.  He's not though.  He's under contract for this season for 1.5 or whatever it is, so any renegotiation he does gives him a huge value (likely a huge increase in this season's compensation).    Would he get VJax money on the open market?  Possible (with another highly productive season) but extremely unlikely imo.  Giving him 7-8 per now is the same as signing him for 9-10 as an unrestricted FA. 
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