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Dave Wannstedt is Unlikely Addition to Coaching Staff of Tampa Bay Bucs







NFL Veteran to Guide Special Teams for First Time in Lengthy Coaching Career

..By Jeff Briscoe | Yahoo! Sports

 Jun 30, 2013 2:24 PM EDT..

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  Though the offseason resulted in minimal changes to the coaching staff of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the hiring of veteran Dave Wannstedt as special teams coordinator caused many fans to take notice of Greg Schiano's surprising move at a typically mundane position. While head coaches undoubtedly oversee all aspects of a football operation, Bucs' supporters may wonder if this new hire is capable of supervising the unheralded drilling and tactics that often determine success on Sundays.


Wannstedt Brings Lengthy Record

Replacing the fired Bob Ligashesky in February, the 61 year-old Wannstedt brings a rare 11 years of NFL head coaching experience to the job. Possessing an 82-87 record as leader of the Chicago Bears from 1993 to 1998 and Miami Dolphins from 2000 to 2004, Wannstedt additionally guided the University of Pittsburgh from 2005 to 2010.

Despite his extensive background, including an unimpressive stint as defensive coordinator of the Buffalo Bills in 2012, Wannstedt has never coached special teams. In fact, his only direct experience occurred back in 1977, when the then graduate assistant helped with special teams for his alma mater.
 
 Yet, a close connection with the defensive-minded Wannstead obviously appeases any concerns in his new employer. Just as Schiano hired his former boss at the University of Miami, Butch Davis, as an adviser in 2012, this move provides comfort for the Bucs' second year coach by placing a one-time mentor along the Tampa Bay sidelines.
 
Indeed, Schiano earned his first job in the NFL in 1996, when hired from the college ranks to join Wannstedt's staff in Chicago as a defensive assistant. A decade later, the two men were rivals within the competitive Big East, with Schiano's Rutgers teams clashing annually with Wannstedt's Pittsburgh squads.
 

Failures in 2012
 
Sadly, the Bucs possess neither a dynamic enough offense, nor a ferocious enough defense, to overcome blunders in the kicking game. When examining the track record from Schiano's first season, it is clear that improvements are needed on special teams and those failures led to the dismissal of Ligashesky, who was the only assistant to fall after a 7-9 campaign.
 
With punter Michael Koenen amidst a lucrative 6 year, $19.5 million contract, and place-kicker Connor Barth entering the second year of a 4 year, $13.2 million deal, the Bucs seemingly place high value on special teams. Though the numbers are gaudy, both contracts can be justified by past performance, including a team record 25 consecutive field goals converted by Barth from 2011-2012.
 
Despite expectations, Koenen and Barth disappointingly posted average numbers in 2012, as Tampa Bay finished in the middle of the pack in the categories of punting distance, kickoff return average, and field goal conversion rate. With hefty contracts enjoyed by its kickers, fans rightfully expect better in these measurements.

However, Tampa Bay fared even worse on its own returns. Averaging only 20.3 yards per kickoff, the Bucs posted the NFL's third smallest kickoff return average in 2012. The club's punt returns were only slightly better, with a 9.0 average that ranked 19th of 32 teams. Even more discouraging, no touchdowns were produced by the return game and only one attempt exceeded 40 yards.
 

Transforming Special Teams
 
 As evidence by the firing of Ligashesky, Schiano recognizes the deficiency. Last year's top kickoff returner, wideout Arrelious Benn, was mercifully shipped to the Philadelphia Eagles in a pre-draft trade. Punt returners, Roscoe Parrish and Sammie Stroughter, were also not re-signed so that others can be given an opportunity to help.
 
Specifically, second year receiver Chris Owusu impressed in mini-camp and should be afforded a legitimate shot at handling returns during the preseason. The 23 year-old was a member of last season's practice squad and possesses a background in track and field. Though he battled concussions in college, Owusu returned three kickoffs for touchdowns at Stanford. Additionally, he posted a blistering 4.31 seconds in his 40 yard dash at the 2012 combine.
 
Another change to special teams that must be considered is the loss of Ronde Barber. The veteran cornerback defied norms and participated on special teams throughout his 16 year career. Once a proficient punt returner, Barber eventually became even more noted for his timely ability to block kicks or chase down elusive runners. Though his retirement will challenge the defensive backfield, Barber's absence may be just as significant on special teams.
 
Outlook for 2013

The new coordinator will be expected to transform this under-producing unit. Though not posting the stellar results that their contracts should foreshadow, I expect the Bucs' kickers to be reliable in 2013. Instead, elevated play is required from the "grunt men" who will compose the majority of Wannstedt's squad. Players like Dekoda Watson and Adam Hayward must emerge as leaders and demand more from the rest of the unit.

Perhaps that is why Schiano placed special teams in the hands of a veteran coach. Wannstedt may lack experience at his new position, but should garner respect from the young players who can impact special teams. The Bucs simply must improve blocking and tackling when toe meets leather and the stats reflect that need. Schiano believes Wannstedt's 35 year career provides a worthy basis for such improvement.
 
Reflecting a pattern of loyalty by Schiano since his hiring in January 2012, the decision to add Wannstedt is one that can be second-guessed. Special teams are easily overlooked, but they draw all eyes when sub-par, and that happened too frequently last year. The move to create a 61 year-old rookie coordinator is a bold attempt to reverse the trend and should be intriguing to follow in the coming season.
 

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#1 : July 02, 2013, 12:29:48 AM

Eh, it's ST..

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#2 : July 02, 2013, 06:48:39 AM

A couple of nits with this article 'dismissal of Ligashesky, who was the only assistant to fall after a 7-9 campaign': No. Turner was allowed to leave to take a position elsewhere as was Cooper. So in a sense, Ligashesky was the only one truely 'fired' but the statement is misleading.

Another 'Once a proficient punt returner, Barber', I honestly don't ever remember Barber returning punts. He may have done it here and there, but 'proficient', I don't think so...

Not really sure what the point of the article is other than to point out that Wanny is the new ST coach and that ST's need to improve. I think Wanny is here as the 'in-house' competition to Sheridan in case the defense doesn't play well, his job as the ST coach is simply something to do while he waits to see if he's needed to take over with the chance that with his experience and fire, he can improve the performance of the ST'ers.

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#3 : July 02, 2013, 04:21:38 PM

 Really,DW was the special team coach at Pitt for 4 yrs.

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#4 : July 02, 2013, 08:54:45 PM

Really,DW was the special team coach at Pitt for 4 yrs.



Not entirely true.  He was head coach at the time, and oversaw special teams.  So he has never exclusively been a special team coach.


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#5 : July 02, 2013, 11:16:13 PM

ST is a "want" thing.  It's all about discipline and determination.  I have no doubt Dave can get that out of players.

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#6 : July 02, 2013, 11:31:45 PM

Does anyone else get a Hollywood feel from this? Schiano hires his old bosses and nemeses to be his assistants and ends up winning the Super Bowl.

Of course Brett Favre has to come out of retirement and play the first half of the conference championship game because Freeman gets captured by Libyan terrorists. 20 minutes of the movie will be dedicated to Freeman's whacky time traveling mishap with Marty McFly and the Doc.
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RD 1) QB B. Bortles/ T. Bridgewater/ J. Manziel
RD 2) WR Kelvin Benjamin/ A. Robinson/ D. Adams/ M. Lee/
RD 3) OG D. Dozier/ C. Richardson/
RD 5) WR D. Archer/ J. Huff/ M. Davis/ TJ Jones/ R Grant
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#7 : July 02, 2013, 11:41:35 PM

Does anyone else get a Hollywood feel from this? Schiano hires his old bosses and nemeses to be his assistants and ends up winning the Super Bowl.

Of course Brett Favre has to come out of retirement and play the first half of the conference championship game because Freeman gets captured by Libyan terrorists. 20 minutes of the movie will be dedicated to Freeman's whacky time traveling mishap with Marty McFly and the Doc.

I know exactly what you are talking about.  It's got that Reds/Blues Brothers-esque smoke-filled romm "we're getting the old gang back together...you in?" kinda mojo about it.  Been thinking that since I saw this topic.
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