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Buccaneers vs. Patriots Snap Counts: Roster Bubble Comes Into Focus
 
By Sander Philipse

 Aug 18 2013, 2:55pm





Greg M. Cooper-USA TODAY Sports

The snap counts from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers game against the New England Patriots tells us quite a bit about the team's roster battles.


Starters Barely Play
 
Once again, we can't say anything meaningful on the starters. Most of them barely got into the game, with 8 snaps for the starting offense. They got 13 snaps last week. It's even sillier on defense, where Gerald McCoy has a combined 18 preseason snaps and Lavonte David has 16. No wonder the starters are getting outplayed -- they're just not having a big impact on the game, and the quality players are being subbed out after just a handful of plays, presumably to avoid injury.
 
Two interesting notes on the starting lineup, though: Daniel Te'o-Nesheim got the start over Da'Quan Bowers, although Bowers was rotated in early on and both received a similar number of snaps (29 vs 28). Mike Remmers was the other name that stood out: the offensive lineman got the start at left guard, and received 50 snaps throughout the game
 
Backups Making An Impact
 
With Chris Owusu out, a few receivers got some more snaps -- but none more so than David Douglas, who took 49 snaps, more than any other skill player. Sadly, his production lagged behind his snap count, with just 16 receiving yards. That was still more than most of his competition, though, who did very little to make an impact. The Bucs gave the bottom of their receiving corps a lot of opportunities in this game, but they just couldn't get it going.
 
At running back, of course, Mike James had a very good game. With 15 carries for 81 yards and another 3 receptions for 23 yards he outplayed Peyton Hillis. But what really stood out to me was not really his running, though that was good, but the work he got in pass protection with Brian Leonard -- and the quality job he did there. The Bucs are likely to keep just three running backs, and James' versatility on offense and on special teams (8 snaps) are likely to guarantee him a roster spot.
 
Tiquan Underwood seems to be rapidly falling behind Kevin Ogletree, but both received an equal number of snaps. Tom Crabtree got significantly more work than Luke Stocker with 21 snaps versus 11 for Stocker, but that may just be due to Stocker's recovery from an injury, who barely featured on special teams either. Danny Noble got some extensive playing time with 29 snaps, though.
 
On defensive the Bucs are clearly looking to see who stands out among the backups. Steven Means' 34 snaps topped the defensive line list, with William Gholston's 33 not far behind. Rashaan Melvin got an extended look with 30 snaps and the additional 15 special teams snaps tell me he's nearly certain to make the roster.
 
Roster Bubble

Backups with little playing time are likely to get cut. Backups with little playing time and few special teams plays are guaranteed to get cut. On defense, defensive tackle Andre Neblett, defensive end Markus White, free safety Troy Nolan and linebacker Joe Holland are not getting enough playing time to show they can stick in the NFL. They seem to be thoroughly out of any position battles they may have been in at some point.
 
On offense,  WR Terrian Crump, WR Chris Denton and G Adam Smith are getting the short end of the stick. None as much as Michael Smith, though. Remember that explosive kick return? That was one of two total plays he was in on during the game. No one who took at least one snap had fewer snaps. At this point, he's almost certain to get cut.
 
The flip side is that there are a few players who got more snaps than one would expect. Tight end/wide receiver Tim Wright is one of those players, as he received a whopping 25 snaps on offense and another 9 on special teams. He seems to be doing well in a roster battle, although he has some decent competition for his roster spot. Like WR Carlton Mitchell who got 25 snaps to prove himself, but is a non-factor on special teams, which is likely to hurt him come cut day.
 
A few other core special teams players include Steven Means, Najee Goode and Michael Adams. Those three appear to be locks for a roster spot, and Rashaan Melvin's rapidly joining that group with 30 snaps on defense and 15 on special teams. Keith Tandy isn't far behind.
 
Two players may make it as special teamers only: linebackers Jacob Cutrera and Dom Decicco both got a lot of special teams snaps but few defensive snaps to go along with it. Core special teamers usually make up the final few roster spots, and they could fill that role if necessary.
 




Name                                     Pos.                Snaps Offense
 
J Meredith                                T                                  60

M Glennon                              QB                                 53
 
G Carimi                                   T                                  52

M Remmers                             T                                   50
 
D Douglas                              WR                                49

C Wallace                                C                                   44
 
J Daniels                                  T                                  44

M James                                RB                                 38
 
R Allen                                    G                                   32
 
D Noble                                 TE                                  29

P Hillis                                   RB                                  29

D Hagan                                WR                                 27

T Larsen                                 G                                   27

T Wright                                 WR                                25
 
C Mitchell                              WR                                 25

T Underwood                        WR                                 22

K Ogletree                             WR                                22

T Crabtree                              TE                                 21
       
A Smith                                   G                                  19

 N Byham                               TE                                 14

T Crump                               WR                                 12

L Stocker                              TE                                   11
 
C Denton                             WR                                   11
 
D Dotson                                T                                    11

D Orlovsky                           QB                                     8
 
V Jackson                            WR                                    8
 
D Penn                                   T                                      8
 
J Freeman                            QB                                     8
 
J Zuttah                                  C                                      8

M Williams                           WR                                     8
 
 D Martin                              RB                                      4
 


Name                           Pos.                               Snaps Defense

A Black                            FS                                            38

S Means                           DE                                           34

C Grimm                          SS                                            33

N Goode                          LB                                             33
 
M Adams                         CB                                             33
 
W Gholston                      DE                                            33

R Melvin                          DB                                             30

K Tandy                           FS                                             29

D Te'o-Nesheim              DE                                             29

M Masifilo                       DE                                              29

D Bowers                       DE                                               28

A Spence                       DT                                               27

J Banks                          DB                                               27

L Johnson                      CB                                              26

A Hayward                     LB                                              25
 
J Casillas                       LB                                              24

L Levingston                  DB                                             23

A Gaitor                        CB                                              20

D Carr                          DB                                              19

J Cutrera                       LB                                             17

M Robinson                  DB                                             17

M Barron                      SS                                             17

G Gibson                      DT                                            17

B Smith                        DB                                            16

 A Clayborn                  DE                                            15

M Foster                       LB                                            14

D Goldson                    FS                                            14

 T Nolan                       FS                                            13

M White                       DE                                            13

J Holland                     LB                                             10

G McCoy                     DT                                            10

A Neblett                     NT                                             9

D Watson                    LB                                              8

L David                        LB                                             8

E Owusu                     DE                                             5
 
D DeCicco                  LB                                              4

K Glaud                      LB                                              1

D Dimke                      K                                               0
 
M Koenen                   P                                               0

A Economos              LS                                              0

E Page                      WR                                             0

C Henry                      P                                               0

A DePaola                 LS                                             0

M Smith                    RB                                              0
 


For the complete numbers....

http://www.bucsnation.com/2013/8/18/4633900/buccaneers-vs-patriots-snap-counts-roster-bubble-comes-into-focus/in/4391553

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#1 : August 19, 2013, 03:26:15 AM

Carimi...SMH.

He hasn't been a beacon of light out there. Man...


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#2 : August 19, 2013, 06:20:43 AM

Both James and Hillis had good games.  Wouldn't say one outplayed the other. 


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#3 : August 19, 2013, 06:30:49 AM

-Bucs RB Peyton Hillis picked up 50 of his 73 yards after contact.   Wow!  We need some H Train whistles. 


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#4 : August 19, 2013, 06:48:19 AM

Snap count should help calm the masses.

Amazing to see how many key contributors got such little burn.

Turn the page.

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#5 : August 19, 2013, 09:04:13 AM

I'd like to see the starters play for a full half in week three, but for some reason I don't think Schiano is going to go that route.

I still think there was some gamesmanship going on from Schiano...   Brady looked wonderful - against our backup LB's....  I don't think that was a mistake.

Will be a big game come week 3.   Gloves off, game planning on.    Will test Schiano's coaching ability...   looking forward to see how far we've come.

Who knew how good it would feel as a fan when we now know what it\'s like for our team to have a direction, an attitude, and dare I say an offense?.  

Good time to be a Bucs fan.

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#6 : August 19, 2013, 09:14:44 AM

Schiano is an excellent game planner. 


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#7 : August 19, 2013, 09:17:36 AM

Why hasn't Barron been playing more? What has he done to say he doesn't need the work?

FRG is the most logical poster on this board.  You guys just don\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.

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#8 : August 19, 2013, 09:18:50 AM

His floor is pro bowl.  He doesn't need the reps.


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#9 : August 19, 2013, 09:23:15 AM

Couple random thoughts...

Just realized Page didn't get any snaps...

I think he is our PR on lock down.

Looks like a they wanted to get lots of tape of the back up oline...

Who knew how good it would feel as a fan when we now know what it\'s like for our team to have a direction, an attitude, and dare I say an offense?.  

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#10 : August 19, 2013, 09:27:48 AM

Douglas played a lot better than the statline shows though, but we shall see what he does in the next two games.

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#11 : August 19, 2013, 01:46:48 PM

This is a pretty nice analysis.

I agree with ADW that Douglas showed better than the numbers.

I think James and Hillis both ran the ball well, but was truly impressed with James picking up the blitz - rookies aren't supposed to do that.

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#12 : August 19, 2013, 05:32:06 PM

Remmers simply too much of a project to consider even keeping on the active roster and I am skeptical that he is even worth developing on the PS.

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#13 : August 19, 2013, 06:05:06 PM

This is a pretty nice analysis.

I agree with ADW that Douglas showed better than the numbers.

I think James and Hillis both ran the ball well, but was truly impressed with James picking up the blitz - rookies aren't supposed to do that.

James was putrid in pass pro in game one.  Hopefully it was just jitters and game 2 is a better representation.  Even still he gave up a hit and a pressure on 9 blocking snaps in game two.  He will need to continue to improve.
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#14 : August 19, 2013, 07:22:40 PM

This is a pretty nice analysis.

I agree with ADW that Douglas showed better than the numbers.

I think James and Hillis both ran the ball well, but was truly impressed with James picking up the blitz - rookies aren't supposed to do that.

James was putrid in pass pro in game one.  Hopefully it was just jitters and game 2 is a better representation.  Even still he gave up a hit and a pressure on 9 blocking snaps in game two.  He will need to continue to improve.




Agree.  In that first game he gave up something like 4 QB pressures and gave up a sack in 5 plays. I would guess they worked with him during the week, after that performance in game one.  So, I hope to see him do it on a consistant basis.


Agree on Dougles, he had a bit of a swagger for a young guy. 


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