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#30 : June 29, 2013, 09:13:29 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/28/us/snowden-lawyer-offer/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

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#31 : June 30, 2013, 11:43:54 AM

How the elites control the govt. and world affairs through the intell agencies:  http://www.projectworldawareness.com/2010/09/the-origins-of-the-overclass-by-steve-kangas-the-hardcore-evidence/


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#32 : June 30, 2013, 12:02:25 PM

Operation Mockingbird? MK Ultra? Surely this exists only in the minds of the conspiracy-mined fantasists? The next thing people will be saying is the NSA under the au**CENSORED**es of the Dept. of Defense is proof that it's the Military Industrial Complex pulling the strings via the men hidden in plain sight.

What's next? That the war on terror has been hyped to provide a never ending opponent needing continually growing funding and that the spying done by the NSA is used against the powerful to bend them to their will and agenda?

It's getting crazy all up in this place.

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#33 : June 30, 2013, 01:09:09 PM

The NSA nonsense will fuel conspiracy theories for generations. Nothing is real. Pear Harbor was an inside job, JFK was killed because he figured it out. Years later 911 was actually the government.

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#34 : June 30, 2013, 03:17:08 PM

This time it's a story about spying on our allies, and the response from Washington?

"We'll get back to you" 

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U.S. Spying On Europe: EU Confronts Washington Reports Of Spying On Allies





By Ben Deighton and Annika Breidthardt

BRUSSELS/BERLIN, June 30 (Reuters) - The European Union has demanded that the United States explain a report in a German magazine that Washington is spying on the group, using unusually strong language to confront its closest trading partner over its alleged surveillance activities.

A spokeswoman for the European Commission said on Sunday the EU contacted U.S. authorities in Washington and Brussels about a report in Der Spiegel magazine that the U.S. secret service had tapped EU offices in Washington and Brussels and at the United Nations.


"We have immediately been in contact with the U.S. authorities in Washington D.C. and in Brussels and have confronted them with the press reports," the spokeswoman said.

"They have told us they are checking on the accuracy of the information released yesterday and will come back to us," she added in a statement.

Der Spiegel reported on its website on Saturday that the National Security Agency had bugged EU offices and gained access to EU internal computer networks in the latest revelation of alleged U.S. spying that has prompted outrage from EU politicians.


The magazine followed up on Sunday with a report that the U.S. secret service taps half a billion phone calls, emails and text messages in Germany in a typical month and has classed its biggest European ally as a target similar to China.

Revelations about the alleged U.S. spying programme, which became public through documents taken by fugitive former NSA contractor Edward Snowden, have raised a furore in the United States and abroad over the balance between privacy rights and national security.

The extent to which Washington's EU allies are being monitored has emerged as an issue of particular concern.

"If the media reports are correct, this brings to memory actions among enemies during the Cold War. It goes beyond any imagination that our friends in the United States view the Europeans as enemies," said German Justice Minister Sabine Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger.

"If it is true that EU representations in Brussels and Washington were indeed tapped by the American secret service, it can hardly be explained with the argument of fighting terrorism," she said in a statement.



GERMANY TAPPED

Germans are particularly sensitive about government monitoring, having lived through the Stasi secret police in the former communist East Germany and with lingering memories of the Gestapo of Hitler's Nazi regime.

On Saturday, Martin Schulz, president of the EU Parliament and also a German, said that if the report was correct, it would have a "severe impact" on relations between the EU and the United States.

"On behalf of the European Parliament, I demand full clarification and require further information speedily from the U.S. authorities with regard to these allegations," he said in an emailed statement.

Some policymakers said talks for a free trade agreement between Washington and the EU should be put on ice until further clarification from the United States.

"Partners do not spy on each other," the European commissioner for justice and fundamental rights, Viviane Reding, said at a public event in Luxembourg on Sunday.

"We cannot negotiate over a big transatlantic market if there is the slightest doubt that our partners are carrying out spying activities on the offices of our negotiators," Reding said in comments passed on to reporters by her spokeswoman.

The European Parliament's foreign affairs committee head Elmar Brok, from Chancellor Angela Merkel's Christian Democrats. echoed those views.

"The spying has taken on dimensions that I would never have thought possible from a democratic state," he told Der Spiegel.

"How should we still negotiate if we must fear that our negotiating position is being listened to beforehand?"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/30/us-spying-on-europe_n_3525320.html

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#35 : June 30, 2013, 03:35:01 PM



No worries, Barry's got it all under control.

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#36 : June 30, 2013, 04:26:38 PM

Traitor? Give me a break.

Edward Snowden leaks force Al Qaeda, other militants to change how they communicate

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2013/06/26/edward_snowden_leaks_force_al_qaeda_other_militants_to_change_how_they_communicate.html

Travel waaayyyy back in time and take a minute to educate yourself.

Read the story linked below and then reflect on those links you've just posted, Morgan.

Consider it a primer.

http://www.carlbernstein.com/magazine_cia_and_media.php

https://twitter.com/trevortimm/status/349979401208860672


"Terrorists are so smart, we must upend the Constitution to stop them. But they're so dumb, they just learned we read their emails last week."

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#37 : June 30, 2013, 04:50:27 PM

"..........................they're so dumb, they just learned we read their emails last week."


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#38 : June 30, 2013, 07:24:45 PM

"..........................they're so dumb, they just learned we read their emails last week."

Their true target is not really terrorists.   Their target is financial traders, accountants, and financial institutions globally so they can try to control the financial markets.   

They aren't just reading emails of terrorists, they are reading yours and mine as well.   And tapping your phone listening to your conversations if they feel they can use any of your personal information for their own gain.

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#39 : June 30, 2013, 07:40:12 PM

What! They're reading mine too? Hope they don't see alll those nudie pics of Raquel Welch.

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#40 : June 30, 2013, 09:35:41 PM

Hmmm - Chris Hayes might be getting it...

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#41 : June 30, 2013, 09:53:11 PM

Hmmm - Chris Hayes might be getting it...

Yes, indeed, Dave. I hope that more people are getting it.

This is a HUGE story. Will the general public recognize that? I don't know.

We haven't even gotten to the underlying 1st amendment ramifications involved w/ this story and it may be the single biggest part of the whole thing.

At least at the moment I'm happy we're focusing on the 4th.



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#42 : June 30, 2013, 10:00:45 PM

What! They're reading mine too? Hope they don't see alll those nudie pics of Raquel Welch.

Wow did you ever just show your age with that one  ;D

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#43 : June 30, 2013, 10:04:55 PM

What! They're reading mine too? Hope they don't see alll those nudie pics of Raquel Welch.

Wow did you ever just show your age with that one  ;D


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#44 : July 01, 2013, 12:33:53 AM

What! They're reading mine too? Hope they don't see alll those nudie pics of Raquel Welch.

Wow did you ever just show your age with that one  ;D



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